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Gabagool posted:Correct. Oh cool two reports from the two guys who I explicitly do not trust. Very helpful.
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I made a comment earlier tonight, that I guess, went out over the air that I am deeply ashamed of. If I have hurt Shohei Ohtani, I can’t tell you how much I say, from the bottom of my heart, I’m so very very sorry. I pride myself and think of myself as a man of business - as there’s a conversation with the blue jays, it will be a long one. And so that will make it a 500 million contract.
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abuse culture. posted:I made a comment earlier tonight, that I guess, went out over the air that I am deeply ashamed of. If I have hurt Shohei Ohtani, I can’t tell you how much I say, from the bottom of my heart, I’m so very very sorry. I pride myself and think of myself as a man of business - as there’s a conversation with the blue jays, it will be a long one. And so that will make it a 500 million contract. 
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Sydin posted:Oh cool two reports from the two guys who I explicitly do not trust. Very helpful. https://twitter.com/amartinez_11/status/1732167945583759762 better source, i'm not encouraged but at least counsell isn't out there yapping about the tour of the troughs and scoreboard
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I hate the lottery so drat much Royals have the second worst record and pick at 6. 
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KICK BAMA KICK posted:Draft lottery results I had to look up the article on mlb.com because I have no idea how the lottery actually works and this rule is wild quote:Three other teams -- the Mets, Padres and Yankees -- that were eligible for the lottery also dropped in the first round. The Mets had the seventh-best odds (4.3 percent) to win that top pick, but because they, along with the Padres and Yankees, exceeded the second surcharge threshold of the Competitive Balance Tax, they will have their first overall pick dropped 10 spots because they did not land one of the top six picks in the lottery. That means the Mets will pick No. 19, while the Padres and Yankees will pick at Nos. 25 and 26, respectively.
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It’s deeply silly for the Ohio teams to get the first two picks, but on the other hand, gently caress tanking I’ll laugh my rear end off if the A’s spend half a decade chasing the Cleveland Spiders so they can move to Vegas and don’t ever see a #1 overall pick out of it
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mdemone posted:You could probably call it cultural, but it's more of a deference thing. He doesn't want to embarrass the franchise he's currently a part of, I think it's as straightforward as that. He is not currently part of any franchise, do you think he is unaware of what 'free agency' is bawfuls posted:If Ohtani genuinely considers the very bland comments Dave Roberts made (yes we met a few days ago, I thought it went well, he's amazing, he's his own man it's up to him) to be a disqualifying leak, then lol ok I guess. I'd hardly consider that a leak or novel information on negotiations. Is he really that much of a diva/narcissist? I didn't think so, but maybe we'll find out. If Ohtani is really pissed off that Dave Roberts gushed about having spoken to him, what the Dodgers could and probably would do is fire him to placate Ohtani. I'm both more on the "managers matter" side than most people today are, and also more on the "Dave Roberts is a pretty good manager (at least in the regular season)" wagon than most people today are, but there has never been a manager nearly as valuable to a team as Ohtani is, and if there has been Dave Roberts sure as poo poo ain't it. If Ohtani breathed a hint of a threat to walk away over something Roberts did the Dodgers would axe him without a second thought. Eric the Mauve fucked around with this message at 00:18 on Dec 6, 2023 |
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Whatever Ohtani's motivation for wanting teams to keep things quiet, doing the one specific thing his camp asks teams not to do seems like a bad idea
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The Cubs are out because there is absolutely no sign that this ownership group would invest that kind of money into a player. Outside of a few years, they've mostly been cheap.
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The Cubs probably offered a straight 15/500 whereas Ohtani's agent is asking for more like 12/600 with 3 opt outs
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corn on the cop posted:https://twitter.com/cubszone/status/1732176043438715211?t=SqCk3UxbSeOFaJut1RunmA I hope his rage adds enough to the Cubs offer they land our new BFF Ohtani.
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If Roberts blabber mouth is what gets him fired, lmaoKICK BAMA KICK posted:Draft lottery results Top 2 picks belong to the 10th and 15th worst teams lol. There were 3 teams tied at 82-80, Reds, Yankees and Padres. At least we all dodged a bullet there Another kick in the balls for As fans Nissin Cup Nudist fucked around with this message at 00:27 on Dec 6, 2023 |
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Tony Phillips posted:Dave Roberts standing there with a bowl full of brown M&Ms like a dumbass. Thank you for saying this so I didn't have to.
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Sydin posted:I think it's less cultural and more that Ohtani himself is just a very introverted and private dude who wants to minimize the drama around the negotiations as much as possible. Him insisting on teams keeping negotiations secret means it's much less likely word of those negotiations will leak to the media and result in a bunch of MLB reporters showing up at the place/time they're taking place as well. If you're an introverted and private celebrity, then maybe Los Angeles isn't the city for you. Everything Bob says makes me more convinced the Cubs are gonna get Ohtani.
