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GreenMetalSun
Oct 12, 2012

Kit Walker posted:

These people spend more minutes per day looking at pornstars than they do average women and it has completely destroyed their understanding of what everyone else looks like

Every time someone tells me that some media property is overrun with gigantic muscular butches I get excited and every time I get my heart broken.

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Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

PurpleXVI posted:

I understand the anger, but most of the Russian artists I know are the sort of people who, when they could not be paid for commissions due to sanctions, decided they would take payment in receipts of payments to Ukrainian charities, which I think is probably about the most respectable course of action in that situation.

Of course, also a contingent of shitheads who decided to defend the invasion, but I think if there's any group of Russians likely to be relatively plugged into international discourse and to have a sizeable chunk of them breaking free from Russian state propaganda, it would be artists who are active online and interacting with multinational communities.

i don't understand the anger. Collective punishment is bad. Why is this so hard for liberals? It's like this massive grey area. Instead of starting at the top of society, nah lets blame from the bottom up.

PurpleXVI
Oct 30, 2011

Spewing insults, pissing off all your neighbors, betraying your allies, backing out of treaties and accords, and generally screwing over the global environment?
ALL PART OF MY BRILLIANT STRATEGY!

Regarde Aduck posted:

i don't understand the anger. Collective punishment is bad. Why is this so hard for liberals? It's like this massive grey area. Instead of starting at the top of society, nah lets blame from the bottom up.

Well, I mean, the original poster is Ukrainian, currently the victim of an attempt at genocide from neighbouring Russia, a country where by all independent attempts at opinion polling, said genocidal war still has majority support among the people.

If you cannot understand why he would say "well gently caress Russia and gently caress these people who don't seem to care about the attempts at killing me, my family and my entire town," I don't know what to tell you.

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)
So what you're basically saying is that armed resistance against state sanctioned genocide is acceptable????????

Skios
Oct 1, 2021
https://twitter.com/PekkaHellman/status/1732298522379026821

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

Regarde Aduck posted:

i don't understand the anger. Collective punishment is bad. Why is this so hard for liberals? It's like this massive grey area. Instead of starting at the top of society, nah lets blame from the bottom up.

I'm with ya for people gettin' weird about russians existing while russian the past two years, but I uh, I don't think it's specifically the liberals

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

PurpleXVI posted:

I understand the anger, but most of the Russian artists I know are the sort of people who, when they could not be paid for commissions due to sanctions, decided they would take payment in receipts of payments to Ukrainian charities, which I think is probably about the most respectable course of action in that situation.

Of course, also a contingent of shitheads who decided to defend the invasion, but I think if there's any group of Russians likely to be relatively plugged into international discourse and to have a sizeable chunk of them breaking free from Russian state propaganda, it would be artists who are active online and interacting with multinational communities.

Hating everyone in a country because of the horrible war crimes their government committed is absolutely not something us Americans should encourage.

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Desert Bus
May 9, 2004

Take 1 tablet by mouth daily.

What fantasy world is this? I don't recognize it or get the joke.

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat
Every day I wake up as a cis white male with the terrifying knowledge that any trans poc is inherently better than me at everything and all I can do is support laws banning them from any activity and hope that slows their rightful rise to infinite power.

EdsTeioh
Oct 23, 2004

PRAY FOR DEATH


Desert Bus posted:

What fantasy world is this? I don't recognize it or get the joke.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Finland

Suur-Suomi; It's some Finnish Nationalist bullshit.

Nobody Interesting
Mar 29, 2013

One way, dead end... Street signs are such fitting metaphors for the human condition.


There are swastikas and SS bolts on the map. That is very nice, normal, and good.

Desert Bus
May 9, 2004

Take 1 tablet by mouth daily.

EdsTeioh posted:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Finland

Suur-Suomi; It's some Finnish Nationalist bullshit.

LOL Finland isn't real. Layers upon layers.

Clerical Terrors
Apr 24, 2016

I'm so tired, I'm so very tired

Nobody Interesting posted:

There are swastikas and SS bolts on the map. That is very nice, normal, and good.

Also "Reichskommissariat Moskau", which you'd think would be an obvious giveaway.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Nobody Interesting posted:

There are swastikas and SS bolts on the map. That is very nice, normal, and good.

Wait till you see their planes.

