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Tunicate posted:Betelgeuse is his normal name, beetlejuice is his Truename Technically both are deadnames.
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Dec 4, 2023 19:06
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It's actually spelled Betelstein, not Betelstain.
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Dec 4, 2023 19:21
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Dec 4, 2023 20:04
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Crespolini posted:that sounds like ghosts more than demons
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Dec 4, 2023 20:14
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Reminds of of Taylor Tomlinson's stand up about how her religious upbringing made her masturbation habits weird: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiJnuZ1pn0M
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Dec 4, 2023 20:19
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Grendels Dad posted:Yeah, I'll agree with that. Just wanted to point out that it's not a random sandworm. Chekhov's sandworm
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Dec 4, 2023 20:45
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Keromaru5 posted:If anything, it actually sounds closer to how the Church Fathers understood sin, temptation, and the passions. Demons mostly just plant the thought in your head; the biggest danger is listening to that idea, putting it into action, and letting it become habitual. I've read one who said that it's possibly better to be possessed than to be enslaved to the passions. they use pyrokinesis
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Dec 4, 2023 22:01
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BioEnchanted posted:Reminds of of Taylor Tomlinson's stand up about how her religious upbringing made her masturbation habits weird: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiJnuZ1pn0M If you want a non-funny, crushingly real and depressing take on this same subject, watch the film The Starling Girl. It'll ruin your week! But it's really really really good!
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Dec 4, 2023 22:24
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I liked the similar treatment to Jumanji with the cartoon where the characters episodically visited the Neither-world  
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Dec 5, 2023 21:59
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The Jumanji cartoon was great, and I'm pretty sure was a major inspiration for the sequel movies.
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I'm finally getting around to watching the new Mission Impossible, and while it's good fun I keep stumbling over how silly the MacGuffin is. Like yeah it's MI, stuff being silly comes with the territory, but goddamn having the thing that everything hinges on and everyone is chasing after just be a slightly fancified cylinder key is extra silly. Doubly so since apparently the precise measurements and material makeup of the thing are widely known. It seems like perhaps in any early draft of the script the thing was meant to be a cryptographic key of some sorts that was then changed to be something more tangible. But come on, at least give me some technobabble about molecular imprints or rare isotopes or something. As it stands it feels like the plot could be solved in ten minutes by the lockpicking lawyer.
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Dec 6, 2023 13:19
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Perestroika posted:I'm finally getting around to watching the new Mission Impossible, and while it's good fun I keep stumbling over how silly the MacGuffin is. Like yeah it's MI, stuff being silly comes with the territory, but goddamn having the thing that everything hinges on and everyone is chasing after just be a slightly fancified cylinder key is extra silly. Doubly so since apparently the precise measurements and material makeup of the thing are widely known. Same with Robin Hood, Men in Tights.
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Dec 6, 2023 13:38
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Isn't that explicitly magic, though? Like, come on, Mission Impossible, just say it's magic. Nobody knows the fuckin difference
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Dec 6, 2023 13:55
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They have started filming several of those movies without a complete plots (not script, plots) so they were absolutely making up poo poo as they went.
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Dec 6, 2023 14:11
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I'd say more movies need to take the Pulp Fiction route with macguffins but that probably wouldn't help.
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Dec 6, 2023 14:28
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I'd say more movies need to take the Pulp Fiction route with macguffins but that probably wouldn't help. Future Mission Impossible villains should be after abstract concepts. Just flat out state they have stolen freedom, and try to smuggle it over the border in a silver suitcase.
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Dec 6, 2023 14:42
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Mission: Impossible 3 more or less has an unexplained McGuffin in The Rabbit's Foot. Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning Part 1 has a fancy-rear end 2-piece USB drive be the McGuffin. The Entity pulling a literal Laughing Man and erasing folks on CCTV's in real-time is on the verge of unbelievable but it is a M:I movie.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The Jumanji cartoon was great, and I'm pretty sure was a major inspiration for the sequel movies. I was a little annoyed at how...gamey the sequel movie plots were. My understanding was that Jumanji's world wasn't a game - that's how you interface with it, sure, but when you actual see the world, it's simply an extremely hostile jungle, not a place with objectives and levels and whatnot. Edit: I only saw a couple episodes of the cartoon and don't remember them all that well vs the first movie, so I might be completely in the wrong here.
