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I've been kinda going back and forth on the mijo and Warner stuff the last day or so and my reaction is pretty much that Johnson is right, but I don't necessarily mind Warner having his farewell lap either. In January it'll be 15 years since some dude who hadn't played first grade came out and launched 89 off 43 against South Africa, not exactly minnows in world cricket. In a week's time he will have been our opener and a fixture of the team for 11 years. He scored something like 50 tonnes across all three formats and was a pretty good fielder in his day as well. If not for Cricket Australia being idiots he would have copped a 2 match ban like everyone else in history and probably added to that total in the year he missed. Johnson also has a point that the guy was kind of known for being an rear end in a top hat and was exposed as a cheat in at least one game which at least implies hes done it more often when times get tough. Had a number of incidents where he hurt some feelings and almost bashed a couple blokes and has been realistically averaging in the 20s as an opener for the last few years. If you want to be cold and clinical about it, yeah - now's the time to blood the next opener, and probably get a look at their back up since Usman is pretty much the same age - or a couple months shy and likely won't play too much longer. I can't really fault CA for wanting to let him do his thing in games we should win fairly handily in terms of he's a known quantity. I think this is kinda one of those situations where there's no right answer, not really a wrong one either but Mitch has every right as a former test player who played with Warner to say what he said as a cricket analyst.
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BrigadierSensible posted:A question: For whatever reason I've been reading all the clickbait for this stupid drama. Apparently Warner sent some lovely text message to Mijo at some stage and then Bailey said something lovely as well, so it's all bad blood but he's still right. All the fallout is every old boy closing ranks, I can only imagine he'll end up back on ABC Radio. Be interested to hear Paintings opinion but he's likely too smart to weigh in.
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Of course the funniest option is Pakistan clean up Warner, forcing the selectors to drop him half way through his Victory lap
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CA should be using this soft summer to figure out who’s going to open against India next summer. Warner announcing that he wants his farewell tour is just tone deaf, and contradicts everything the old boys have been saying about him being a team player, 100% ego stroking and stat padding. It feels like the tail wagging the dog.
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Dec 6, 2023 09:51
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Looks like Bangladesh have rolled out an absolute minefield for the Kiwis here, 15 wickets on the first day 
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Mister Chief posted:Bangladesh just lost a wicket for handling the ball. 8th in test history. Strictly speaking it was the second Interfering with the Field dismissal, as there isn't an offense called handling the ball any more!
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Dec 6, 2023 13:49
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What did he actually do? Pick it up and throw it back? Kick it away?
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Dec 6, 2023 13:59
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goatface posted:What did he actually do? Pick it up and throw it back? Kick it away? Bounced near the stumps and swatted it away.
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Dec 6, 2023 14:03
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https://twitter.com/CricCrazyJohns/status/1732304521584636050
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Dec 6, 2023 14:04
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I'm region locked from that video apparently. e - From some more reading, it seems like a stupid thing to do in any form of the game or training. Why condition yourself to do an illegal action? goatface fucked around with this message at 14:13 on Dec 6, 2023 |
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Dec 6, 2023 14:09
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That is honestly bizarre. What on earth was he doing? I can understand an instinctive reaction to swat the ball away if it’s giving towards the stumps, but this was well wide and bouncing away. I know it’s kinda dumb and reactionary to assume someone getting out strangely like that is a gaming thing, but man. Occam’s razor is all over that poo poo
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Dec 6, 2023 14:23
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Spedman posted:CA should be using this soft summer to figure out who’s going to open against India next summer. Warner announcing that he wants his farewell tour is just tone deaf, and contradicts everything the old boys have been saying about him being a team player, 100% ego stroking and stat padding. It feels like the tail wagging the dog. Also I 100% agree with this. Bit of a grandpa choice to say that it’s not the done thing in cricket, but yeah, it’s not. I know Warner has had an incredible career, complete with speed bumps, but a farewell tour is pretty egregious. Pick him for the Sydney test and drop him for the others if he wants a farewell. Or hell, just make him a sub fielder in Sydney so he can run around and soak up the crowd.
