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Sen's Fortress got nothing on early 1980-1990 games https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDmJNcYLbuQ&t=80s Spikes that you literally can't see until you jump down a screen
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that game really looks like a piece of poo poo
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Dec 8, 2023 06:07
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The only thing that was truly trial and error in Sen's Fortress was the mimic. But it was also loving hilarious so it gets a pass. The Indiana Jones boulders were fine, except for the fact that they still knocked you on your rear end if you touched them from behind, sorry but that's just bullshit.
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Dec 8, 2023 06:22
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ymgve posted:Spikes that you literally can't see until you jump down a screen Haha, yeah spikes/enemies that you couldn't see and were impossible to avoid once you could, were a big staple of platforms and some side scrollers. Just the 100% BS you pretty much expected back in the day. Civv11 mentions it a lot in the biomence review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8RG9uHrvgQ
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Dec 8, 2023 06:49
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Unpopular opinion #8781: 3rd Person Character Action games (i.e. Dark Souls, MGR: Revengeance) control better with mouse and keyboard. You have to have full control of your camera.
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Dec 8, 2023 09:54
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Vic posted:Unpopular opinion #8781: 3rd Person Character Action games (i.e. Dark Souls, MGR: Revengeane) control better with mouse and keyboard. You have to have full control of your camera. that reminds me of one of my unpopular opinions that came up recently. I've been playing Baldur's Gate 3 splitscreen at a friend's place, on controller (which i agree is inferior to m+kb). In BG3 and in most 3rd person games, the mouse/right stick controls the camera only, and does not move the character at all. So what should happen when you press left on the right stick/move the mouse left? The default behavior in these games is that it causes the camera to move to the right, and since it is constantly pointing towards the character, that causes the camera to rotate left. My brain cannot handle this. In my mind, the translational movement of the camera is the "primary" movement, and the rotation is a secondary consequence. In other words, the way my brain works, pressing left should move the camera left, which will also cause it to rotate to the right. The further the camera is from the player character, the worse it is for me to try and wrap my brain around the default behavior - and in BG3, the camera is very far away from the character, so I was Not Having It. The other three people in the room assured me that I was absolutely crazy for feeling this way. Most 3rd person games have an option in the menu for weirdos like me to invert the axes, but BG3 does not. I played that way for like half an hour before I got too frustrated - it felt like every single time I touched the right stick, I pushed it the wrong way, even when I was trying really hard to think about it. I did a lot of Zoolander-style 270-degree turns. My friend was able to figure out a way to invert the axis through steam, fortunately. Incidentally, this opinion of mine also applies to the vertical axis, and I also invert the vertical axis in first person games. (Except In BG3, the vertical axis is loving weird - up and down zoom in/out and also slightly rotate it, idk, it's terrible and i wish it had a normal-rear end camera)
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Dec 8, 2023 10:18
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Caesar Saladin posted:that game really looks like a piece of poo poo Item Getter posted:Look up Unicorn Overlord by Vanillaware/Atlus, it was announced a while ago and looks a lot like Ogre Battle. Private Cumshoe posted:Remaster FF8 and make it even more stupid please  Final Fantasy games all feel like there's a good plot in there somewhere, but they have no loving clue on how to write or tell a proper story.
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Dec 8, 2023 12:21
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Vic posted:Unpopular opinion #8781: 3rd Person Character Action games (i.e. Dark Souls, MGR: Revengeance) control better with mouse and keyboard. You have to have full control of your camera. this poo poo is totally crazy. Click click click to attack is insanely unsatisfy compared to thumb pressing or trigger pulling.
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Dec 8, 2023 13:13
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I’ve moved from M+KB over the last five or six years. For a while I just did controllers for action and racing games but now I use them for basically everything that isn’t an RTS/entirely controlled by clicking. I think a big part of that is just ergonomics, I haven’t found a desk where I can get M+KB to play nice with my collected elbow/wrist/shoulder injuries.
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Dec 8, 2023 13:23
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The only games you should be using a mouse and keyboard for are mobas
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Dec 8, 2023 13:32
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Ugly In The Morning posted:I’ve moved from M+KB over the last five or six years. For a while I just did controllers for action and racing games but now I use them for basically everything that isn’t an RTS/entirely controlled by clicking. I think a big part of that is just ergonomics, I haven’t found a desk where I can get M+KB to play nice with my collected elbow/wrist/shoulder injuries. This is true, controllers are more comfortable, but if I want precision there's nothing like it.
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Dec 8, 2023 13:34
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I find it important to kick back and relax while I play games and keyboards aren't conducive for that, they are only useful for gamers who want to lean over and be tryhards and get mad. A big reason pc gamers like keyboards is so they can be abusive over chat messages much more easily.
