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I'm not a fan of AoS and don't keep up with it at all so I'd never seen TAHLIA VEDRA, LIONESS OF THE PARCH, but as soon as I did, I knew. 
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AndyElusive posted:I voted Angron because, how could I fuckin not? Yeah. I'd have gone Fulgrim too had it have been there.
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Dec 6, 2023 17:05
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How tf is fulgrim not on here?
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Jack B Nimble posted:I'm not a fan of AoS and don't keep up with it at all so I'd never seen TAHLIA VEDRA, LIONESS OF THE PARCH, but as soon as I did, I knew. Ya that's baller. TOO BAD THIS IS THE 40k THREAD. I kid, I kid. That poo poo is off the chain.
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Dec 6, 2023 17:05
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The big points models at low points games thing happens because of what games-workshop is selling and how expensive it is to build out some lists. And how long it takes to paint up everything as a secondary reason. Like sure if I ditched the 2nd rogal dorn it would free up a ton of points to do something like quote:Imperium - Astra Militarum - My Cadians - [1000pts] I'd still need to get an Ursula Creed thou.
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Dec 6, 2023 17:06
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I was boring and just voted for the WH+ Kasrkin. v v
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Dec 6, 2023 17:17
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Personally I'd rather play against one Rogal Dorn that two at 1k; one makes a nice center piece unit but two is a little oppressive and feels like a "slant list". I don't know what to do about 4 Chimeras being a slant list a 1k if I want to play armored fist Imperial Guard.
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Dec 6, 2023 17:18
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Chimeras are fine, their shooting is meh (they really need to synergize with orders/strats), and they should firmly be regarded as 'dedicated transports' and not as tanks.
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Dec 6, 2023 17:38
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Cooked Auto posted:https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/12/06/miniature-of-the-year-2023-vote-for-your-favourite-model-today/ None of them can upset the winner in my heart: The Sundae Titan 
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If you wanted to run some 500 point games with unit restrictions to help things stay a bit more balanced at such a low level, what would y'all consider reasonable? I was thinking: - No Epic Heroes - Max 1 vehicle - No Super-heavy (no Knights) Got potentially a group of 4 newish players and want to start small but already have a smattering of models and don't want to require everyone buy/build a Combat Patrol. 1000 points is doable but still a ways away, so I was thinking some 500 point games to get our feet wet. Thoughts?
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Dec 6, 2023 17:54
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I decided to be the most insufferable jerk a few weeks back during a 1000+1000 doubles tournament and played a lychguard brick plus a transcendent c'tan with the fnp enhancement. the only thing that permanently died the entire tournament was the c'tan. Was fun but I'm kinda glad those combos are getting yeeted.
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Dec 6, 2023 18:01
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Super Waffle posted:If you wanted to run some 500 point games with unit restrictions to help things stay a bit more balanced at such a low level, what would y'all consider reasonable? I was thinking: Those all sound good, I wonder if you could say "1 non epic HQ, at least 1 Battleline". But now we're just reinventing Force Org.
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Dec 6, 2023 18:11
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Jack B Nimble posted:I'm not a fan of AoS and don't keep up with it at all so I'd never seen TAHLIA VEDRA, LIONESS OF THE PARCH, but as soon as I did, I knew. By Sigmars hairy balls that is magnificent
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Dec 6, 2023 18:11
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This model of the year voting needs pictures or links so I can easily/quickly see all the things 
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Dec 6, 2023 18:14
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Jack B Nimble posted:Those all sound good, I wonder if you could say "1 non epic HQ, at least 1 Battleline". But now we're just reinventing Force Org. I think at the end of the day a gaming system that doesnt want to be dominated by independently strong units either needs internal synergies or external requirements. 10th Edition doesnt really have much of either of those, which is why theres so much emphasis on tanks and epic heroes.
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Dec 6, 2023 18:17
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tangy yet delightful posted:This model of the year voting needs pictures or links so I can easily/quickly see all the things just vote angron, the time has come for him to actually win something
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Dec 6, 2023 18:17
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Voted Terminators because I enjoyed painting them  .
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Dec 6, 2023 18:25
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DO IT TO IT posted:just vote angron, the time has come for him to actually win something So far I'm leaning https://www.warhammer.com/en-US/shop/harbinger-of-decay-2023, submit your attempts to influence my vote here goons.
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Dec 6, 2023 18:32
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Kaal posted:I think at the end of the day a gaming system that doesn’t want to be dominated by independently strong units either needs internal synergies or external requirements. 10th Edition doesn’t really have much of either of those, which is why there’s so much emphasis on tanks and epic heroes. I agree, and it bums me out, I dislike seeing the supreme faction head in every dang game.
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Dec 6, 2023 18:58
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Submitted Rogal Dorn battle tank because tank
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Dec 6, 2023 19:06
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There were some really good models in 2023 but yeah, I went Angron. Really looking forward to painting mine once I build up the courage
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Kaal posted:I think at the end of the day a gaming system that doesnt want to be dominated by independently strong units either needs internal synergies or external requirements. 10th Edition doesnt really have much of either of those, which is why theres so much emphasis on tanks and epic heroes. We haven't even had a full year of tanks mattering again and people are sick of it...
