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GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

Shaman Tank Spec posted:

It's absolutely wild to me that these guys cover their bodies in the insignia of a group of people that literally didn't even consider them human, and wanted only their violent and brutal extermination.

MaoHitler was 70% right and 30% wrong

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CommissarMega
Nov 18, 2008

THUNDERDOME LOSER
But they're the Good Ones™! The Nazis wouldn't have eaten their faces, just the people they don't like!

Shaman Tank Spec
Dec 26, 2003

*blep*



GABA ghoul posted:

MaoHitler was 70% right and 30% wrong

Uhhhhhhh dude

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

When I want to relax, I read an essay by Engels. When I want something more serious, I read Corto Maltese.

Shaman Tank Spec posted:

It's absolutely wild to me that these guys cover their bodies in the insignia of a group of people that literally didn't even consider them human, and wanted only their violent and brutal extermination.

Well, there's something you should know about the general level of intelligence re. people who are attracted to fascist ideology...

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

Errr actually they're socialist peace warriors it means peace in India

Icochet
Mar 18, 2008

I have a very small TV. Don't make fun of it! Please don't shame it like that~

Grimey Drawer
Man slams down money on the tattoo parlor counter.

-"How many swastikas does this buy?"
-"35"
-"Yes!!"

Tai
Mar 8, 2006
Christ, Putin has signed a decree yoinking St Petersburg airport. Qatar and UAE had a share in the airport after investing in it. Good job making GBS threads on future investors for Russia who probably would go back once this war is over.

What a moron

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

LMAO how are oligarchs going to get anything done without the friendship of the cash laundry princedoms aka New Switzerland

Mistle
Oct 11, 2005

Eckot's comic relief cousin from out of town
Grimey Drawer

Tai posted:



Uh oh. Speaking out against the Government that your dad shills for.

Wouldn't surprise me if her parental celebrity kept her in the closet or something of the sort.


hemale in pain posted:

Weird phrase with "even Orwell would be sick by now." as if the guy was super fashy. Like no, i think the guy who wrote 1984 would be immediately sick of fascism in any form.

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

Orwell literally fought facists in Spain so...... yeah he didnt exactly like facists at all

Maybe the turn of phrase implies something akin to "shock despite desensitization" like how even soldiers who see battlefield mutilations can get sickened by things like what happened in Bucha.

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

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Yeah, I interpreted the statement as "this is even worse than anything Orwell contemplated in 1984"

ZogrimAteMyHamster
Dec 8, 2015

hemale in pain posted:

Weird phrase with "even Orwell would be sick by now." as if the guy was super fashy. Like no, i think the guy who wrote 1984 would be immediately sick of fascism in any form.
I think it's a bad translation and/or badly-worded; I understood it as "even Orwell would think it was a bit too much (i.e. far-fetched/unbelievable) to use in 1984".

Zero VGS posted:

Does... does he have a swastika made out of other swastikas?
Dude's probably just a big fan of Wolf3D maps.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003


or early versions of DOOM:

(It was removed in later versions.)

or Zelda:

bad_fmr
Nov 28, 2007

Shaman Tank Spec posted:

It's absolutely wild to me that these guys cover their bodies in the insignia of a group of people that literally didn't even consider them human, and wanted only their violent and brutal extermination.

Most of these dudes think that the master race theory was correct, except that Hitler was wrong in thinking it is the germans instead of [insert nationality]. See Mongolian neonazis for example.

dennyk
Jan 2, 2005

Cheese-Buyer's Remorse

The_Franz posted:

or early versions of DOOM:

(It was removed in later versions.)

or Zelda:


Nah, Nazis used the right-facing swastika, not the left-facing one, even if they did completely ruin both of them for everyone else forevermore.

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
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dennyk posted:

Nah, Nazis used the right-facing swastika, not the left-facing one, even if they did completely ruin both of them for everyone else forevermore.

The DooM one probably was a Nazi reference (because the creators' previous project was about shooting lots of Nazis and the Nazi swastika showed up a lot in it), so the fact that it's the "wrong" swastika just sort of proves the point.

Tehdas
Dec 30, 2012
Prolly doesn't apply to the videogame example, but a logo designer in a YouTube video once said:
"You'd work really hard on a logo, then show it to a coworker for feedback, and they'd be like, 'yep, looks like a swastika', and right back to the drawing board you go"

Toxic Mental
Jun 1, 2019

Remember when people said "Always be on the side of the people fighting against the Nazis" and meant to like Ukraine were the Nazis in the situation lol

Jasper Tin Neck
Nov 14, 2008


"Scientifically proven, rich and creamy."

