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This loving sucks, MLB needs an NBA-style Deal Zone
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R.D. Mangles posted:This loving sucks, MLB needs an NBA-style Deal Zone The NHL's Free Agent Frenzy on July 1 used to be good until the last CBA basically allowed every player to skirt it. Edit: Dave Roberts would probably get fired (yay!) if he leaked that the Dodgers met with Ohtani (and Ohtani was serious about punishing teams who shared that info). But I doubt Dave is that dumb so I guess we're nearing the end. Dave really is a Yappasaurus Rex tho
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Dec 5, 2023 21:16
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If we're out on Ohtani then we better loving get Yamamoto and Glasnow and resign Bellinger
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Dec 5, 2023 21:22
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I will also take Juan Soto as a consolation prize please and thank you
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Dec 5, 2023 21:27
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Ohtani boy, the Cubs, the Cubs are calling
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Dec 5, 2023 21:35
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If the Cubs don't sign Ohtani than I will only be consoled if they sign Yamamoto, Bellinger and trade for Soto Oh and also Ohtani
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Dec 5, 2023 21:35
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Poque posted:Ohtani boy, the Cubs, the Cubs are calling From Glen(view) to Glen(dale Heights) and down the lakeside
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Dec 5, 2023 21:37
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I hope Ohtani drags this out to 2024. He can sign with the Dodgers on 2/14 (he's my valentine)
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Dec 5, 2023 21:38
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You will get Rhys Hoskins and scrub veteran relievers and like it
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Dec 5, 2023 21:38
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Craig Counsell has been handed the keys to Shohei Ohtani's chocolate factory, Dave Roberts has been rolled away by the oompa loompas for squeezing
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Dec 5, 2023 21:39
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Hand Row posted:You will get Rhys Hoskins and scrub veteran relievers and like it I mean, Hoskins is a career 125 OPS+ bat and the Cubs still need a 1B, I'd actually be quite pleased with the Cubs bringing him in.
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Dec 5, 2023 21:40
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The Carter Hawkins quote from yesterday makes me think their excuse for not spending again is that they don't want to block prospects. https://twitter.com/JesseRogersESPN/status/1731855036592849094
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Dec 5, 2023 21:44
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lol Knocking but not pounding
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Dec 5, 2023 21:47
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I’ve been saying it for months, any money that the Cubs would be spending this offseason is going to some dark money Trump Super PAC
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Dec 5, 2023 21:48
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Latest Athletic podcast is speculating nothing will happen until Ohtani signs. How true does that seem? Pretty likely. Ohtani was always the top Free Agent on the board, and what his contract goes for is going to set the mood of the FA signings - we already know there's a pretty depleted player market this offseason so the big names that are on the board (Yamamoto, Bellinger) aren't going to move an inch until Ohtani goes so that they get as much money for themselves as they can. Niwrad posted:The Carter Hawkins quote from yesterday makes me think their excuse for not spending again is that they don't want to block prospects. extremely lol for Hawkins to say this given how much Cubs fans are complaining the team won't give their current up-and-comers at-bats to save the team's life
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Dec 5, 2023 21:49
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I'd honestly be fine with "Short-term deals to avoid boxing prospects out" as a Plan B if it means going after Soto and Hopkins; less so if it means going after Hopkins and Matt Chapman Also they should be in on one of the top SPs still obviously
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Dec 5, 2023 21:52
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I hear veteran clubhouse leader Eric Hosmer could be had on a one year league minimum deal...
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Dec 5, 2023 21:55
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xbilkis posted:I'd honestly be fine with "Short-term deals to avoid boxing prospects out" as a Plan B if it means going after Soto and Hopkins; less so if it means going after Hopkins and Matt Chapman Soto (who is not going to be a Cub, btw) is younger than some of their top prospects
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Dec 5, 2023 21:57
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Ohtani re-signing with the Angels and just contentedly spending the remaining 8 years of his career there winning 70-80 games per year is by far the funniest outcome, right?
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Dec 5, 2023 21:58
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General Dog posted:Ohtani re-signing with the Angels is by far the funniest outcome, right? Depends on who you ask, but staying on the Angels is definitely the saddest for his career
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Dec 5, 2023 21:59
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Nodoze posted:Depends on who you ask, but staying on the Angels is definitely the saddest for his career Maybe he's happy to spend his Octobers doing something else
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Dec 5, 2023 22:00
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R.D. Mangles posted:This loving sucks, MLB needs an NBA-style Deal Zone Baseball is the only major sport without a deal frenzy because it's the only major sport without a true salary cap, so there's no real urgency for signings.
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Dec 5, 2023 22:10
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General Dog posted:Ohtani re-signing with the Angels and just contentedly spending the remaining 8 years of his career there winning 70-80 games per year is by far the funniest outcome, right? I dunno that sounds kinda nice. Yea pro sports has become all about winning over everything. But drat would be refreshing for someone to just do what they love as well as they can where they are happy and not care about winner take all poo poo.
