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Cold on a Cob posted:hi I've been absent but I just wanted to pop in to give a hearty LOL and LMAO about cope 28 Good to see cop28 is going well.
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Dec 3, 2023 23:16
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28 cops standing on the edge of a cliff
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Dec 3, 2023 23:18
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I don’t think you will be able to help solve the climate problem by pointing fingers or contributing to the polarisation and the divide that is already happening in the world. Show me the solutions. Stop the pointing of fingers. Stop it
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Dec 3, 2023 23:21
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The Titanic sub guys were pioneers if you think about it.
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Dec 3, 2023 23:24
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Dokapon Findom posted:You'd be amazed at the books I haven't read
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Dec 3, 2023 23:44
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https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/dec/04/net-zero-policy-new-gas-projects-abandoned-industry-objectionsquote:The Northern Territory government walked away from a proposal to set net zero emissions requirements for new onshore gas developments after the industry objected, government documents show. :shocked_pikachu:
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Dec 4, 2023 03:18
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BUUNNI posted:uh oh, looks like someone didn't read this book This is a really good book
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Dec 4, 2023 05:58
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so are the other topic un events held annually also raging parties? how many carbon credits would be earned for disbanding the un?
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Dec 4, 2023 06:45
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kater posted:so are the other topic un events held annually also raging parties? how many carbon credits would be earned for disbanding the un? Let’s do one better: disband humanity. Ahem. *prepares anime villain monologue*
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Dec 4, 2023 16:21
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in the last 20 years, coal fired power plants have killed 460,000 Americans https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.adf4915 quote:We found that, over the past two decades in the US, coal PM2.5 was associated with 460,000 extra deaths, constituting >22% of total excess deaths attributable to PM2.5. We also found that the mortality burden of coal PM2.5 has been underestimated using traditional impact assessments that rely on CRFs for total PM2.5 mass (13, 16–18, 39–41). The elevated mortality RR associated with annual exposure to coal PM2.5 aligns with previous evidence of increased relative health risks associated with coal-related PM2.5 or sulfur or sulfate exposure per unit concentration (19–25), although other studies have found little evidence of increased risk related to secondary sulfate PM2.5 or PM2.5 associated with coal (26, 27). Large decreases in annual deaths across the study period highlight the success of emissions reductions brought about by regulations under the 1990 Clean Air Act Amendments. Although coal use in the US has remained low, global use is expected to increase and plateau by 2025 (8), suggesting the potential for high mortality costs from coal for years to come. the researchers made a cool explorer where you can see how many people each individual coal plant killed: https://cpieatgt.github.io/cpie/
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Dec 5, 2023 02:11
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Trabisnikof posted:in the last 20 years, coal fired power plants have killed 460,000 Americans if only the last 4 years didnt constantly hammer the message "it doesnt matter how many people die, you dont matter" so thoroughly, this might actually be remarkable at all. But nah, lol lmao Rest in plastic
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Dec 5, 2023 02:22
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Baby numbers anyway, if you ain't covid you ain't poo poo
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Dec 5, 2023 02:35
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Gunshow Poophole posted:Baby numbers anyway, if you ain't covid you ain't poo poo
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Dec 5, 2023 02:43
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Gunshow Poophole posted:Baby numbers anyway, if you ain't covid you ain't poo poo shhhhh do you hear that it's the sound of multi-breadbasket crop failures coming for that throne
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Dec 5, 2023 07:01
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gently caress COREY PERRY posted:shhhhh do you hear that they shall have a beautifully horrendous union
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Dec 5, 2023 07:33
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Dec 5, 2023 09:58
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puncturewound78 posted:they shall have a beautifully horrendous union horsemen of the world, unite
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Dec 5, 2023 10:34
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many posts to read but wanted to say i'm like 30 pages into "carbon ideologies" and I think vollmann is awesome
swamp thong has issued a correction as of 11:23 on Dec 5, 2023 |
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Dec 5, 2023 11:16
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Stereotype posted:I’m declaring myself a net negative carbon emitter right now by putting a very large negative number in my table of carbon emissions and not explaining it. i thought you died of malaria, good to see you sincerely, mayor dave's office
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Dec 5, 2023 11:21
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puncturewound78 posted:if only the last 4 years didnt constantly hammer the message "it doesnt matter how many people die, you dont matter" so thoroughly, this might actually be remarkable at all. But nah, lol lmao This has been going on for a long time, and a lot of people internalized it completely a long time ago. It's telling when you come across someone who's a self-described proud libertarian, but financially at rock bottom and having a really bad time of it. You can have a productive discussion and agree on how laissez-faire capitalism works, then peel back the layers and end up with an exchange like the following: "Ok, so you see how this system harms you personally and keeps you in poverty?" "Yeah, sorry I suck. I deserve it  "I've had conversations like that. Snap out of it, man! gently caress!