Blackula Vs. Tarantula
Jul 6, 2005

😤I am NOT Captain_Redbeard🧔

Kit Walker posted:

These people spend more minutes per day looking at pornstars than they do average women and it has completely destroyed their understanding of what everyone else looks like

Yeah this is probably my favorite conspiracy theory. Every hot celebrity? Trans. Every top athlete? Trans. Every brilliant scientist, thinker, philosopher, public speaker? Trans. At some point you just have to ask yourself what you're getting so mad about if everyone doing anything of note is secretly trans. Sure sounds like cis people just suck and are useless

I can field this one. You have to start from the idea that the Jews determine who gets recognition in whatever field they are fixating on, or all of them. So then it's not that trans people are rising to the top of a meritocracy, it's that in order to be famous you have to accept the Jews' bargain, which includes transitioning. Not because transitioning confers some advantage (although they will also say this in regards to sports) but because secretly being trans is the ultimate blackmail material so they can't oppose Jewish control. Every celebrity who dies young either refused to transition and was killed because they couldn't be controlled, or had transitioned, and wouldn't go along with it anymore and was about to speak out.

So it's an excuse for why the antisemite hasn't made anything of themself, they won't submit to the Jews and so they are blacklisted.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Blackula Vs. Tarantula posted:

I can field this one. You have to start from the idea that the Jews determine who gets recognition in whatever field they are fixating on, or all of them. So then it's not that trans people are rising to the top of a meritocracy, it's that in order to be famous you have to accept the Jews' bargain, which includes transitioning. Not because transitioning confers some advantage (although they will also say this in regards to sports) but because secretly being trans is the ultimate blackmail material so they can't oppose Jewish control. Every celebrity who dies young either refused to transition and was killed because they couldn't be controlled, or had transitioned, and wouldn't go along with it anymore and was about to speak out.

So it's an excuse for why the antisemite hasn't made anything of themself, they won't submit to the Jews and so they are blacklisted.

It's loving annoying as hell that pretty much every single conspiracy theory is "The Jews did it." I was shocked and incredibly annoyed that even Flat Earth Theory ultimately ends in antisemitism.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

It's probably one of the oldest conspiracy theories. Along with perhaps the witch panic, and both of them have roots in looking for an outgroup to punish and reinforcing the power of the actual elites of the time in the church and the state.

Stoatbringer
Sep 15, 2004

naw, you love it you little ho-bot :roboluv:

Push El Burrito posted:

Every day I wake up as a cis white male

I was expecting an open palm slam into the VCR.

Desert Bus
May 9, 2004

Take 1 tablet by mouth daily.

Blackula Vs. Tarantula posted:

I can field this one. You have to start from the idea that the Jews determine who gets recognition in whatever field they are fixating on, or all of them. So then it's not that trans people are rising to the top of a meritocracy, it's that in order to be famous you have to accept the Jews' bargain, which includes transitioning. Not because transitioning confers some advantage (although they will also say this in regards to sports) but because secretly being trans is the ultimate blackmail material so they can't oppose Jewish control. Every celebrity who dies young either refused to transition and was killed because they couldn't be controlled, or had transitioned, and wouldn't go along with it anymore and was about to speak out.

So it's an excuse for why the antisemite hasn't made anything of themself, they won't submit to the Jews and so they are blacklisted.

Who are the Jews?

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

poo poo Fuckasaurus posted:

There is an upward creep, which is referred to as the Flynn Effect, but it's only around 2 points per decade or so. It also works in the opposite direction from what you've said, the average IQ is likely to be above 100 by a few points so long as the test hasn't been recalibrated recently because people are scoring higher than they previously did.

E: Also IQ is, as previously discussed, relative to the mean. It would be impossible to estimate Einstein's IQ with any confidence unless you could also estimate the IQ of the average person who lived at the time, which we can't. It's also neither useful nor meaningful to discuss his IQ relative to the modern scales, even if we could determine it, because IQ is barely even a meaningful construct when discussing the scores of two modern people relative to each other. Start rolling back the clock or comparing people in different societies and it becomes worthless immediately.

Also IQ is meaningless as a measurement of general population intelligence and was never meant as one. Everyone ITT should read Stephen Jay Gould's The Mismeasure of Man because it goes into this in detail. It's also a drat good book in general. It's a pity we lost Gould to cancer while Dawkins is alive to bray bigoted nonsense.

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

Desert Bus posted:

Who are the Jews?

For six thousand years, you have been asking, "Who are the Jews?"

It was either the Galt speech or godawful Jeopardy categories

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

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Desert Bus posted:

Who are the Jews?

We just don’t know.

ding!

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Dewgy posted:

We just don’t know.

ding!

And that’s exactly how they want it!

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Desert Bus posted:

Who are the Jews?

If you take the letters of the word "jews" you get J E W S. Now if you remove the only vowel, you get J W S. Now if you take the third letter and move it to first place, you get... SJW!