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Tony Phillips posted:Dave Roberts standing there with a bowl full of brown M&Ms like a dumbass. i appreciated this so much Kevlar v2.0 posted:If you're an introverted and private celebrity, then maybe Los Angeles isn't the city for you. Are you being serious? LA is absolutely the most desirable location for introverted/private sports celebrities. We see famous people all the time around here, we don't give them poo poo. It's LA rule #1. Also, famous people don't go to where tourists visit here so they live very nice relatively anonymous lives.
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lmao ohtani is still signing with the Dodgers, a guy isn't going to turn down a gazillion dollar contract with a super team in the place he wants to live because a manager said something.
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He probably isn't wrong on this. I can't believe people think the Cubs are going to actually pay Ohtani money. Anyway, this rumor has gone around by a bunch of reporters. 1 year of Glasnow for like 5 of Morel seems dumb but they need pitching and don't want to spend. https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/1732125432378437789
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Niwrad posted:He probably isn't wrong on this. I can't believe people think the Cubs are going to actually pay Ohtani money. If the Rays are moving on from a guy you probably don't want him.
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Niwrad posted:He probably isn't wrong on this. I can't believe people think the Cubs are going to actually pay Ohtani money. "One year" of Glasnow So like 12 starts
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Yeah but it makes the Cubs look like they're trying and they don't have to commit to 4-5 years of a real starter.
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Intruder posted:"One year" of Glasnow Yeah it would already be kinda iffy to trade five controlled years of a young guy who just hit 25 HR's for a SP rental - even an ace - but this is for a guy who'll maybe give you 100ish IP before his elbow inevitably implodes again and Assad gets shuffled back into the rotation. Cubs have been all over the Glasnow trade rumors and even excluding the new Morel stuff I just do not get it, go out and get an FA who might actually give you a full season of innings! Glasnow isn't even all that cheap, he's owed like $25M next year!!!
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Yeah but again even ignoring the Morel stuff, why the hell do the Cubs want Glasnow? They've been connected to trading for him for weeks now by multiple sources and it makes no sense. He's not cheap, he's not a long term solution, and while he is a TOR when healthy, he's never loving healthy. Trading for him is just giving the Rays a bunch of prospects so they can salary dump a broken pitcher, it makes zero goddamn sense.
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Ideally you don't have to give up anything of real note to trade for him and you're basically making a decently-high-upside gamble on him being healthy by the time the playoffs roll around — the kind of piece you add in addition to an actual reliable TOR guy. If you wanna take a pessimist's view then they're lining him up for when we fail to land any of the big name free agents so they can go "Look, if you squint it's kind of an ace!"
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xbilkis posted:Ideally you don't have to give up anything of real note to trade for him and you're basically making a decently-high-upside gamble on him being healthy by the time the playoffs roll around — the kind of piece you add in addition to an actual reliable TOR guy. If you wanna take a pessimist's view then they're lining him up for when we fail to land any of the big name free agents so they can go "Look, if you squint it's kind of an ace!"
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Sydin posted:Yeah but again even ignoring the Morel stuff, why the hell do the Cubs want Glasnow? They've been connected to trading for him for weeks now by multiple sources and it makes no sense. He's not cheap, he's not a long term solution, and while he is a TOR when healthy, he's never loving healthy. Trading for him is just giving the Rays a bunch of prospects so they can salary dump a broken pitcher, it makes zero goddamn sense. Sub 3 FIP guys don't grow on trees, even the ones that are injury prone, and they won't have to give up that much to get him.
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:This is the same team that traded Eloy at peak prospect status for fuckin Jose Quintana Eloy has been doing the Byron Buxton speedrun of insanely talented young OF slugger who can never actually play meaningful time because his legs are made of hopes and dreams. Like it's bad enough that even with his mediocre pitching on the Cubs Quintana put up more WAR with them (7.2 fWAR) than Eloy has his whole career with the Sox (5.4). xbilkis posted:Ideally you don't have to give up anything of real note to trade for him and you're basically making a decently-high-upside gamble on him being healthy by the time the playoffs roll around — the kind of piece you add in addition to an actual reliable TOR guy. If you wanna take a pessimist's view then they're lining him up for when we fail to land any of the big name free agents so they can go "Look, if you squint it's kind of an ace!" The Rays are going to demand a king's ransom for him because they're the Rays, and betting on Glasnow's health in any capacity is a clown shoes-rear end bet.
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but but both these teams admitted to having met with him!! https://twitter.com/ThomasHall85/status/1732174094085292109
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Sydin posted:Eloy has been doing the Byron Buxton speedrun of insanely talented young OF slugger who can never actually play meaningful time because his legs are made of hopes and dreams. Like it's bad enough that even with his mediocre pitching on the Cubs Quintana put up more WAR with them (7.2 fWAR) than Eloy has his whole career with the Sox (5.4). Well yeah we know that NOW but back when he was a highly touted prospect they basically gave him away.
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bawfuls posted:but but both these teams admitted to having met with him!! Don't you dare group the Jays in with the rule breaking Dodgers
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