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Lazy_Liberal posted:wow i just this moment made the realization that supermarkets are the way they are because some general store bozos didn't wanna hire more staff and passed the labor onto the consumer
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Lazy_Liberal posted:wow i just this moment made the realization that supermarkets are the way they are because some general store bozos didn't wanna hire more staff and passed the labor onto the consumer Also they found that while shoplifting did increase, the shrinkage loss was more than compensated for by the increase in impulse buys. So it was also adopted to encourage you to buy more, and it kicked off the era of branding and package design to attract customers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piggly_Wiggly#History
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VitalSigns posted:You're supposed to post the content not be the content.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Did my post give you some warm and fuzzies, make you wish that was the way things are?? In America, there are people who want their experience at the grocery store to be exactly what I wrote. They exist! They're not even edge cases or crazies. You wrote a FWD: FWD: FWD: detailing a type of rear end in a top hat that has nothing to do with the reasonable complaint of "having to scan and bag all of my groceries and then wait at the exit to show my receipt to prove I did it is a tedious and stupid waste of time that only exists due to corporate greed" and hoisted it up as some sort of grand own that we're all supposed to stand up and clap for.
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:its antiquated. most of the time someone starts going on about the dole, they probably also have very strong opinions about roman history and also you shouldn't ask them what they think of BLM.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Did my post give you some warm and fuzzies, make you wish that was the way things are?? In America, there are people who want their experience at the grocery store to be exactly what I wrote. They exist! They're not even edge cases or crazies. I'm sure somebody like that strawman exists, it's just a wild response to a fairly reasonable complaint about stores that waste people's time treating them like thieves to squeeze out a few extra points of profit
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I dunno, my niece was telling me people skipping items intentionally at the self scan, or scanning cheap items and bagging expensive ones are all over TikTok so a receipt checker isn't something too crazy and "greedy" in my mind.
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the_steve posted:You wrote a FWD: FWD: FWD: detailing a type of rear end in a top hat that has nothing to do with the reasonable complaint of "having to scan and bag all of my groceries and then wait at the exit to show my receipt to prove I did it is a tedious and stupid waste of time that only exists due to corporate greed" and hoisted it up as some sort of grand own that we're all supposed to stand up and clap for.
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Medullah posted:I dunno, my niece was telling me people skipping items intentionally at the self scan, or scanning cheap items and bagging expensive ones are all over TikTok so a receipt checker isn't something too crazy and "greedy" in my mind. The greed is the fact that they'd rather do all of this instead of just pay employees to operate the cash registers.
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the_steve posted:The greed is the fact that they'd rather do all of this instead of just pay employees to operate the cash registers. *shrug* give me self checkout any day of the week. In and out much quicker than when I have to wait in line. And it's not like if they didn't have them the lanes would be filled with cashiers anyway. Though now I'm remembering the last time I posted one of my Facebook group's anti self-checkout memes it turned into a 10 page argument so probably just gonna drop it now.
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Medullah posted:I dunno, my niece was telling me people skipping items intentionally at the self scan, or scanning cheap items and bagging expensive ones are all over TikTok so a receipt checker isn't something too crazy and "greedy" in my mind. There's two ways to deal with that extra shrinkage cost if it makes the labor savings not worth it. One is to reverse course, "whoops that was a bad idea", and spend the money to staff the store appropriately. Buuut line must go up or the executives will have to settle for 40-foot yachts. So another solution: waste everyone's time with another bullshit line to double-check their work. Some people who aren't stealing are going to object to this since it's just more wasted time so the store can save money, I don't think it's unreasonable for them to feel that way. If you don't mind that's fine, I feel the same way. I personally love saving labor costs for my favorite brands. While I wait I grab a buffer and polish up the floor so the board can fire some janitors and goose their stock options, a little thing called customer loyalty. VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Dec 5, 2023 |
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Medullah posted:*shrug* give me self checkout any day of the week. In and out much quicker than when I have to wait in line. And it's not like if they didn't have them the lanes would be filled with cashiers anyway. You seem to be on the verge of a breakthrough here, please continue with this line of thinking
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I'm not sure what it's like in other countries but after our major supermarkets brought in self checkouts they've increased their staff numbers across the store, they're just doing more useful things. Doesn't stop the boomers here from bitching and whining, though.
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iajanus posted:I'm not sure what it's like in other countries but after our major supermarkets brought in self checkouts they've increased their staff numbers across the store, they're just doing more useful things. Weird, do you have like a strong retail workers' union that forced the company to protect their jobs in exchange or something?