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)
i've never quite liked the conflation of judaism as a faith, judaism as a racial category, and zionism as a political movement, it seems like an intentional move by bigots ( jewish islamophobes and the usual nazis) to make it into a big ol' katamari ball of People I Don't Like That Are Bad but i'm also not jewish so idk

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

tokin opposition posted:

i've never quite liked the conflation of judaism as a faith, judaism as a racial category, and zionism as a political movement, it seems like an intentional move by bigots ( jewish islamophobes and the usual nazis) to make it into a big ol' katamari ball of People I Don't Like That Are Bad but i'm also not jewish so idk

It doesn't help that the genocidal zionists make those same claims so they can use other jews as a shield for atrocities. It's never used for good reasons

MysticalMachineGun
Apr 5, 2005

Cicadalek posted:

I like the idea that a game could be woke for portraying trans people as violent criminals

For content, this is apparently the caliber of advertisers remaining on Twitter at this point


In a similar vein I keep seeing bumper stickers along the lines of "say hi to your dog for me" ... and, you hosed my dog?

Coolness Averted
Feb 20, 2007

oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

GO HOGG WILD!
🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗

MysticalMachineGun posted:

In a similar vein I keep seeing bumper stickers along the lines of "say hi to your dog for me" ... and, you hosed my dog?

:chloe: those stickers just mean they like dogs and want you to be a pal to yours.
At least that's what I thought. Are they for sale on dogfuckers.com or something?

Waste of Breath
Dec 30, 2021

I only know🧠 one1️⃣ thing🪨: I😡 want😤 to 🔪kill☠️… 😈Chaos😱… I need🥵 to. [TIME⏰ TO DIE☠️]
:same:
I'm side eying the bluey avatar if that's your first conclusion when reading the bumper sticker

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

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MysticalMachineGun posted:

In a similar vein I keep seeing bumper stickers along the lines of "say hi to your dog for me" ... and, you hosed my dog?

Say hi to your probation reason for me

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

MysticalMachineGun posted:

In a similar vein I keep seeing bumper stickers along the lines of "say hi to your dog for me" ... and, you hosed my dog?

That's kind of a morally inept conclusion

Also;

Desert Bus posted:

Who are the Jews?

"Welcome to Conspiracy Theory Jeopardy!, where 'Who are the Jews?' is the correct response for every category!"

tokin opposition posted:

Say hi to your probation reason for me

Are u saying u hosed his probation reason?!

Blackula Vs. Tarantula
Jul 6, 2005

😤I am NOT Captain_Redbeard🧔

tokin opposition posted:

i've never quite liked the conflation of judaism as a faith, judaism as a racial category, and zionism as a political movement, it seems like an intentional move by bigots ( jewish islamophobes and the usual nazis) to make it into a big ol' katamari ball of People I Don't Like That Are Bad but i'm also not jewish so idk

This is exactly correct. While it's certainly fair to think of Jews as an ethnicity as a separate but overlapping group than Jews as a religion, Jews as a racial category is a creation of the Nazis. Of course the distinction between different Jewish ethnicities and expressions of the religion get very complicated and this isn't really the place to get into it, but those complexities don't serve the needs of Zionism or other ideologies so of course they get swept under the rug by zionists and others.

To speak on the distinction of Jewish as religion and Jewish as ethnicity: both of my parents were Jewish, I was raised Jewish, I faithfully attended Jewish religious services and Hebrew school. I have orthodox, conservative, and reform cousins. I grew up practicing Jewish traditions and learning Jewish perspectives. It informs my values, sense of morality, and sense of humor. But I haven't believed in god in a long time, and that's a pretty big part of the Jewish religion. So I'm an atheist, but I'm still Jewish, because it's a religion and an ethnicity (actually a bunch of different ethnicities but again not really the place to get into it).

Turning Jews into a race caused some strange things to happen in nazi Germany. Race science in general doesn't make any sense, but even within their twisted worldview it was self contradictory. They determined whether someone was racially Jewish based on number of Jewish grandparents. 3 or 4 and you were Jewish, this was bad news for you. 1 or 2 and you were mixed, which involved some loss of privileges but if you were otherwise a good nazi you'd be fine. This meant that if you had 8 Jewish great grandparents, who all converted to Christianity before having children, the racial purity law would consider you aryan, despite being 100% Jewish by heredity.

On the other hand, I read a firsthand account from someone whose father had one Jewish parent and one Christian parent, and he was raised Christian, and their mother had 2 Jewish parents but converted to marry their father, and they never knew they were Jewish, they were just as antisemitic as the rest of the country, only to suddenly find out they were Jewish when the time came.

