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fuctifino posted:
Sorry about your mum (I think?!?), and definitely sorry about you getting screwed over. But why 8% specifically? Like why not just gently caress you over down to zero?
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Dec 3, 2023 20:14
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OwlFancier posted:I'm glad to have you back, fuctifino, I was wondering if you'd just given up on the forum in disgust. Ta. I've been lurking. I was given a 30 dayer shortly after the ban, (and after the other probations for the same thing), and that ran out an hour ago. I'm still wondering if I'll be hit with another probe for it NotJustANumber99 posted:Sorry about your mum (I think?!?), and definitely sorry about you getting screwed over. But why 8% specifically? Like why not just gently caress you over down to zero? If she'd totally disinherited me, then I could have probably easily found a no-win no-fee lawyer to take it on for 50% of what I'd almost definitely win, which could have been 50% or 33% of the estate. There are added protections for disabled children in probate. I'm going to see if I can shove that money into a trust and spend it on care or medicine or something, but it'll be ages before I get any of the money so I have time to research it. fuctifino fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Dec 3, 2023 |
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Dec 3, 2023 20:19
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I don't think I could inherit from my dead mum like essentially 90% while my brother gets the leftovers and not just gently caress that off and re divvy up the money.
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Dec 3, 2023 20:30
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Guavanaut posted:Sprouts have recently been rebred to lose the bitter taste and taste more like broccoli and kohlrabi and other green stem vegetables, so that may be them as well as you. Well it didn't loving work did it? They need to try again. OwlFancier posted:I think honestly he could lose just about everyone as long as he's still perceived as less bad than the tories in whatever way people want to define "bad" Not with that attitude! You have to believe in yourself, and more importantly, in Sinn Fein!
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Dec 3, 2023 20:34
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There are a bunch of things that don't count toward the savings limit bullshit, you just need to find them or get an accountant who knows. I don't think Vanguard accounts count (because they're not savings, they're ✨iNvEsTmEnTs✨), and it would give you a bit of a passive income.
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Dec 3, 2023 20:34
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NotJustANumber99 posted:I don't think I could inherit from my dead mum like essentially 90% while my brother gets the leftovers and not just gently caress that off and re divvy up the money. I explained to the brother in the phone call that him and his son were both working in good jobs, and this was the only chunk of money that I would ever get in my lifetime, bar winning the lottery. I also highlighted that mum is completely disrespecting Dad's wishes etc. etc. "We have already taken legal advice, and we are going to honour mum's wishes [to continue to inflict her abuse on you after her death]" I also don't get any of my stuff. There are photos, videos of school performances, vinyl, tapes and CDs of music I played on from 30+ years ago, as well as a box or two of stuff from my school and college days in the attic. There's a good chance they'll be binned out of malice. Families are loving weird. I envy people who come from functional families. fuctifino fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Dec 3, 2023 |
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Dec 3, 2023 20:35
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Relatives are just random people you get stuck with for a long time, no reason they have to be nice people.
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Dec 3, 2023 20:36
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Do you have your dad's wishes recorded anywhere? That might be grounds to contest the will if you do.
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Dec 3, 2023 20:37
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Families now compete with each other instead of cooperating. I mean, not all of them, and it is something that always existed, but as a general trend of capitalism yeah.
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Dec 3, 2023 20:38
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Atomisation
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Dec 3, 2023 20:39
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Ehhh, I'm not sure I would call historical familial organizations exactly harmonious when half the members were legally property.
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Dec 3, 2023 20:41
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fuctifino posted:My sentence is up! It's cause they consider America Bad to be an acceptable substitute for principles, hth
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Dec 3, 2023 20:41
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From what I understand the laws around inheritance are very different in France where they dictate fair shares between siblings. Certainly with property. I might be totally wrong, but that's where my parents live now and it's what they said. Although I wasn't really listening.