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Dec 6, 2023 19:11
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BadLlama posted:Submitted Rogal Dorn battle tank because tank On the one hand this is a very convincing argument, on the other hand missing a bottom should automatically disqualify the miniature.
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Dec 6, 2023 19:25
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Lostconfused posted:On the one hand this is a very convincing argument, on the other hand missing a bottom should automatically disqualify the miniature. The Rogal Dorn is a top so it's fine.
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Dec 6, 2023 19:26
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They've fixed the BA and other indices: Blood Angels: Brother Corbulo can now lead Assault Intercessors and Sternguard Veterans Captain Tycho can now lead Assault Intercessors, Company Heroes, or Sternguard Veterans Commander Dante can now lead Assault Intercessors with Jump Packs Death Company Marines with Jump Packs can now be led by any Chaplain that could lead an Assault Squad with Jump Packs Gabriel Seth can now lead Assault Intercessors, Company Heroes, or Sternguard Veterans Sanguinary Guard can now be led by any Captain that could lead an Assault Squad with Jump Packs Sanguinary Priest can now lead Assault Intercessors and Sternguard Veterans Sanguinary Priest with Jump Pack can now lead Assault Intercessors with Jump Packs Dark Angels: Asmodai can now lead Assault Intercessors, Company Heroes, or Sternguard Veterans Azrael can now lead Company Heroes Ezekiel can now lead Assault Intercessors, Company Heroes, or Sternguard Veterans Deathwatch: Corvus Blackstar: Centurions now take the space of 3 models for transport purposes Deathwatch Veterans can now be led by any character that could lead Sternguard Veterans Proteus Kill Team can now be led by any character that could lead Sternguard Veterans Space Wolves Can no longer include Apothecaries Blood Claws can now be led by any character that could lead Assault Intercessors Grey Hunters: Grav Gun damage changed to 2 Skyclaws can now be led by any character that could lead Assault Intercessors with Jump Packs Wolf Guard can now be led by any character that could lead Sternguard Veterans
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tangy yet delightful posted:So far I'm leaning https://www.warhammer.com/en-US/shop/harbinger-of-decay-2023, submit your attempts to influence my vote here goons. That is also the model I chose. Age of Sigmar has better models than 40k.
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Most of the tournament winning lists I've seen are 2-3 of the same vehicle/monster but majority infantry. I admit that I was worried that armor would overwhelm the new edition but it doesn't seem to have happened.
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Dec 6, 2023 20:06
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:I threw my vote away on Khorne Berserkers because they're awesome I did this for Chaos Warriors. I don't need huge centrepiece characters, I just want really well designed core troops for every army! TBF they have gotten better at this, resculpting a lot of the oldest/worst offenders.
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Dec 6, 2023 20:38
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I'd say besides Lord Solar the guard don't even have an epic hero, at least nobody even mentions commissar Gaunt. Everyone else is like 5 or 10 points more than Cadian Castellan which looks like the baseline leader unit for Guard that isn't a full sized command squad.
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Thoughts on the Battle Sister Castigator Tank armament? I bought two and built the first one with a battle cannon, was thinking of building the second one as autocannons but really the battle cannon seems like it is just as good or even better in some situations at wiping infantry than the auto cannons, while keeps their anti vehicle/monster rules...
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Battle Cannon is generally better than Autocannon into most things. But it's pretty easy to magnetize (or even just dry fit?) the weapon options anyway.
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3 Action Economist posted:Dark Angels: Dark Angels shouldn't have bladeguard, sternguard, or vanguard vets. I will fight about this.
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Yeah but the autocannon inflicts a bonus AP pip to all subsequent shooting at the same target. If the above poster had 4 chimeras with heavy bolters and they went from AP 1 to AP2...well that would do a lot of work against MEQ
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Dec 6, 2023 21:08
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I wish I could run Chimera's in my Sister Army.
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Tangy Zizzle posted:Yeah but the autocannon inflicts a bonus AP pip to all subsequent shooting at the same target. If the above poster had 4 chimeras with heavy bolters and they went from AP 1 to AP2...well that would do a lot of work against MEQ It does not.
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IncredibleIgloo posted:That is also the model I chose. Age of Sigmar has better models than 40k. I think AoS models are on average better, but 40K is wildly inconsistent between armies. Like, the Death Guard sculpts are IMO incredible, but then 99% of the rest of the marine type models are just dull.
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Eej posted:It does not. I mean it's the unit ability not the weapon, but you can only use that weapon with that unit. Withering Fire
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Tangy Zizzle posted:Yeah but the autocannon inflicts a bonus AP pip to all subsequent shooting at the same target. If the above poster had 4 chimeras with heavy bolters and they went from AP 1 to AP2...well that would do a lot of work against MEQ Autocannons are usually worse than they look because they're in that uncomfortable middle of not enough shots that aren't strong enough
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Tangy Zizzle posted:I mean it's the unit ability not the weapon, but you can only use that weapon with that unit. The Castigator does not have Withering Hail.
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Eej posted:The Castigator does not have Withering Hail. Yes I was responding to the guy wondering about what leman russ he should use. The leman russ exterminator is what I was referring to, and using chimeras with them.
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