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Dec 5, 2023 13:14
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https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/dec/05/sellafield-nuclear-site-leak-could-pose-risk-to-public
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Dec 5, 2023 16:30
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that’s what makes neoliberalism the perfect companion for capitalism. you convince the slaves to oppress themselves. its like passive income but for maintaining a caste system. brilliant stuff tbh
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Dec 5, 2023 16:31
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AceClown posted:https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/dec/05/sellafield-nuclear-site-leak-could-pose-risk-to-public this is good for bitcoin!
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Dec 5, 2023 16:34
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Just build more nuclear plants
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Dec 5, 2023 17:02
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AceClown posted:https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/dec/05/sellafield-nuclear-site-leak-could-pose-risk-to-public this is a map of potential, hypothetical release if the site explodes or something, not an actual cloud. the article reads like coal/oil propaganda give me more hot rocks
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Dec 5, 2023 17:14
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AceClown posted:https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/dec/05/sellafield-nuclear-site-leak-could-pose-risk-to-public lol they renamed Windscale and kept doing British things there
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Dec 5, 2023 17:39
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HAIL eSATA-n posted:this is a map of potential, hypothetical release if the site explodes or something, not an actual cloud. the article reads like coal/oil propaganda Nuclear is nifty and all, but is completely incompatible with neoliberal capitalism. That site in particular is another great example of the nuclear weapons industry causing massive harms and is why no one trusts the nuclear industry at large. “Ah sorry you can’t count the time they vented plutonium into the atmosphere and killing people because it was being used to make bombs not power” convinces only the biggest of dweebs
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Dec 5, 2023 17:49
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Cool
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Dec 5, 2023 17:50
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Dokapon Findom posted:Just build more nuclear plants this
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Dec 5, 2023 18:01
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Trabisnikof posted:Nuclear is nifty and all, but is completely incompatible with neoliberal capitalism. funny, how many people has that plutonium release killed so far
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Dec 5, 2023 18:02
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Trabisnikof posted:life is nifty and all, but is completely incompatible with neoliberal capitalism.
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Dec 5, 2023 18:15
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Truga posted:funny, how many people has that plutonium release killed so far it's a nuclear weapons program, it's supposed to be killing people morons
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Dec 5, 2023 18:15
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Truga posted:funny, how many people has that plutonium release killed so far The whole premise of nuclear safety is offloading the risk onto the commons and saying well actually only 31 people total died because of Chernobyl 
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Dec 5, 2023 18:16
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Trabisnikof posted:Nuclear is nifty and all, but is completely incompatible with neoliberal capitalism. 100-240 potentially fatal cancers "worst nuclear accident in the West" lol
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Dec 5, 2023 18:17
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Trabisnikof posted:Nuclear is nifty and all, but is completely incompatible with neoliberal capitalism. This is equally true of coal plants. Also that hypothetical discharge pictured will kill far less people with cancer over the next 20 years than a coal plant will kill with respiratory diseases over the same period, nevermind global warming. Also how many people did the plutonium release kill. Also coal plants emit quite a bit of radioactivity as well.
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Dec 5, 2023 18:18
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Dokapon Findom posted:The whole premise of nuclear safety is offloading the risk onto the commons and saying well actually only 31 people total died because of Chernobyl ok, but even solar panel industry has a higher casualty count than nuclear, why is that one good and nuclear isn't?
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Dec 5, 2023 18:22
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Truga posted:ok, but even solar panel industry has a higher casualty count than nuclear, why is that one good and nuclear isn't? widespread solar adoption is relatively new compared to the idiot contrarian bread and butter of making GBS threads on nuclear power you are asking them to switch from their favorite, comfortable brand of wasting everyone's time to something else that would require work to "Um Actually" on.
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Dec 5, 2023 18:32
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Truga posted:funny, how many people has that plutonium release killed so far from that site (formerly known as Windscale), the british government estimates 100-300 people so far and they have a bit of a history of lying and downplaying risks from their nuclear weapons industry so that should be considered a lower bound Fell Mood posted:This is equally true of coal plants. Also that hypothetical discharge pictured will kill far less people with cancer over the next 20 years than a coal plant will kill with respiratory diseases over the same period, nevermind global warming. Also how many people did the plutonium release kill. Also coal plants emit quite a bit of radioactivity as well. yeah and the whole point is Windscale didn't even generate any electricity, it didn't offset any coal power plants. all we got were lovely British nuclear bombs which is why it "doesn't count" towards the deaths caused by the nuclear industry because gotcha Trabisnikof has issued a correction as of 18:37 on Dec 5, 2023 |
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Dec 5, 2023 18:35
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Truga posted:ok, but even solar panel industry has a higher casualty count than nuclear, why is that one good and nuclear isn't? because we can actually install 32 gigawatts of solar in the US in a single year and we cant install 1 nuclear power plant in less than a decade. obviously this doesn't apply to china where they are perfectly capable of doing both. i wonder what the difference is.
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Dec 5, 2023 18:41
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Smog_of_Londonquote:It lasted from Friday 5 December to Tuesday 9 December 1952, then dispersed quickly when the weather changed. Love coal
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Dec 5, 2023 18:46
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