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Dec 3, 2023 20:44
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OwlFancier posted:Ehhh, I'm not sure I would call historical familial organizations exactly harmonious when half the members were legally property. That came about because of agriculture. Along with less nutrition resulting in shorter humans, and a complete loss of leisure and freedom, not to mention the invention of land as private property
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Dec 3, 2023 20:44
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Do you have your dad's wishes recorded anywhere? That might be grounds to contest the will if you do. They would have been recorded in old wills, but the chances of those surviving anywhere would be slim, and there would be no way for me to access them. The nephew has been named as executor. Outside of those wills, Dad told me his wishes in phone calls. There are also other things, like he wanted the UK101, computer that he built in 1980 to go to a computer museum. That'll probably end up on ebay or in a skip. fuctifino fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Dec 3, 2023 |
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Dec 3, 2023 20:48
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The real invention of civilisation was when the human fossils start showing signs of community care, like someone who survived a long time after breaking their leg and having it set. Way before gathering into cities and inventing slavery.
Brendan Rodgers fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Dec 3, 2023 |
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Dec 3, 2023 20:52
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fuctifino posted:They would have been recorded in old wills, but the chances of those surviving anywhere would be slim, and there would be no way for me to access them. The nephew has been named as executor. Outside of those wills, Dad told me his wishes in phone calls. There are also other things, like he wanted the UK101, computer that he built in 1980 to go to a computer museum. That'll probably end up on ebay or in a skip. If there was probate on your dad's Will then it will be on public record (probate though is not always necessary depending on size of estate). https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn03194/ There's a link on this link to download a pdf 'Obtaining a copy of a will"
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Dec 3, 2023 20:56
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:If there was probate on your dad's Will then it will be on public record (probate though is not always necessary depending on size of estate). I already did a probate search, and I guess the size of the estate (£350k'ish) and the fact that my mum had already been given power of attorney due to Dad's dementia means there was no recorded will
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Dec 3, 2023 20:58
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NotJustANumber99 posted:From what I understand the laws around inheritance are very different in France where they dictate fair shares between siblings. Certainly with property. Netherlands is the same, you straight up cannot disinherit your children.
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Dec 3, 2023 21:11
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Sadly it sounds like one of those battles you're never going to win and will be detrimental to your health to focus on too much. But at the same time, if it was a movie, you'd go to the funeral and force the vicar or whatever to let you speak and just lay into every fucker.
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Dec 3, 2023 21:11
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I've pretty much given up hope of getting any more than the £25k, and I'm pretty certain they will try to shaft me of that too, but that would be a fight that I would eventually win. I am contemplating going to the funeral, and doing exactly what you suggest (recorded on a 360 cam) but I also suspect they are not going to publicly announce it or tell me about it
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Dec 3, 2023 21:12
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SixFigureSandwich posted:Netherlands is the same, you straight up cannot disinherit your children. I've been told it's why there's so many derelict rural run down properties in France where they've been split so many times between family that no one can agree what to do with them that they just end up blocked and left to ruin.
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Dec 3, 2023 21:13
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NotJustANumber99 posted:But at the same time, if it was a movie, you'd go to the funeral and force the vicar or whatever to let you speak and just lay into every fucker.
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Dec 3, 2023 21:19
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NotJustANumber99 posted:I've been told it's why there's so many derelict rural run down properties in France where they've been split so many times between family that no one can agree what to do with them that they just end up blocked and left to ruin. I remember some lecture or other I had years ago on land ownership being told that during the French Revolution, every peasant was given a strip of land and this has subsequently caused a lot of similar problems.
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Dec 3, 2023 21:20
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SixFigureSandwich posted:Netherlands is the same, you straight up cannot disinherit your children. In Finland you can, but it has to be due to a court-approved major reason, something like "murdered someone" or "beat up the people they would stand to inherit". Gender, politics and identity are especially not valid reasons.
