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Feldegast42 posted:They bring back Booreil for a mirror universe episode and when his actor can finally let his hair down he was a lot more interesting Nah, even his mirror universe counterpart was pretty bland
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Yeah, Bareil's mirror universe episode comes after they skipped doing one in S5 and just goes to highlight how the first three should have been the end of it. So, of course, they didn't learn that lesson and they did The Emperor's New Cloak as well.
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disaster pastor posted:Yeah, Bareil's mirror universe episode comes after they skipped doing one in S5 and just goes to highlight how the first three should have been the end of it. So, of course, they didn't learn that lesson and they did The Emperor's New Cloak as well. Which owned, and fully justified returning to the mirror universe again
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Mirror Bareil was like a lame Han Solo. Still, imagine if you went to an alternate universe and found out that the version of you there was Ned Flanders.
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ok maybe he wasn't that much better but he was still a breath of fresh air from the Vedek Flanders we got
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MikeJF posted:The Nebula is fine but the Melbourne itself was weird so all's well that ends well. I was mistaken, I thought he got offered Sutherland. Melbourne is Excelsior class, so blegh retracted.
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zoux posted:I was mistaken, I thought he got offered Sutherland. Melbourne is Excelsior class, so blegh retracted. I thought Melbourne was the weird Nebula variant with the mini-nacelles instead of the mission pod? Sutherland was the Nebula that Data was in temporary command of. MikeJF posted:Because he didn't want it to be like the Navy. He said that. Yeah it's this, in fact if you had gone to the Star Trek offices in 1987 and asked "how many enlisted people are on the Enterprise?" Gene would have said there are no enlisted people in Starfleet
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I woulda said "Gene you moron, people are going to be fighting about this on the internet forever"
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It wouldn't have been so much of a fight if that dillweed Ron Moore hadn't insisted on retconning O'Brien into an NCO 
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Taear posted:Makes sense it's Bareil, the man so boring nobody can remember him
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zoux posted:I woulda said "Gene you moron, people are going to be fighting about this on the internet forever" Gene's response probably would have been "And...?"
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...and Rick Berman is going to kill you if you don't kill him first.
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If there's no enlisted then who are all of the stokers down in the boiler room getting vaporized, thrown out of their hammocks, and so on like they're the rabble getting killed by Napoleon's fleet while Nelson grabs all the glory?
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I have been watching tng with my children (their first time) and we have finally reached sub rosa.
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Dysgenesis posted:I have been watching tng with my children (their first time) and we have finally reached sub rosa. I'm sure that's a fun variation on The Talk. "Sometimes, when a woman loves a candle very much..."
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nine-gear crow posted:Gene's response probably would have been "I actually invented the Internet"
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nine-gear crow posted:God, what a weird career Picard had: 22 years as captain of a never-really-had-a-prime-to-be-past-in-the-first-place shitbucket, to the CO of the flagship of Starfleet for 8 years, then had that pristine ship blown the gently caress up by a piece of poo poo Bird of Prey, then commander of a glorified garage queen ship that only really saw action three times over the span of another 8 years, then kicked upstairs to Admiral a year later, was in the job for like 3 years, had his rescue flotilla blown up by sabotage, and then immediately quit Starfleet and went back to his vineyard to pout for 14 years about it, was then re-instated as the headmaster of Starfleet Accademy, then just kind of never showed up to work except for graduation day one year to tell his foster son how proud of him he was before the kid died or some poo poo, I dunno.  after his wild academy days of seducing ladies and getting into bar brawls, trash-tier jr officer picard was kicked around the fleet, getting transferred an avg of more than once a year until he got to the stargazer and apparently found the maturity that he needed to become stiff and british
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picard was mariner before mariner
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zoux posted:Sure as a specialist but as a junior officer? he didnt want any enlisted crew because he thought it was more utopian to have only officers instead of having two social classes of crew, because of his naval experience. adding enlisted personnel was a ron d moore project, i think.
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I wonder when Gene decided that because there were absolutely enlisted personnel in TOS and the movies, they're wearing jumpsuits instead of uniforms and answer to "crewman" instead of an officer rank.
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Fighting Trousers posted:I'm sure that's a fun variation on The Talk. My kids are 13 and 10. My son who is the younger was told to avert his eyes, my daughter was like wtf? Also, maybe it's because I am now in my mid 40s but Gates McFadden is the hottest woman in all of Trek.
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Squizzle posted:he didnt want any enlisted crew because he thought it was more utopian to have only officers instead of having two social classes of crew, because of his naval experience. adding enlisted personnel was a ron d moore project, i think. Lots of yeomen walking around the USS Enterprise no bloody A, B, C, or D.
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someone dig up a scan of that document where he parenthetically describes them as actually yeowomen e: got it  bonus page: 
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Disturbingly female?
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Squizzle posted:
Squizzle posted:picard was mariner before mariner Jean-Luc Picard: Starfleet's greatest dirtbag.
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zoux posted:Disturbingly female? Which is of course completely different from "mysteriously female".
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zoux posted:Disturbingly female? Really great band name, btw
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McSpanky posted:I wonder when Gene decided that because there were absolutely enlisted personnel in TOS and the movies, they're wearing jumpsuits instead of uniforms and answer to "crewman" instead of an officer rank. oh you mean the movies where he was completely removed from creative control after the first one? the movies he/Gerrold specifically called out in the TNG writers bible as the kind of militarism they wanted to de-emphasize? though tbh i suspect he would have just said that crewman was merely the rank below ensign; my recollection is that the intent for The Cage was even more organizationally flat, with the two-stripe captain, the one-stripers, and everyone else
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Squizzle posted:
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Squizzle posted:
i think a bunch of that twelve years not on starships was the time between the stargazer and the enterprise
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:i think a bunch of that twelve years not on starships was the time between the stargazer and the enterprise I'm guessing Lt. JG John-gently caress Dickhard got sent to Starbase 80 at least once over those 12 years purely to keep him away from women.
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Timby posted:Dragnet Just logic, ma'am.
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zoux posted:I was mistaken, I thought he got offered Sutherland. Melbourne is Excelsior class, so blegh retracted. There's a odd thing with the Melbourne that is never actually resolved on screen - there's two of them at Wolf 359. The Nebula-class model in the BOBW was made as the USS Melbourne and labelled accordingly, but it's registry details are never legible in the fleet graveyard scene. Then in Emissary, they put those same registry details on the Excelsior that is prominently destroyed because they wanted to use the higher quality Excelsior model for their close up shot. So the handwave reasoning is that the Excelsior was old and the Nebula a new ship intended to replace it, that Riker was offered.
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zoux posted:Disturbingly female? A term I typically reserve for Georgia O'Keeffe paintings
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Seemlar posted:There's a odd thing with the Melbourne that is never actually resolved on screen - there's two of them at Wolf 359. Anyway here's the weird ship in question:  I assume we don't see many of them because most of them were destroyed soon after launch by an inattentive shuttle pilot ramming a baby nacelle.
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Animal-Mother posted:Just logic, ma'am. The trek you are about to see is true. The stars have been changed to protect the aliens.
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When Tom and Tuvok are caught by Sarah Silverman for raiding her lab Tom tells out "Red alert!" to get him to start running.
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Ah Sarah Silverman, so comedically female
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A.o.D. posted:If Starfleet is, as it purports to be, primarily an agency of exploration and diplomacy, it makes perfect sense that there would be room for career subject matter experts who don't have either the inclination or ability to pursue a command track. Yeees, but a Starfleet xenobiologist is a very specific thing, and making it as one for 40 years would be a definite achievement. Most federation xenobiologists are not in starfleet.
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