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apparently the mariners are throwing back some money in the trade, but ultimately buying Kelenic and the braves probable "throw him out there wtf is an actual 5th starter" guy in gonzalez is probably worth it in the end. Kelenic probably ends up just a mostly competent platoon guy in LF with Grissom, but hey, maybe this is the change of scenery it takes
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Marco is very very bad and the Braves are obviously trying to win next year. I’d be surprised if he logs any starts for them.
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you would think so, but the braves 5th starter last season was "whatever rookie was called up this week, the corpses of Soroka and Allard, and Yonny Chirinos" Like, Marco was not appreciably worse than most of that
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He’s interchangeable with Jordan Lyles so if that fits your bill he might get some burn. He’s also coming off a nerve injury to his throwing arm.
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it's less "the braves are happy to have him be the 5th starter" and more "he will probably start 12 games, suck in most of them, and not be that much worse than the other mediocrity the braves will throw out as a 5th starter next year"
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Very weird Kelenic is being traded to Atlanta and their version of Kelenic, Vaughn Grissom, isn't going back to Seattle.
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when did everyone sour on Grissom oh no he had a subpar 80 PA at 22 years old
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General Bullshit posted:Very weird Kelenic is being traded to Atlanta and their version of Kelenic, Vaughn Grissom, isn't going back to Seattle. can’t see past Grissom getting traded this winter but I think they’re trying to make him look worthwhile in his own right, hence playing up the idea that he might compete with Kelenic for time: https://twitter.com/mlbbowman/status/1731544094088782133?s=46&t=2RtKUZF-7mtwaGnhOLp93A side question: how long will it take autocorrect to stop trying to turn Kelenic into Kleenex
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Intruder posted:when did everyone sour on Grissom When I drafted him in fantasy baseball and he didn't even make the roster out of spring training 
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poor Jordan https://twitter.com/cespedesbbq/status/1731523579945075066
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Intruder posted:when did everyone sour on Grissom E: speaking of, https://x.com/mlbbowman/status/1731544094088782133?s=20 KICK BAMA KICK fucked around with this message at 08:36 on Dec 4, 2023 |
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What the gently caress
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Penisaurus Sex posted:I don't think trading a 4th OF with some upside to clear two terrible contracts and getting a legit prospect back + a reclamation project reliever is a bad move, or intentionally loving with the fanbase. It's the pattern. Roster stands as thus [quote="LL Poster"] C - Cal and replacement level junk 1B - France 2B - Rojas / Caballero / Moore mash-up SS - JP 3B - Urias LF - Vacant CF - Julio RF - Vacant DH - Vacant Rotation still includes the two rookies from last year and zero depth behind them. Bullpen is similar to the end of last season.[/poster] And they aint spending money so ???
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Popete posted:Everyone's trying to follow the Braves model to get players for dirt cheap. Bregor posted:Scott Kingery says hello Evan White says hello as well! Wait. I'm getting a report here. Ummmm. Evan White has said goodbye. Kirios posted:Oh thank God Mariner fans can finally stop acting like Kelenic is good now. Now apparently it's time for everyone else to for some reason. Dude's always on the cusp of figuring it out. Never has for more than what? A month at a time? Of course he likely will turn into something decent cause the baseball Gods are rude and LOL M's is gonna LOL M's one way or another. Not really happy that they're clearly just salary dumping twice now with no known plan, but other than a general sense that Eugenio seems like a cool dude, his impending fall off is even more likely than the chance that Kelenic never turns the corner.
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Kirios posted:I made the joke a couple of weeks ago that the Mariners FO hates their fan base. They only care about 54% of us.
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They need two OF bats but those are findable. If they don't, then we can roast Dipoto and call for his head but it's December, not February.
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Well Kelenic was hot and cold (and hurt) last season, it shouldn't affect their lineup that much, how bad could it reall-- 
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How much cap space did they clear? Pairing Shohei with a generationally good CF would be quite the combo, they'd be unbeatable in the AL West.
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mcmagic posted:They are probably asking for Tiedemann
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FlamingLiberal posted:I’m sure they are, and they should considering it’s Juan Soto It's a one year rental of Juan Soto.
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They should not, considering it’s one year of Juan Soto. He’s not just one of the Blue Jays’ best prospects, Tiedemann is one of the best in all of baseball. I don’t like prospect hugging, and TINSTAAPP applies, but I would not want to sell out for 2024 unless a Soto deal comes with other moves. Same would apply to the Yankees if they need to give up multiple young arms like Thorpe, Hampton, and Warren. (I’m not counting King and Schmidt as “young”.)
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Tony Phillips posted:Now apparently it's time for everyone else to for some reason. Dude's always on the cusp of figuring it out. Never has for more than what? A month at a time? The reason I like this specifically for the Braves is because they don’t need him to be a lineup cornerstone. They’ve already got plenty of those. Even if he’s just a guy, that’s fine as long as he’s cheap, and there’s upside there that just signing a veteran doesn’t bring you. If he was being traded to a rebuilding team that needed him to be a star in the middle of the lineup, I’d be a lot more skeptical. But he slots in well for the Braves’ needs even if he doesn’t improve at all.
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The Cubs signed the prized NPB pitcher everyone is talking about: Edwin Escobar
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live with fruit posted:For a fanbase that is supposedly so upset that their team hasn't won anything in fifteen years, Yankees fans sure are quick to give Cashman cover with the "rental" talk. It's not like they'd be trading away Jackson Holliday. I still think they get him without having to give up King.
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Inspector_666 posted:I am simply shocked that the sudden appearance of a divisional rival trying to trade for the same player as the Yankees wasn't necessarily based on hard facts. The Blue Jays actually remind me of the Jets because they love to bullshit their fans that they finished second for every great player that becomes available but never actually get them.
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Chourio's will be 27 when his 8/82 deal expires and he has yet to play a day in the Majors. This isn't nearly as bad as the criminal Ozzie Albies deal.
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Juan Soto will have made ~80 million over his first 8 years going year to year and then through arbitration.
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Popete posted:Chourio's will be 27 when his 8/82 deal expires and he has yet to play a day in the Majors. This isn't nearly as bad as the criminal Ozzie Albies deal. Isn't there 2 team option years on top of the 8?
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