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He basically soft retired acting. I think this was his last film.
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CelticPredator posted:He basically soft retired acting. I think this was his last film. That was overblown apparently. He's not done, but at the time he wanted to slow down and make some changes.
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Dec 1, 2023 20:53
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He seems to be in a totally different mode in this, I really like what I'm seeing from him in the trailer
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Dec 1, 2023 21:01
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I could get being a little iffy on the CGI in the first trailer, but it looks like its shot very much like Fury Road was with very very similar production design? I really don't understand being down on this trailer. A lot of Fury Road looks like this!! It was shot in Australia so theres going to be plenty of practical stuff. Fury Road had 2000 VFX shots which is close to Attack of the Clones. Its all about how they mesh it together.
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Jewmanji posted:You’re right. Once you make a bad movie it’s literally impossible to ever make a good one again. Which bad movie did Miller make? No names are coming to mind.
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Dec 1, 2023 21:27
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Mordiceius posted:Which bad movie did Miller make? No names are coming to mind. i'm gonna be real here Beyond Thunderdome kinda sucks rear end
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Dec 1, 2023 21:29
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It's really bad. But he only half directed it so idk.
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CelticPredator posted:It's really bad. But he only half directed it so idk. yeah and like, half of it is good! but the half that is bad is real bad.
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Dec 1, 2023 21:33
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:i'm gonna be real here Beyond Thunderdome kinda sucks rear end I guess my view is if someone asserts that a director has made bad films but then the best example of a bad film is a film they made is one from 40 years prior in their career, I'm willing to the give the director the benefit of the doubt.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:yeah and like, half of it is good! but the half that is bad is real bad. Everyone only remembers master blaster bc that was the action and the part Miller directed lol I guess people remember the barter town line too
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Dec 1, 2023 21:36
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Mordiceius posted:Which bad movie did Miller make? No names are coming to mind. Any Babe 2 haters will see my boot in their face.
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Dec 1, 2023 22:10
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Furiosa will be kino, I’m sure of it.
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Mordiceius posted:I guess my view is if someone asserts that a director has made bad films but then the best example of a bad film is a film they made is one from 40 years prior in their career, I'm willing to the give the director the benefit of the doubt. thanks for reminding me that thunderdome came out 40 years ago I guess it's time for me to set up a living trust and start planning for the inevitable
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Beyond thunderdome gave us a thunderdome with the simplest rule of “two man enter, one man leave.” So as a film it’s an important cultural milestone.
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Kart Barfunkel posted:Furiosa will be kino, I’m sure of it. kino is german for movie so I think you're right
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Dec 1, 2023 22:40
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happyhippy posted:If you haven't played the game version of Mad Max, I would thoroughly recommend it. And if you find yourself being menaced by the War Boys or the Buzzards or whatever, just stand in front of a solid surface as they drive at you. They'll stop and get out of their car and it makes combat so much easier. Yahtzee mentioned it in his review, and it works like a charm.
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Dec 1, 2023 22:44
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My furiosa hot take is a lukewarm take: "it looks pretty good overall, but it doesn't look nearly as good as fury road" the only shot that's a *legit* stinker is this one where the camera whips around chris hemsworth, a digital explosion is overlaid like 1" from his face, and he doesn't flinch or move in any way 
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Dec 1, 2023 22:49
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Beyond Thunderdome rules you Philistines and the kids are great, probably the closest we'll ever get to a Riddley Walker movie
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the funniest part of Beyond Thunderdome is how hard Spielberg ripped off the parts with the kids for Hook. c'mon Steve, if you're gonna rip something off, at least rip off something good!
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For some reason Hook reminded me that I found out that Waterworld at Universal City is changing to a Fall Guy thing, mostly the same stuff but more stunts-oriented. I'm kind of upset about it. If anyone has been to Waterworld at the park it's like the best. My favorite ride. this is like losing the Matterhorn at Disney before people went nuts about it and then it was just a "refurbishment"
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Mordiceius posted:Which bad movie did Miller make? No names are coming to mind. lorenzo’s oil
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Yeah the Furiosa trailer isn’t objectively bad, but gives very much a “Fury Road at home” vibe.
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Clipperton posted:Beyond Thunderdome rules you Philistines I say "long long ago, in the before times" a lot. Also, Savannah Nix is a great character name.
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kiimo posted:For some reason Hook reminded me that I found out that Waterworld at Universal City is changing to a Fall Guy thing, mostly the same stuff but more stunts-oriented. Dang what the heck, now I’m glad I went to see it last time I was at the park.
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Beyond Thunderdome is a curious film. I marathoned all 4 movies in a day as a prelude to playing the Mad Max game (which loving owns) the next day. They all hold up, but Thunderdome is the weakest of them all. The problem is that it is weirdly bloodless. Almost nobody dies in it. Even the main henchman survives an "oh he dead" situation about seven times, when in the other films any one of those would have been the end of him. And every time he comes back and gets another go it lowers the tension further. In fact, pretty much the only death in the movie I can even remember is a kid drowning in the sandstorm which is specifically done to give a sense of stakes. Miller's producer friend had recently died so looks like he was deliberately avoiding a body count, so we got an oddly PG-13 movie from what is supposed to be an adult film for 18+. It's just so bloodless. Even in the big final car chase it's got vehicles flipping and people staggering out of the wrecks as if it was just a Smokey and the Bandit film. Max doesn't even have a car for the first hour, which is a big deal. And yet... I can't dislike this film. It's the one I've seen the most times, which is thanks to it being kid friendly in the '80s, but I have no desire to ever watch it again. But there's some really good stuff in it: Tina Turner is flawless as Auntie Entity, just perfect. We Don't Need Another Hero goes harder than a movie theme needs to, one of the best tunes of the '80s. The script is really, really tight. It's not just full of quotable lines (more than any other Mad Max film) but there's a sense of rhythm and pacing to the words that makes it a joy. Now a Mad Max film is not usually the place where you should be paying attention to the words, but in Thunderdome it is really worth paying attention to the words. I wouldn't change a thing, it's not the script that is the issue. Man, an R-rated cut of exactly the same film would be so good.