Shaman Tank Spec posted:

It's absolutely wild to me that these guys cover their bodies in the insignia of a group of people that literally didn't even consider them human, and wanted only their violent and brutal extermination.
Some even sign up despite having enough Jewish ancestry to have moved to Israel.

I suspect the Soviet depiction of Nazis as primarily the enemies of the Soviet Union has gone a long way to rob "nazi" of any kind of coherent meaning beyond "dangerous adversary" in Russia.

Kchama
Jul 25, 2007

The_Franz posted:

or early versions of DOOM:

(It was removed in later versions.)

or Zelda:


The Manji isn't typically associated with Nazis and are pretty commonly found in Asian things because it has a completely different connotation there. Hence being in Zelda 1.

appropriatemetaphor
Jan 26, 2006

Kchama posted:

The Manji isn't typically associated with Nazis and are pretty commonly found in Asian things because it has a completely different connotation there. Hence being in Zelda 1.

Also just looks like the nature of the level designer. If you don't want a door you can't have the rooms touch.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

appropriatemetaphor posted:

Also just looks like the nature of the level designer. If you don't want a door you can't have the rooms touch.

balls work the same way

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
Thats why my house looks like a swastika too.

Uh wait.

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006

Coolguye posted:

balls work the same way

my russophobia is stored in my balls

Darth Brooks
Jan 15, 2005

I do not wear this mask to protect me. I wear it to protect you from me.

Shaman Tank Spec posted:

It's absolutely wild to me that these guys cover their bodies in the insignia of a group of people that literally didn't even consider them human, and wanted only their violent and brutal extermination.

Ilse Koch's grave rumbles at the opportunity to turn one of these guys into a lampshade.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
I haven't been following for a while for my own mental well-being but I'm trying to catch up again. Is this correct:

Bakhmut is still ongoing. Despite this Ukraine and Russia are also doing a similar stalemate fight at Adiivka which has been going on for a few months now with no sign of ending. Ukraine is appealing for more ammunition and guns from supporting countries but supplies aren't coming as fast as they used to. Both Russia and Ukraine are taking horrendous losses and still putting more and more men into the fight. The summer offensive petered out and now it's back to trenches and mass guns and drones.

Is that about right?

tiaz
Jul 1, 2004

PICK UP THAT PRESENT.


Zelensky's Zealots

Arc Hammer posted:

I haven't been following for a while for my own mental well-being but I'm trying to catch up again. Is this correct:

Bakhmut is still ongoing. Despite this Ukraine and Russia are also doing a similar stalemate fight at Adiivka which has been going on for a few months now with no sign of ending. Ukraine is appealing for more ammunition and guns from supporting countries but supplies aren't coming as fast as they used to. Both Russia and Ukraine are taking horrendous losses and still putting more and more men into the fight. The summer offensive petered out and now it's back to trenches and mass guns and drones.

Is that about right?

Broadly, yeah. I wouldn't say "still ongoing" because they're not really fighting in the city anymore, and I'm sure there are cities they would want to retake before Bakhmut given the choice - I'm not trying to be picky about wording, I just want to be clear about what I'm agreeing with. Similarly I think "ran out of time" might be more accurate than "petered out", but whatever. Russia's recent losses are shockingly bad - routinely 1000+ men a day, for the past six weeks or something equally horrifying. Doubtlessly Ukraine is also experiencing casualties, but far fewer since they're not doing "meat assaults" into prepared positions.

Arguably, said meat assaults speak to desperation, but I have no real basis with which to push the needle either way. There is also developing news of a Ukrainian foothold on the left bank at Kherson. As far as I know they're not charging across undefended fields in the Russian-occupied back line at this point, but Russia has also proved unable to dislodge them so far, so maybe that will turn into something.

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

When I want to relax, I read an essay by Engels. When I want something more serious, I read Corto Maltese.

Jasper Tin Neck posted:

I suspect the Soviet depiction of Nazis as primarily the enemies of the Soviet Union has gone a long way to rob "nazi" of any kind of coherent meaning beyond "dangerous adversary" in Russia.

