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fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

Scatterfold posted:

fully agree that the show is brilliant, but the soundtrack is dreadful; that recurring faux-classical piano theme sounds like something you'd be subjected to as hold music on the phone to HMRC (and is repeated as much)

I totally disagree, but I also have to point out that enjoyment of music is totally subjective. My autistic gift is music and I've had an orchestra that plays in my head 24/7 since I was a toddler. It's rare for me to listen to any music, but there were so many hooks in the various Succession themes that I played the music back-to-back for weeks absorbing all the nuances. But that's just me. I'm a bit weird. I could also have very poor taste

Talking of poor taste:

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Unkempt
May 24, 2003

...perfect spiral, scientists are still figuring it out...

Ms Adequate posted:

You never hear about Toyah Wilcox anymore, do you? Anneka Rice, neither.

You need to start watching Richard Osman's House of Games, which is an amazing opportunity to a) see people who used to be famous 30 years ago and you had no idea they were still alive, and b) see how incredibly stupid 95% of people off of the telly are.

SE Watering
Aug 8, 2023
I hear Anneka Rice on Radio 4 sometimes, can't remember what shows.

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

Anneka Rice reprised her role in Treasure Hunt when it was rebooted by Channel 5 earlier this year. It tanked badly and got dropped from its weekend slot after 2 eps.

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?
Succession grates on my nerves because one of the characters shares my first name but uses a nickname for it I *really hate*.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

Fuming dad slammed 'unbelievable' £71,000 price for week's stay in West County

Poor dad

quote:

A fuming dad was left outraged after he was quoted £71,000 for a week-long holiday in the West Country. Paul Nickerson hoped to rent out a modest home for his family, but was left speechless with his quote.

However, the owner of the three-bed home in St Ives, Cornwall, wanted a whopping £10,232 per night for the week stay.

OH NO! That's horrible

quote:

Paul, a Conservative councillor for Minster and Woodmansey in Beverley, East Yorkshire, was disgusted with the price, which is more than double the UK annual wage of £31,000, reports Cornwall Live.

Speaking to Hull Live, the dad said: "It's a supply and demand issue and they're exploiting it. A lot of people in the UK need and want a holiday, but many will not be able to afford them.

:allears:

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Ms Adequate posted:

You never hear about Toyah Wilcox anymore, do you? Anneka Rice, neither.

Maybe I'm missing something but Toyah's very active these days along with Robert Fripp (her husband) esp doing their Sunday things. IIRC they're on some sort of tour right now but I'm at work so on phone and not googling.
But yeah Anneka Rice nil nadda nothing.

Beaten re Toyah a bazillion times.

Succession - really enjoyed it and it was billed as a dark comedy in my go to :files: place. Was definitely in to Kendal "sad boy" Roy. (Unrequited maternal instinct probably).

Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 13:54 on Dec 4, 2023

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

HopperUK posted:

Succession grates on my nerves because one of the characters shares my first name but uses a nickname for it I *really hate*.

I liked it as an abbreviation tbh :ese:

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


It's the Guardian, but also it's an article about crisps so is inside the thread's wheelhouse: https://www.theguardian.com/food/2023/dec/02/the-weird-secretive-world-of-crisp-flavours

I thought it was quite interesting

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
Minimum salary requirement for a skilled worker visa going up to 38k lol that should help.

Dead Goon
Dec 13, 2002

No Obvious Flaws



I am always mildly perplexed/amused that Toyah Wilcox is married to the dude from King Crimson.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

I wouldn't be able to afford a skilled worker visa at my new salary then.

How many skilled workers are driving immigration figures? I cannot see this change doing much at all.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Tesseraction posted:

I wouldn't be able to afford a skilled worker visa at my new salary then.

How many skilled workers are driving immigration figures? I cannot see this change doing much at all.

I don't understand what you're saying. The current level is 26 or something. So anyone currently here earning between 26 and 38 would no longer be eligible? I reckon that's probably quite a lot of people.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Yeah I guess that I hadn't realised how dramatically it was raised, this is gonna see a mass exodus of all kinds of vital people...

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!

Tesseraction posted:

How many skilled workers are driving immigration figures? I cannot see this change doing much at all.

I'd hazard a guess that nursing and social care workers predominantly fall below that threshold.

The building trade as well (those that actually declare their earnings).

keep punching joe fucked around with this message at 15:11 on Dec 4, 2023

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

keep punching joe posted:

Minimum salary requirement for a skilled worker visa going up to 38k lol that should help.