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Polo-Rican posted:My furiosa hot take is a lukewarm take: "it looks pretty good overall, but it doesn't look nearly as good as fury road" a lot just look... qustionabel. but i do think the bullet shells dropping scene also looks straight up bad.
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Woodenlung posted:a lot just look... qustionabel. but i do think the bullet shells dropping scene also looks straight up bad. Yeah it’s too clean but idc. We’re gonna love it, notice the flaws on rewatch, and still love it
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As someone who had no idea a new Mad Max movie featuring Furiosa was coming out, that trailer made me want to go see the movie. To be fair though, I have always liked the Mad Max setting and the movies, and think Fury Road was drat near a masterpiece for what it was. What I'm saying is if I saw a poster outside the theater that was text only that read "Mad Max: Furiosa coming in 2024" I would get excited to see it, so it wouldn't take much. So, the trailer was enough to make me, someone who doesn't post in the movie forums, come see what goons thoughts were on it, so I guess it did its job. With that said, thanks to everyone for some opinions on the actual trailer.
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CelticPredator posted:It was released for the public though. It wasn’t a “this trailer leaked and we have to show it now” deal. Like suicide squad. Unless someone can correct me. I know I'm a VFX guy that has literally worked on trailer shots! None of the ones I released were revisited. They always wanted to but it just never happened bc of time/budget. This conversation comes up all the time in this thread and I think most of time they're not really changed. At the very least it's the exception and not the rule. I need to start keeping track of it so we can revisit it. That mad max shot was clearly basically the plate though and not even a temp vfx shot. Cool that it was shared (and yes I actually did see the official Tron one later but don't like it compared to the audience reaction one), but I do think comic con stuff is often in a way earlier state than normal trailers. They're definitely early looks. It's probably a lot more blurred line now to be honest. I could still be locked in early aughts and teens. BonoMan fucked around with this message at 01:10 on Dec 2, 2023 |
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JazzFlight posted:Hey on twitter Hideo Kojima said he watched the trailer 10 times, so that’s good enough endorsement for me. https://x.com/hideo_kojima_en/status/1730764747908534763?s=46
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Hell, same.
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BonoMan posted:I know I'm a VFX guy that has literally worked on trailer shots! None of the ones I released were revisited. They always wanted to but it just never happened bc of time/budget. I think you have mentioned this before but I probably need to PM you and talk about the industry and where you work because I’m curious. That said I can say for sure that fast X absolutely redid shots for the film that we put in the trailer. But, the VFX on that film were a bit of a cluster gently caress admittedly
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Hell, same. 
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Off the top of my head, The Hobbit movies, the first Avatar film, and King Kong all had vfx that were drastically improved between trailers and final films. Several of the Marvel movies also had significant changes too. Most of the time its changes in compositing, typically the underlying animation and models don't shift much. Though in the case of Avatar they reworked things significantly because initial trailers had clipping errors in their animations. Here's a quickly googled comparison of changes to one of the Hobbit films. They also included changes of color grading which makes it a bit tedious to scroll through, but it starts off with a comparison for the digital dog composites. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi94JM3zkxk
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Alita, Five Nights at Freddys and Sonic. If we include changing how characters looks based on negative feedback.
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Bugblatter posted:Off the top of my head, The Hobbit movies, the first Avatar film, and King Kong all had vfx that were drastically improved between trailers and final films. Several of the Marvel movies also had significant changes too. This is an interesting video although I still would say it's an outlier. Most of the shots in there appear to be more creative changes than quality changes. In most of the comparisons the visual fidelity is still the same. And it's PJ who probably has more pull when it comes to changes. And it's trailer to blu ray not trailer to film. So that's a pretty big gulf. I'll concede that it probably happens more now than I think... But I still think it's rarer that an actual divide in quality is crossed with revisited shots. Like going from "oh poo poo that looks like temp vfx" to "totally believable".
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I wouldn’t call it temp vfx, just unfinished unpolished. Gotta start the marketing machine asap.
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Not that I think this'd be an issue with the trailer for Furiosa but we should also keep in mind that there's long been a trend of using alt takes and even scenes or characters which later get cut entirely in trailers, and the MCU has even been creating fakeout shots in trailers to hide spoilers: https://thedirect.com/article/27-mcu-trailer-moments-that-never-appear-in-marvel-studios-movies There's been several cases where people made an official complaint or even sued a studio because they felt a trailer misled them: quote:A cinemagoer who complained that an explosion seen in a trailer for recent Tom Cruise thriller Jack Reacher did not make the final cut is to get his money back. quote:Two film buffs say Universal Pictures tricked them into renting 2019 flick Yesterday because the trailer featured actor Ana de Armas.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caHnaRq8Qlg I'm hype for more Mad Max even without Mad Max in it.
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