Even the term we use comes from Nazism. There was a lot of anti Jewish sentiment in Europe before the rise of the Nazis, but it was religious hatred, not racial hatred. Jews could escape it by converting. Nazis reframed Jews as members of the semitic race

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mycot
Oct 23, 2014

"It's okay. There are other Terminators! Just give us this one!"
Hell Gem

Blackula Vs. Tarantula posted:

Even the term we use comes from Nazism. There was a lot of anti Jewish sentiment in Europe before the rise of the Nazis, but it was religious hatred, not racial hatred. Jews could escape it by converting. Nazis reframed Jews as members of the semitic race

Yeah that's why I've never liked the "Palestinians are semitic" thing going around as a gotcha because it's literally Nazi race science. "Antisemitism" has never referred to anything other than Jewish people.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Kit Walker posted:

These people spend more minutes per day looking at pornstars than they do average women and it has completely destroyed their understanding of what everyone else looks like

Also the people who haven't played video games without porn mods for years.

goblin week
Jan 26, 2019

Absolute clown.

Hihohe posted:

Moons got nazis, dude

that much is obvious when you see the list of countries that send a man to the moon

Cloacamazing!
Apr 18, 2018

Too cute to be evil

Blackula Vs. Tarantula posted:

This is exactly correct. While it's certainly fair to think of Jews as an ethnicity as a separate but overlapping group than Jews as a religion, Jews as a racial category is a creation of the Nazis. Of course the distinction between different Jewish ethnicities and expressions of the religion get very complicated and this isn't really the place to get into it, but those complexities don't serve the needs of Zionism or other ideologies so of course they get swept under the rug by zionists and others.

To speak on the distinction of Jewish as religion and Jewish as ethnicity: both of my parents were Jewish, I was raised Jewish, I faithfully attended Jewish religious services and Hebrew school. I have orthodox, conservative, and reform cousins. I grew up practicing Jewish traditions and learning Jewish perspectives. It informs my values, sense of morality, and sense of humor. But I haven't believed in god in a long time, and that's a pretty big part of the Jewish religion. So I'm an atheist, but I'm still Jewish, because it's a religion and an ethnicity (actually a bunch of different ethnicities but again not really the place to get into it).

Turning Jews into a race caused some strange things to happen in nazi Germany. Race science in general doesn't make any sense, but even within their twisted worldview it was self contradictory. They determined whether someone was racially Jewish based on number of Jewish grandparents. 3 or 4 and you were Jewish, this was bad news for you. 1 or 2 and you were mixed, which involved some loss of privileges but if you were otherwise a good nazi you'd be fine. This meant that if you had 8 Jewish great grandparents, who all converted to Christianity before having children, the racial purity law would consider you aryan, despite being 100% Jewish by heredity.

On the other hand, I read a firsthand account from someone whose father had one Jewish parent and one Christian parent, and he was raised Christian, and their mother had 2 Jewish parents but converted to marry their father, and they never knew they were Jewish, they were just as antisemitic as the rest of the country, only to suddenly find out they were Jewish when the time came.

Even the term we use comes from Nazism. There was a lot of anti Jewish sentiment in Europe before the rise of the Nazis, but it was religious hatred, not racial hatred. Jews could escape it by converting. Nazis reframed Jews as members of the semitic race

And I would just like to point out that one of three possible grandfathers for Hitler (his grandmom had it going on), and the one he was most like as far as looks were concerned, was in fact Jewish, because I like pointing that fact out.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
There were definitely still persecutions and pogroms of people of Jewish descent who were openly practicing Christianity (the Spanish Inquisition was way more about this than witches) under accusations of being secretly still Jewish, was definitely a thing. That said, the Nazis were openly inspired by Jim Crow era America and the very modern theories of scientific racism and eugenics, which extend from the colonial invention of racism to prop up empire by convincing the miserable exploited proles of the imperial core that they have nothing in common with the miserable exploited proles of the imperial periphery.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

Blackula Vs. Tarantula posted:

This is exactly correct. While it's certainly fair to think of Jews as an ethnicity as a separate but overlapping group than Jews as a religion, Jews as a racial category is a creation of the Nazis.

my fellow ashkenazi I think, lmao, no it's not

like even as a convert I'm still ashkenazi and people both good and bad still notice me being ashkenazi, it's going to be my ethnicity until I die

Runcible Cat
May 28, 2007

Ignoring this post

Waste of Breath posted:

I'm side eying the bluey avatar if that's your first conclusion when reading the bumper sticker

c'mon, who doesn't find Bandit hot.

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Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
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Air Skwirl posted:

There was a cis woman complaining about trans women competing in female skate boarding tournaments, and then when people looked at her record she placed like 55th with dozens of little girls (as in AFAB people who had not reached puberty) placing higher than her. Like, what is the confluence of increased musculature or bone structure the same between an adult trans woman and a 12 year old cis girl that gives them inherent superiority?
Oestrogen binds with the atmospheric nitrogen to increase wind resistance. Once a cis woman or trans man hits puberty the world turns to thick soup. It's why they're naturally gifted at plants and washing things, they're constantly exuding a rich mix of fertiliser and sterilising agents.

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