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Dec 3, 2023 21:28
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My French ex's family had a large townhouse family home in Burgundy that was built by a relative in the 1700's. It hadn't been lived in full time for 15 years, after the great grandmother moved to a care home on the other side of the river, so it was used as a vacation home by the extended family. This was over 20 years ago, but property over there just didn't hold any value. Less than a third of the houses in the town were occupied full time, and a good third were derelict and/or abandoned. The place next door was also part of the family complex, but had been bought out by one of the relatives. We got offered the 80m2 attic flat in there for 9,000 euros. The 12 bedroom 2-wing townhouse with river frontage that was used as the holiday home was eventually sold when the elderly relative died in the care home, and I don't think it went for much more than 100,000 euros. e:  Those three houses used to be all owned by the family, and there was a barn/house complex behind too, and it was still all one complex a few years before I visited for the first time. fuctifino fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Dec 3, 2023 |
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Dec 3, 2023 21:30
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take the 25g and move to france? I guess brexit hosed that
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Dec 3, 2023 22:07
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otherwise normal, functional family units can fall apart as soon as theres money to be had from an estate to settle. Cash sums like that suddenly being within grasping distance make people go nuts
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Dec 3, 2023 22:10
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Nice to see you back func. And yeah, one sniff of money and families goto poo poo. My dad had a breakdown over relatives trying to gently caress us over in inheritances. gently caress them, take care of your own, smile and be nice to them, and watch them die alone.
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Dec 3, 2023 22:33
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Congrats on your dead ma, fuctifino.
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Dec 3, 2023 22:35
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My pal enjoys telling the story from his grandparents funeral, when cousin's he hadn't seen in decades crawled out of the woodwork to rend their garments only to find out all the money was being split between the family member's who'd looked after her and a local charity. They didn't even bother to stay for the wake.
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Dec 3, 2023 22:41
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Sounds like a lovely situation all round, but unfortunately yeah the best thing to do is probably just to accept the facts and the balance of probabilities, and move on, rather than tying yourself up in knots over it (which you don't seem to be doing tbf). There's a guy I know who got hosed out of his inheritance by a romance scammer (young guy moved in with his elderly mum, got her to change her will, then cashed in when the inevitable happened), and although he did eventually get some more money via the courts, the toll that the legal battle took on his physical and mental health was appalling.
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Dec 3, 2023 22:44
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man even if I was a chancer I'd at least spend some time with family I hadn't seen in decades
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Dec 3, 2023 22:45
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It's not just families. Any group of people can be torn apart by money, no matter how good natured they are at the outset. Did some work administering a club of [sport] enthusiasts once. They'd been given a phone book number bequest and boy did that stoke some rows.
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Dec 3, 2023 22:47
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i would defo do a fraud and gently caress everyone over, family and friends. But its a morally large number to do so
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Dec 3, 2023 22:55
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Tesseraction posted:Congrats on your dead ma, fuctifino.   It's better for my mental health to chalk it all up to bad luck and move on. My brother and his son are going to burn through that money buying expensive cars and posh holidays, and when the son realises that his dad has no money left, he will ditch him too. I'm just glad I didn't seem to inherit the same narcissism. gently caress the money (though it would have been nice to buy a canal boat).... (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Dec 3, 2023 23:13
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fuctifino posted:"We have already taken legal advice, There can’t be many phrases someone can utter that say more about them than this one
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Dec 3, 2023 23:14
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its also usually bollocks
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Dec 3, 2023 23:18
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JoylessJester posted:My pal enjoys telling the story from his grandparents funeral, when cousin's he hadn't seen in decades crawled out of the woodwork to rend their garments only to find out all the money was being split between the family member's who'd looked after her and a local charity. They didn't even bother to stay for the wake. My family did something similar but when the person was still alive. My grandmother had a really bad stroke, and while we were in the hospital they turned up and were 'clearing space for the wake' which involved moving all the expensive looking poo poo to their house. She survived for another half a year, and they 'helped again' for the wake with the rest disappearing never to be seen again. My grandfather was still alive at the time and sill there in the house.
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Dec 3, 2023 23:18
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happyhippy posted:And yeah, one sniff of money and families goto poo poo.
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Dec 3, 2023 23:21
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