Another good article on Nesrine Malik on just this subject:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/dec/04/uk-immigration-policy-record-levels-net-migration

She points out that immigration is always politically presented as a vast tide of immigrants flooding in to the country that our elected politicians are valiantly fighting to stem (or fail to stem). The truth is that high immigration is a direct result of long term government policies and you can't reduce it without changing those policies: e.g. we're welcoming in huge numbers of international students in order to kick the university funding can down the road; we're recruiting huge numbers of foreign staff for the NHS 'cos we train far too few here in the UK etc etc.

escapegoat
Aug 18, 2013

Guavanaut posted:

I heard that the remoaners never read it and only watch the subs :mad:

Brexiteers have only seen the Daily Mail dubbed version.

Endjinneer
Aug 17, 2005
Fallen Rib
Total UK population including migration is projected to grow by 3.2% between mid 2020s and mid 2030s.
The number of people of pensionable age is projected to grow 11.3% in the same time frame.

Both parties have ruled out increased state borrowing. Both parties are committed to maintaining the triple-lock on pension benefits. Both parties are committed to reducing migration. Both parties are committed to holding taxes down.
Clearly, the only way out is to abolish contraception and bring back child labour.

Betjeman
Jul 14, 2004

Biker, Biker, Biker GROOVE!
Or they'll keep raising the retirement age

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

keep punching joe posted:

I'd hazard a guess that nursing and social care workers predominantly fall below that threshold.

The building trade as well (those that actually declare their earnings).

Yeah I hadn't really thought about the enormity of the number of sectors affected. Had terminal tech sector tunnel vision where beating 38k is easy, but only for like, ASIC design.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

This title contains sponsored content.

Is this actually something that can happen in this government though, or just more hot air? Until Keith unironically adopts it as a manifesto promise ofc.

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
Yeah, this government's degenerated into rule by press release a long time ago: unless they've made Parliamentary time to pass a new law, it's all hot air.

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!

josh04 posted:

Is this actually something that can happen in this government though, or just more hot air? Until Keith unironically adopts it as a manifesto promise ofc.

It's positioning for the general election, only the tories have the courage to cut the numbers of immigrants (and nurses, technicians, service staff). Labour would never commit to this, they'll betray you. My government will send them back (unless they are rich).

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Bold of sunak to adopt the "only high paying jobs for immigrants" platform, you would think he'd be against it.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Endjinneer posted:

Total UK population including migration is projected to grow by 3.2% between mid 2020s and mid 2030s.
The number of people of pensionable age is projected to grow 11.3% in the same time frame.

Both parties have ruled out increased state borrowing. Both parties are committed to maintaining the triple-lock on pension benefits. Both parties are committed to reducing migration. Both parties are committed to holding taxes down.
Clearly, the only way out is to abolish contraception and bring back child labour.

domhal
Dec 30, 2008


0.000% of Communism has been built. Evil child-murdering billionaires still rule the world with a shit-eating grin. All he has managed to do is make himself *sad*. It has, however, made him into a very, very smart boy with something like a university degree in Truth. Instead of building Communism, he now builds a precise model of this grotesque, duplicitous world.

Two people who work for BristolLive mildly permuting a HullLive article by a third person about holiday homes in Cornwall because a councillor got annoyed. Presumably at no point did anyone try to get a quote from someone Cornish. Big LOL at this part

quote:

A lot of people in the UK need and want a holiday, but many will not be able to afford them.

quote:

A lot of people in Cornwall need and want a house, but many will not be able to afford them.

Endjinneer
Aug 17, 2005
Fallen Rib
Nah see the way this country works is socialism for the wealthy.

Want a car? If you can afford a new one, we'll give you a load of money off an electric one which is cheaper to run and avoids emission zone charges.
Want to buy a house? If you can afford a deposit, we'll hold interest rates at zero for a decade.
That aviation fuel bill looking a bit steep? Let's have a look at that fuel duty for you.
Want to rent out a house for a week so you can go on holiday? There should be price caps.
Want to rent a house to live in? Get hosed.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
£38k GROSS pay is the 73rd percentile (£38200) of income amongst those who earn enough to pay taxas at 20/21 (latest figures which seem to be available).

(£26300 is the 50th percentile - ie median).

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/percentile-points-from-1-to-99-for-total-income-before-and-after-tax

MPs' pay - adjacent to £85k- is between the 95th & 96th percentiles. and £50k is the 85th percentile!

I don't think many higher earners appreciate just how low most peoples' pay is!

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!

Pistol_Pete posted:

Yeah, this government's degenerated into rule by press release a long time ago: unless they've made Parliamentary time to pass a new law, it's all hot air.

Actually I think this is secondary legislation so they can just do it.

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

I don't think many higher earners appreciate just how low most peoples' pay is!