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Dec 6, 2023 14:30
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BAN 172 NZ 55/5 Ross Taylor must be rolling in his grave
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Is there some young opener that has the potential to be a world class opener waiting in the wings though? Bringing in Renshaw or someone for the sake of not giving Warner his lap feels about as silly as giving him a lap for the sake of it. It’s not like it’s going to be a close series (jinx I hope!) and Warner averaging say 20 is going to cost games.
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VOTE1 posted:Is there some young opener that has the potential to be a world class opener waiting in the wings though? Bringing in Renshaw or someone for the sake of not giving Warner his lap feels about as silly as giving him a lap for the sake of it. At this point it's not exactly important who they replace him with as much as they have a plan to replace him and the best way to put that plan in place is to see how they go in live games.
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BlindSite posted:At this point it's not exactly important who they replace him with as much as they have a plan to replace him and the best way to put that plan in place is to see how they go in live games. Sure, but most of the motive appears to be vindictive against Warner as opposed to actually caring about who comes next.
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VOTE1 posted:Sure, but most of the motive appears to be vindictive against Warner as opposed to actually caring about who comes next. Honestly if Warner had announced today or before the Sydney test that he was retiring, nobody would have said anything. Saying it 7 months in advance, ahead of an Ashes series where everyone expected him to struggle, is a dickhead move. edit; if Broad wasn’t taking wickets and announced 12 months ago he was retiring at the end of the Ashes, everyone would have laid into him too imo
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Hopefully they don't let him retire so he can never commentate.
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Airstream Driver posted:Hopefully they don't let him retire so he can never commentate. Ugh, can you imagine
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Airstream Driver posted:Hopefully they don't let him retire so he can never commentate. Extremely cursed post
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He's already got a contract with fox I'm pretty sure. It's happening.
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Airstream Driver posted:He's already got a contract with fox I'm pretty sure. It's happening.  (ugh, it is true)
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Have Fox even heard him speak? I remember some commercials he was in that were nearly incomprehensible. And those were the best takes!
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MysticalMachineGun posted:Have Fox even heard him speak? I remember some commercials he was in that were nearly incomprehensible. And those were the best takes! He just loves TVs with quantum dots in them
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goatface posted:I'm region locked from that video apparently. I found a mirror here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPy1X6aznw8 Pretty funny and totally unnecessary. 
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Fanatic posted:I found a mirror here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPy1X6aznw8 
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MysticalMachineGun posted:Have Fox even heard him speak? I remember some commercials he was in that were nearly incomprehensible. And those were the best takes! I just had this flash where he was on a panel with Michael Clarke's annoying upward inflection and wanted to suck start my rifle
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Finally the proper cricket has started.
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KajiTheMelonMan posted:Ugh, can you imagine Sadly, yes I can. We've heard Brayshaw. We've heard Slater. We've heard Micheal Clarke. We even heard Warne, (when he wasn't talking about leg spin bowling). How much worse could Warner be?
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Fanatic posted:I found a mirror here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPy1X6aznw8 New Zealand have just lost any hope of a Moral victory (feel bad for the guy though, was clearly a brain fart)
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Handling the ball is an egregious attack on the spirit of the game.
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One side bats, one side fields. Doing both at the same time is an unsportsmanlike hogging of the limelight.
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Lol it's a stupid move but I'm dunno if I would appeal for it unless he did it a bunch of times
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a real chump posted:Lol it's a stupid move but I'm dunno if I would appeal for it unless he did it a bunch of times It’s really bizarre and frankly, if you do something that stupid you deserve to be given out.
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Yeah that’s just dumb, I’d put that under tough cricketing lessons to learn.
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Matt Renshaw looking in good touch here, although as I type this he has just had a big outside edge that didn't carry.
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webmeister posted:At least the Big Bash is mercifully 30% shorter this year Thank gently caress for that I remember it being almost footy season and there was still big bash poo poo on for some stupid reason
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