See also socialist/communist/woke to a certain, unfortunately loud, group of people in the US.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

mobby_6kl posted:

Thats why my house looks like a swastika too.

Uh wait.

The floor plan or like, upright?

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

3D Megadoodoo posted:

The floor plan or like, upright?


Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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https://abcnews.go.com/International/horticultural-hate-mystery-forest-swastikas/story?id=19588288

zone
Dec 6, 2016

https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/status/1731287150438633757#m
50 more pieces of self propelled artillery, maybe more, are on the way.

Haystack
Jan 23, 2005





zone posted:

https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/status/1731287150438633757#m
50 more pieces of self propelled artillery, maybe more, are on the way.

Tastes like Krab 🎶 shoots at people 🎶

CommissarMega
Nov 18, 2008

THUNDERDOME LOSER
When they said that everything naturally evolves towards crab, it also takes into account the crab's insistence on eliminating all other rivals :black101:

Toxic Mental
Jun 1, 2019

Haystack posted:

Tastes like Krab 🎶 shoots at people 🎶

lol nice

Pot Smoke Phoenix
Aug 15, 2007



Smoke 'em if you gottem!
Dinosaur Gum
The carcinization of war was inevitable

Pennsylvanian
May 23, 2010

Hetman Bohdan Khmelnytsky Independent Presidential Regiment
Western Liberal Democracy or Death!
Giant friendly Krab.

AtomikKrab
Jul 17, 2010

Keep on GOP rolling rolling rolling rolling.

Pennsylvanian posted:

Giant friendly Krab.

Let it hit the Russian weakpoints for massive damage.

Bashez
Jul 19, 2004

:10bux:

Arc Hammer posted:

I haven't been following for a while for my own mental well-being but I'm trying to catch up again. Is this correct:

Bakhmut is still ongoing. Despite this Ukraine and Russia are also doing a similar stalemate fight at Adiivka which has been going on for a few months now with no sign of ending. Ukraine is appealing for more ammunition and guns from supporting countries but supplies aren't coming as fast as they used to. Both Russia and Ukraine are taking horrendous losses and still putting more and more men into the fight. The summer offensive petered out and now it's back to trenches and mass guns and drones.

Is that about right?

Russia has turned Ukraine back from some of their recent gains in Bakhmut and is threatening to push out and into the rear of Ukraine's foiled attempt to pass Bakhmut in the south. Russia is slowly advancing in Avdiivka with ridiculous losses. They have the initiative across the entire front line and are making tiny gains in several locations. The only place where things look okay currently for Ukraine is Krynky, their river crossing, and that can swing wildly.

Across the board Russia is taking some of the highest sustained losses of the war. I think Ukraine's best hope currently is that political reasoning pushes Russia past exhaustion in an attempt to score a concrete victory for the election.

Jasper Tin Neck
Nov 14, 2008


"Scientifically proven, rich and creamy."

Perun published a new video discussing war exhaustion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIKiFAKMoi0

Highlights:
  • Ukrainian willingness to fight remains high, but the leadership will need to pay attention to public sentiment regarding conscription rules and troop rotation.
  • Russian morale is significantly more fragile. The urban majority seems willing to go along with the war as long as they and their relatives aren't ending up in the line of fire. This has led to Russia rummaging the back country and prisons for those willing to put their bodies in uniform in exchange for cash and benefits.
  • European commitment to Ukraine is generally high but vulnerable to rent-seekers like Orbán.
  • America doesn't really lose wars so much as it loses interest in wars. America losing interest in supporting Ukraine is probably the strongest play Russia has left in the playbook and it seems they're banking on it.

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ChubbyChecker
Mar 25, 2018

Jasper Tin Neck posted:

Some even sign up despite having enough Jewish ancestry to have moved to Israel.

I suspect the Soviet depiction of Nazis as primarily the enemies of the Soviet Union has gone a long way to rob "nazi" of any kind of coherent meaning beyond "dangerous adversary" in Russia.

even orwell already complained about the word 'fascist' had lost its meaning

“The word Fascism has now no meaning except in so far as it signifies "something not desirable"...In the case of a word like democracy, not only is there no agreed definition, but the attempt to make one is resisted from all sides. It is almost universally felt that when we call a country democratic we are praising it: consequently the defenders of every kind of regime claim that it is a democracy, and fear that they might have to stop using the word if it were tied down to any one meaning.”

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