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Dec 6, 2023 15:07
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I think Jumanji adapts its playstyle and rules to whatever it is being played on; a board game has random events and things happen as you move around the board (i.e., a jaguar bites your rear end off as you trek through the jungle), so in a video game, it sets itself up with levels and objectives, because that's how Jumanji rolls.
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Leave posted:I think Jumanji adapts its playstyle and rules to whatever it is being played on; a board game has random events and things happen as you move around the board (i.e., a jaguar bites your rear end off as you trek through the jungle), so in a video game, it sets itself up with levels and objectives, because that's how Jumanji rolls. And also it adapts what it IS in order to get people to play it.
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Zathura the book is literally a sequel to Jumanji - it changes it's genre because people stop playing it.
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BioEnchanted posted:Zathura the book is literally a sequel to Jumanji - it changes it's genre because people stop playing it. When you say literally a sequel, it made me think you meant, you know, the opposite of literally. But according to wikipedia it is a sequel. Sort of? It says it's a standalone spin-off of the 1995 film. What does that mean? What connections do they have to each other? I haven't seen it, though for some reason I've owned the DVD for two decades. I don't even have a way to play it 
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Grendels Dad posted:Future Mission Impossible villains should be after abstract concepts. Just flat out state they have stolen freedom, and try to smuggle it over the border in a silver suitcase. If you're not going to show it, just go more personal, but like personal to the audience. *tom cruize looking directly at camera* "The villains have stolen you're -yes you audience member- favorite childhood toy, that you lost and thought would never see again, I Tom Cruize will risk life and limb, and kill as many people as I need to, to get it back".
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dr_rat posted:If you're not going to show it, just go more personal, but like personal to the audience. That's just Toy Story 5
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credburn posted:When you say literally a sequel, it made me think you meant, you know, the opposite of literally. The book, because Zathura was a book before they made the movie, is a direct sequel to the book (because this was also a book before it was a movie) Jumanji. In the book some kids find Jumanji and think it's dumb and then they notice a space-themed game behind it called Zathura.
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Baby's first lamentation configuration
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The Priest shows up with one of those origami fortune tellers. "Pick a colour!"
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Morpheus posted:I was a little annoyed at how...gamey the sequel movie plots were. My understanding was that Jumanji's world wasn't a game - that's how you interface with it, sure, but when you actual see the world, it's simply an extremely hostile jungle, not a place with objectives and levels and whatnot. My biggest complaint about the sequel movie is that if it's all just a video game, why even care about the plot? It's just gonna restart at the end anyway. Also, the Lara Croft parody seemed kinda outdated considering the grim and serious reboot trilogy was two games in when the movie was released.
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Something I'd be curious about would be how OG Van Pelt would react to being challenged on the idea that nothing he does is his own choice. He seems prideful enough that the idea of being out of control of his own life might cause him conflict. I also thought the reboot Van Pelt was less interesting, a lunatic with an elephant gun is way more imposing than the weird little greasy man with animal powers. Or a fun alternative idea for the OG Van Pelt - the characters meet him in the jungle but he's relatively chill, because the game hasn't scripted an encounter yet, no one's picked his card. Just "I'll probably come after you soon, but I'm not a boss fight yet. It's against the rules..." BioEnchanted has a new favorite as of 19:44 on Dec 6, 2023 |
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Dec 6, 2023 19:38
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House of the Dragon: why does corlys say gently caress all about his grandsons clearly not being his grandsons? This is loving westeros, lords need heirs, he can't have been so "ah well" when it came to the idea of his son ruling the kingdom only for his name, legacy, and blood to vanish within a generation. He has granddaughters but we see the entire issue with women getting poo poo.