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iajanus posted:I'm not sure what it's like in other countries but after our major supermarkets brought in self checkouts they've increased their staff numbers across the store, they're just doing more useful things. I'm struggling to follow the causal logic here.
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Medullah posted:*shrug* give me self checkout any day of the week. In and out much quicker than when I have to wait in line. And it's not like if they didn't have them the lanes would be filled with cashiers anyway. There's only a line because the store is too greedy to employ enough people to staff more than 2 checkout lines at once, so they are outsourcing that work onto you and you are doing it for free. And then you get to wait in yet another line while an employee interrogates you about what you bought and treats you like a thief, I guess.
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Nebrilos posted:There's only a line because the store is too greedy to employ enough people to staff more than 2 checkout lines at once, so they are outsourcing that work onto you and you are doing it for free. And then you get to wait in yet another line while an employee interrogates you about what you bought and treats you like a thief, I guess. you do realize that most people prefer doing the evil capitalist store's job for them for free, right? it's really not about getting conned, i'm 110% aware i'm doin a job stores paid poo poo wages for once upon a time, and prefer doing it myself. also wtf hell stores do y'all go to that there's a line for receipt checking if it happens at all?
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:you do realize that most people prefer doing the evil capitalist store's job for them for free, right? it's really not about getting conned, i'm 110% aware i'm doin a job stores paid poo poo wages for once upon a time, and prefer doing it myself. I seldom get receipt checked at stores that prominently have someone stationed to do it but I expect it's because I'm too white and middle aged to think I'm a particular shoplifting risk. This leads me to think that: 1. The same is even more true for most of the people I see participating in these Facebook like-and-shares complaining about it, but they probably got asked once and went into a how-dare-you spiral. 2. They're probably a lot more aggressive with anyone younger/darker/poorer looking than me, and that's even worse than if everyone did get bothered every time.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:
shout out to my boy Glenn checking receipts at Costco. He’s been doing it for years. (I don’t hear anybody complaining about receipt checkers at Costco because Costco rules. And there’s almost never a line at receipts unless the store is absolutely slammed.)
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:you do realize that most people prefer doing the evil capitalist store's job for them for free, right? it's really not about getting conned, i'm 110% aware i'm doin a job stores paid poo poo wages for once upon a time, and prefer doing it myself. Do most people prefer it, or do they choose the fastest line which happens to be self checkout because the store understaffs the registers on purpose. I think you'd see a lot less complaints about it if stores (a) didn't use it as an excuse to cut jobs and therefore (b) didn't make the normal experience worse in order to push people to the cheaper (for the corporate bottom line) option. I doubt anybody would minds if all the lines were just as fast and self checkout is an extra option for people who enjoy the zen feeling of scanning items / want to steal easier and/or are goons who don't want to interact with service workers.
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This feels like this may be one of those UK/US divides because certainly here in the UK we don't seemingly care about self check outs at all. Honestly seems like most people prefer it. Have a few items, use a self checkout. Have more than a basketful, use a lane. If the queues for the lanes are getting long, they open more checkouts. Stores open and close lanes as required. As mentioned earlier, some of those check out staff have been moved to "click and collect" shopping which has seemingly been around for years now. We now also have self scan while doing the shopping. So you can use a handheld device or your mobile phone while you are shopping to scan items as you take them off the shelves. Paying for everything at the end takes about 30 seconds so there is no queue to do that. It's an incredibly popular system.
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Tsietisin posted:This feels like this may be one of those UK/US divides because certainly here in the UK we don't seemingly care about self check outs at all. Honestly seems like most people prefer it. For being world capitalism... capital, the US banks are hyperconservative about actually allowing you to give money to companies. I swear it was like 2015 before even chipped debit cards were commonplace.
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I can remember far more complaints about having to wheel your own carts around the place from the UK side of the debate than there has been about self checkout. Which makes sense because self carting was a far greater transfer of labor from employee to customer than self scanning.
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VitalSigns posted:Weird, do you have like a strong retail workers' union that forced the company to protect their jobs in exchange or something? The union that covers most of the supermarket workers is absolute trash that's been pulled up many times by the authority for coercing its members to sign up to agreements that are markedly worse for them. E: there is a new retail workers union starting to muscle in to try to take over the space and they're a lot better, so hopefully they succeed. iajanus fucked around with this message at 10:45 on Dec 6, 2023 |
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Guavanaut posted:I can remember far more complaints about having to wheel your own carts around the place from the UK side of the debate than there has been about self checkout. If stores in the UK didn't cut prices when they introduced it, I'm not surprised people didn't like it.