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Dec 5, 2023 22:13
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Sydin posted:I hear veteran clubhouse leader Eric Hosmer could be had on a one year league minimum deal... edit: dear god I did not realize he still has 2 more years left on that deal 
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IcePhoenix posted:Baseball is the only major sport without a deal frenzy because it's the only major sport without a true salary cap, so there's no real urgency for signings. The draft also doesn't matter to your upcoming season so there is no desperation to immediately fill out your roster
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Niwrad posted:The Carter Hawkins quote from yesterday makes me think their excuse for not spending again is that they don't want to block prospects. See, this is the kind of rhetoric I was expected as soon as the offseason began. I was very surprised to hear the Cubs were seriously in on Ohtani given their track record of FA deals and expected it to be another Harper situation where there's a lot of smoke but ultimately turns out never any fire. Maybe that's the situation here but again I'm waiting for another source besides loving Nightengale to point to the Cubs as having rolled out of the sweepstakes for Ohtani. This kind of sentiment also once again underscores just how loving stupid it was to bring in a bunch of short term dogshit vets this year like Smyly/Barnhart/Hosmer/Mancini instead of just rolling out the young guys and seeing if they're gonna stick or not. It's clear now the Cubs feel like they're in an in-between state, so how about actually doing some float tests with your goddamn rookies?
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Dec 5, 2023 22:18
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bawfuls posted:who are we kidding, Hosmer is definitely too high on himself to accept a league minimum deal Hosmer had some weird reality warping field around him that made MLB organizations consider him like a top ten guy in the entire game, all based around like 1-2 good seasons in KC.
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Sydin posted:I mean, Hoskins is a career 125 OPS+ bat and the Cubs still need a 1B, I'd actually be quite pleased with the Cubs bringing him in. He hit 30 homers last year so I'm down. It would mean the Cubs are out for Belli, though 
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Sydin posted:Hosmer had some weird reality warping field around him that made MLB organizations consider him like a top ten guy in the entire game, all based around like 1-2 good seasons in KC. Maybe if the Dodgers had won it all in 2008 Loney could have gotten paid too
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Sydin posted:I mean, Hoskins is a career 125 OPS+ bat and the Cubs still need a 1B, I'd actually be quite pleased with the Cubs bringing him in. I remember hearing on a fantasy podcast that Hoskins had a noticeable decline in ability (Statcast numbers mostly) the season before the injury, so no I would not like to take a gamble on Hoskins. Mervert for life yo
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Sydin posted:See, this is the kind of rhetoric I was expected as soon as the offseason began. I was very surprised to hear the Cubs were seriously in on Ohtani given their track record of FA deals and expected it to be another Harper situation where there's a lot of smoke but ultimately turns out never any fire. Maybe that's the situation here but again I'm waiting for another source besides loving Nightengale to point to the Cubs as having rolled out of the sweepstakes for Ohtani. I don't think it's a strategy or anything. They just don't want to spend big market money. Happy to be 10-15 in payroll and build a scrappy team that can sniff the playoffs. Ohtani would have been incredibly cool but I would be pretty happy if they just re-signed Bellinger, re-signed Candelario, signed a top-of-the-rotation arm, and maybe got high leverage reliver like Hader (or anyone who is competent). That would likely put them in the top 5 in payroll and wouldn't hold any prospects back.
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Sydin posted:Hosmer had some weird reality warping field around him that made MLB organizations consider him like a top ten guy in the entire game, all based around like 1-2 good seasons in KC. Austin Hedges was still crying about how the Padres treated Hosmer this summer. Which is funny because he always came off like a pouty baby to the media.
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Dec 5, 2023 22:31
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bawfuls posted:my favorite Hosmer comp is James Loney I miss the days of watching Chad Billingsley pitch
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bawfuls posted:my favorite Hosmer comp is James Loney I'm so thankful KC let the Padres overpay for him - now he's remembered as a guy who brought a Championship to KC instead of that guy who we paid way too much money to ground out to 2B over and over.
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1732151497213755903 https://twitter.com/jordancicchelli/status/1732152105069113396
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:https://twitter.com/Alden_Gonzalez/status/1732130050055503939 https://twitter.com/Brandon_N_Wile/status/1732152965253796222 ahahahahaha
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General Dog posted:Ohtani re-signing with the Angels and just contentedly spending the remaining 8 years of his career there winning 70-80 games per year is by far the funniest outcome, right? 1000000%. "I dont get the big deal" Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:https://twitter.com/Brandon_N_Wile/status/1732152965253796222 Holy poo poo lol MaoistBanker fucked around with this message at 22:52 on Dec 5, 2023 |
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Dec 5, 2023 22:48
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"Cubs are DEFINITELY in on Ohtani" https://twitter.com/kateefeldman/status/1732154527913005426 "Cubs unwilling to meet the most basic contract terms everyone expected months ago"
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Dec 5, 2023 22:49
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