On the contrary, I think they appreciate it a lot, and many would prefer the gap to be wider.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

We almost went to war with the Netherlands

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/dec/04/dutch-media-report-claim-boris-johnson-planned-raid-on-vaccine-plant-in-2021

quote:

Boris Johnson’s appearance before the Covid-19 inquiry is not until Wednesday but it is already making headlines in the Netherlands amid a mixture of amusement and alarm at claims he asked for British spies to plan a “raid” on a Dutch vaccine plant.

The operation – according to sources who briefed Johnson’s employer, the Daily Mail – would have taken place against the backdrop of a tit-for-tat row in March 2021 between the then prime minister and the EU, which was moving towards restricting exports of vaccines across the Channel.

An “enraged” Johnson asked security services to draw up “military options” to obtain “impounded” doses of AstraZeneca vaccine from a plant in Leiden after Britain had negotiated a deal with the company.

Dead Goon posted:

I am always mildly perplexed/amused that Toyah Wilcox is married to the dude from King Crimson.

Robert Fripp is also the father of live looping, using looped reel-to-reel tape machines to create his 'Frippertronics' system. The man is a musical genius

fuctifino fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Dec 4, 2023

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Dead Goon posted:

I am always mildly perplexed/amused that Toyah Wilcox is married to the dude from King Crimson.

Nice interview with the two of them. It's the Times but this is the non-paywalled version:

https://archive.is/0P0Tb

Mebh
May 10, 2010


Continuing my thread tradition of stanning for Clive Lewis, here's an interview about a podcast on slavery and British colonial history he's done. It's quite good. I wish we had him, not Starmer.

https://youtu.be/B4GnIbenPjU?si=MyZtQsXn0hHv-Jpqq

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006
so he wants intervention in the Free Market? doesn’t sound very Conservative of him

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

keep punching joe posted:

Minimum salary requirement for a skilled worker visa going up to 38k lol that should help.
I think the idea is less about limiting skilled workers and more about making sure anyone earning under that is classed as unskilled, and can therefore be exploited under the abusive farming visas.

Mesopotamia
Apr 12, 2010

Scatterfold posted:

fully agree that the show is brilliant, but the soundtrack is dreadful; that recurring faux-classical piano theme sounds like something you'd be subjected to as hold music on the phone to HMRC (and is repeated as much)

I have this hunch the intro music started out intending to sound like the kind of tacky poo poo someone like Kendal would listen to ("it's classy piano, right, but it's got a hip hop beat and sub bass"), but ended up being taken seriously because a load of people liked it. It's proper shite.

Show's decent, second half of Season 1 + Season 2 especially. Ends with a whimper, though.

Endjinneer
Aug 17, 2005
Fallen Rib
I wonder how many people from abroad end up in revenue and customs? The border force starting salary is £22,400 so they'll have to start recruiting straight out of the small boats and billeting their staff in the Principality of Sealand.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Mesopotamia posted:

I have this hunch the intro music started out intending to sound like the kind of tacky poo poo someone like Kendal would listen to ("it's classy piano, right, but it's got a hip hop beat and sub bass"), but ended up being taken seriously because a load of people liked it. It's proper shite.

Counterpoint, it's a very catchy theme with a melody that's earwormy despite going outside its key maybe 4 times - it makes it fun to noodle.

And the exact elements you describe (slightly gauche faux-classical melody mixed with modern subs and a beat) perfectly complements the thematic elements of vulgar rich idiot being supplanted by his clan of equally vulgar rich idiot kids who have pretensions of being cool and "with it".

DreddyMatt
Nov 25, 2002
MY LACK OF KNOWLEDGE OF CURRENT EVENTS IS EXCEEDED ONLY BY MY UNQUENCHABLE THIRST FOR PISS. FUK U AMERIKKKA!!

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

£38k GROSS pay is the 73rd percentile (£38200) of income amongst those who earn enough to pay taxas at 20/21 (latest figures which seem to be available).

(£26300 is the 50th percentile - ie median).

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/percentile-points-from-1-to-99-for-total-income-before-and-after-tax

MPs' pay - adjacent to £85k- is between the 95th & 96th percentiles. and £50k is the 85th percentile!

I don't think many higher earners appreciate just how low most peoples' pay is!

UK is such a backwards country. 50k isn't even that much money. In comparison to the average cost of houses and cars and cost of living, you're comfortable, but certainly not rich.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Mebh posted:

Continuing my thread tradition of stanning for Clive Lewis, here's an interview about a podcast on slavery and British colonial history he's done. It's quite good. I wish we had him, not Starmer.

https://youtu.be/B4GnIbenPjU?si=MyZtQsXn0hHv-Jpqq

He's far from perfect but he would have been my choice for post-Corbyn candidate ahead of RLB.

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crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
how can you not want sensible big pink prime minister in waiting keir ?!?!?

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