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The prices were lower, but I remember a lot of people being convinced that they'd just do that for long enough to put all the general stores and grocers out of business and then put them up, which isn't too far from what happened. There were also a bunch of other ways of doing similar kinds of cost saving at the time, like index/catalogue stores operating something like a paper-based pickup system, where even though you had to fill out a bunch of numbers on the paper cards in advance didn't strike people as quite so obvious a "you do all the work" move.
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When the credit/debit chip use started in the US, I remember seeing people post about how it was a world government set up. I cannot remember the specific reasoning they used but they totally said that it would lead to the downfall of the US.
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Bizarro Kanyon posted:When the credit/debit chip use started in the US, I remember seeing people post about how it was a world government set up. I cannot remember the specific reasoning they used but they totally said that it would lead to the downfall of the US. I mean...were they wrong? 
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Bizarro Kanyon posted:When the credit/debit chip use started in the US, I remember seeing people post about how it was a world government set up. I cannot remember the specific reasoning they used but they totally said that it would lead to the downfall of the US. That's everything here though. 5G, mRNA, artifical meat, globes, the UN, water fluoridation, sunscreen, walkable cities, it's all an international conspiracy to destroy America.
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Don't forget barcodes. Making inventory management less of a chore is actually the work of 666 satans. I could accept that it was a technology that matured at a time where in conjunction with brakes-off Reaganite capitalism it would play a part in 5 companies owning all the food supply chains, but nope, definitely 666 satans. wait... 
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Sounds like barcodes aren't that efficient if they need 666 satans. I've heard things are moving to QR codes soon-ish. I imagine everyone will handle that calmly.
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A basic QR code can store 354.45 times the amount of data as a standard retail barcode. That's up to 236,063.7 satans!
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Doesn’t hobby lobby still not use barcodes because of the crazy mark of satan theory?
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1500 Satans... Not great, not terrible.
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VitalSigns posted:Do most people prefer it, or do they choose the fastest line which happens to be self checkout because the store understaffs the registers on purpose. I prefer self-checkout and will wait in line to get into the self checkout area instead of going to an open register.
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A Horrible cult made it, but I always have to share this anti barcode bop https://youtu.be/lknW2mzXMMY?si=_iDwjCsNrH_5Cs0i
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:For being world capitalism... capital, the US banks are hyperconservative about actually allowing you to give money to companies. I swear it was like 2015 before even chipped debit cards were commonplace. A huge part of it was that skimming-style or card theft wasn't a huge issue in the US, so there was no impetus. At least, that's the story I was told. borkencode posted:Doesn’t hobby lobby still not use barcodes because of the crazy mark of satan theory? What bar code would you even put on an ancient Mesopotamian artifact?
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I can't scan a thing. I'll open this one.
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Panfilo posted:1500 Satans... Not great, not terrible.
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Someone once told me you have to choose which hill you die on: Get ready to fill out your reports on me, ‘cause I'm going to vent here. Frankly I expect some "unfriending" to happen and that is fine too. I believe we all have the right to worship as we please, but I also know that our country, the United States of America, was founded on Christian principles. I believe we should be proud of our country. A quote is a quote. It should not be amended or watered down. The news media should not be afraid to use the "Love of Christ" part. Why they state, “Because, using the words Christ or God might offend someone!” Well, now it's my turn to be offended! I'm offended that the news media would edit it out. Offended that Christians are being asked to tread lightly, so as not to offend someone of another religion. This man, Jesus, loved God, loved his people, loved the world, and gave his life for the sins of all people. Those who “believe in Him, and accept Him as their personal Savior, will have everlasting life!!!” This Founding Principle is actually embedded in our Declaration of Independence: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.” Why would the left lopsided media continue to edit this truth?! I hope every Christian or every person that believes in God who is OFFENDED will copy this and paste it to their status... “If we ever forget that we're one nation under GOD, then we will be a nation gone under.” ~Ronald Reagan. *Before you say it, I already know that a lot of you will say I don't know how to copy & paste.* It’s easy... hold your finger on this post when the word copy appears, just touch it, then go to your home page and where it says "what's on your mind", touch it and hold your finger where you would start writing your comment and touch "paste”. If we continue to do nothing as not to offend anyone else, we will eventually be offended out of the constitution and out of a country! If you read this to the end, can I get an "AMEN”??? 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸AMEN!!!!! 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
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