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Grendels Dad posted:Future Mission Impossible villains should be after abstract concepts. Just flat out state they have stolen freedom, and try to smuggle it over the border in a silver suitcase. First they'd have to steal the concept of stealing concepts from Carmen Sandiego. Alhazred posted:My biggest complaint about the sequel movie is that if it's all just a video game, why even care about the plot? It's just gonna restart at the end anyway. Also, the Lara Croft parody seemed kinda outdated considering the grim and serious reboot trilogy was two games in when the movie was released. No one gives a poo poo about the grim and serious reboot trilogy, and also lol given it being outdated is fitting; because it's literally an outdated video game, the flashbacks show the game turning into a cartridge for a fictional video game console around the late 90s, fittingly the heyday of the og Tomb Raider. The whole structure of the game is even implicitly like that of an early 3D era action-adventure game; there's not much of a complex plot or NPC behaviour because most games of that era didn't have room for or just didn't bother with them, and it still has holdover mechanics like limited lives, and a linear plot with defined means of progression. The kids even comment on how old it is when they find it in the school basement, and boot it up anyway out of curiosity and novelty. (and because it beats detention) BioEnchanted posted:Something I'd be curious about would be how OG Van Pelt would react to being challenged on the idea that nothing he does is his own choice. He seems prideful enough that the idea of being out of control of his own life might cause him conflict. I also thought the reboot Van Pelt was less interesting, a lunatic with an elephant gun is way more imposing than the weird little greasy man with animal powers. This does actually come up in the cartoon, where many of the antagonists and side characters are sometimes aware of their nature, though when they figure this out they usually don't get any less dangerous. As I said, I think the sequel movies probably took some ideas from it (or at least extrapolated in the same way) as the artificiality of Jumanji comes up a lot. There's also an episode where the protagonists set a trap and actually successfully manage to kill Van Pelt. ...only for the boy to find himself starting to wear Van Pelt's clothes, sleep in Van Pelt's house and have urges to try to hunt and kill the other players, and start calling himself Van Pelt. And when he finally stops, the original Van Pelt is shown suddenly emerging from the trap unscathed. Pretty much all versions of Jumanji strongly imply the game itself is alive, it's aware, and worst of all, it thinks it's teaching you a lesson. And has very little patience when you try to break the rules. Ghost Leviathan has a new favorite as of 08:21 on Dec 7, 2023 |
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Ghost Leviathan posted:
ah so it’s like internet moderators
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oldpainless posted:ah so it’s like internet moderators More like a railroady Dungeon Master, but same difference.
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Re: the new Mission Impossible. It was fun nonsense, on the whole, great stunts etc as expected. But there was a conversation at the start between a bunch of heads of US spy agencies and the Sec of Defence or whatever. And the conversation is painfully ..fake. Like, they each say a line of a sentence then someone else says the next one immediately. That's now how people talk! It was just so...artificial. Then of course there was Ethan Hunt mask shenanigans immediately afterwards so it didn't matter. But still, was super awkward.
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The Batman All of the masks look kinda dumb, but it only makes sense in-universe for Riddler's to do so. Because he is explicitly a dweeby internet guy. Batman gets exploded at one point and while his suit is shown to be extremely protective, his fully exposed chin should have at least gotten a bit sooty or something. But, nothing. Roblo posted:Re: the new Mission Impossible: Given the kind of un-human psychos that actually run all of those agencies, this is the most realistic part of the movie.
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Bk. posted:The Batman I think he throws up his arms in time. This stops the fire. Speaking of explosions: in the opening confrontation of Demolition Man, Simon Phoenix spills gasoline and teases that he will burn John Spartan to death. This intimidates Spartan enough that he hesitates, standing in the stuff and all. Then Phoenix lights up the gasoline anyway and all it does is make Spartan drop his gun. Grendels Dad has a new favorite as of 10:33 on Dec 7, 2023 |
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Bk. posted:The Batman I mean if you're going to point out cases where the suit protects him way more than it should, the bit where he eats poo poo on that bridge while using the wing suit should by rights have left him dead or paralysed.
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Cowslips Warren posted:House of the Dragon: why does corlys say gently caress all about his grandsons clearly not being his grandsons? This is loving westeros, lords need heirs, he can't have been so "ah well" when it came to the idea of his son ruling the kingdom only for his name, legacy, and blood to vanish within a generation. Because officially the history books would claim that all those descendants are his. He and anyone else with half a brain realize what’s going on, but the whole point is that his “legacy” would be secured as he’d be known to be the father of a king and his grandsons are officially recognized as being from his son. The whole point is that people make stupid decisions for power and their name.
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