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Dec 8, 2023 13:44
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That's like saying being in a wheelchair is more comfortable because you get to sit while moving.
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Dec 8, 2023 14:06
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very good point, i take it all back
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Dec 8, 2023 14:07
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It is kinda messed up that keyboard and mouse lets you be precise with looking but not with moving, and controller lets you be precise with moving but not with looking. There should be a way that lets you be precise with both at the same time!
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Dec 8, 2023 14:30
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There was some kind of controller that had a big touch all off the side that was supposed to do that
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deep dish peat moss posted:I used to work with a guy who asked people to call him Spider-Man and he was obsessed with Spider Man and had Spider Man merch all over his desk and sometimes would stand on his desk and leap around the office yelling about how he's Spiderman and even he was cooler than Batman fans He does sound pretty cool, but he's also got no one to blame but himself when another coworker calls himself the Green Goblin and throws his girlfriend off of a bridge.
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Dec 8, 2023 14:34
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Put a joystick on top of the mouse. I will patent and this and make a fortune
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Dec 8, 2023 15:33
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Like the nipple on a laptop?
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Dec 8, 2023 17:02
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They should just make some "gaming" psychedelics that let you think you're controlling the game with your mind. I will patent and this and make a fortune
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Dec 8, 2023 17:28
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A gaming chair, but it has a joystick built into the armrest and it's also a toilet. I will patent and this and make a fortune
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Dec 8, 2023 17:57
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Using a keyboard for games instead of a controller is like using a typewriter instead of a steering wheel to drive a car.
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Dec 9, 2023 02:41
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Caesar Saladin posted:I find it important to kick back and relax while I play games and keyboards aren't conducive for that, they are only useful for gamers who want to lean over and be tryhards and get mad. A big reason pc gamers like keyboards is so they can be abusive over chat messages much more easily. I use a lapboard, but to the second part yeah true
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Dec 9, 2023 02:46
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This debate will end one day as these inadequate peripherals are replaced by vats of orange fluid we suspend ourselves in for true web surfing and videogame immersion
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Dec 9, 2023 03:03
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You can lean back and relax while using a keyboard as long as you're not the kind of person who has to look at the keys while you type
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Dec 9, 2023 03:05
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Whether you use mouse + keyboard or the noob sticks depends really on whether or not you're a widdle baby poo poo
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Using keyboard and mouse automatically sets a game to easy cheater babby mode. Always makes me think of how kids used to go right up to the tv to shoot ducks in duck hunt.
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Dec 9, 2023 03:54
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credburn posted:Whether you use mouse + keyboard or the noob sticks depends really on whether or not you're a widdle baby poo poo I'm a little baby poo poo. I prefer controller
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Dec 9, 2023 04:53
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Widdle babby poo poo idiot here who prefers controller on PC  but only for FPS and action games, I'm not using a controller to play Slay The Spire or Conquest of Elysium 5 or Kerbal Space program* *If/when KSP 2 gets parity with KSP 1 i will be extraordinarily tempted to build an arduino controller setup
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Vampire Panties posted:Widdle babby poo poo idiot here who prefers controller on PC I normally only play action games. Batman, Spiderman, What's his name from Uncharted. It's how I have fun. Being more athletic than I could ever be
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galagazombie posted:Using a keyboard for games instead of a controller is like using a typewriter instead of a steering wheel to drive a car. run on sentience posted:Using keyboard and mouse automatically sets a game to easy cheater babby mode. Always makes me think of how kids used to go right up to the tv to shoot ducks in duck hunt. lmao I love the incongruity between these two posts
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Dec 9, 2023 06:10
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Use a DDR dance pad so gaming counts as dancing.
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run on sentience posted:Using keyboard and mouse automatically sets a game to easy cheater babby mode. Always makes me think of how kids used to go right up to the tv to shoot ducks in duck hunt. If you play a game without two broken arms and a brain injury, youre a fuckin noob
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run on sentience posted:Using keyboard and mouse automatically sets a game to easy cheater babby mode. Always makes me think of how kids used to go right up to the tv to shoot ducks in duck hunt. lol game makers know controllers suck so much they just pretend people hit what they were shooting at if the cursors anywhere in the right 1/4 of the screen. As head of sony's "do what ever random bullshit you have to to make people think controllers aren't just utterly useless for FPS games" department -(sonys larger department with 76 500 employees in it, roughly half of all employees.) I can tell you controllers just down right suck for FPS games and I've lost far many good employees, had to comfort far to many grieving widows and orphaned children, to pretend otherwise. also side note, those old cheap games where if a finger even light skimmed the esc key at any time, the game would just immediately close before you could even comprehend what was going on. No warnings, Press Y to Quite, Do you want to save windows, just gone in an blink.
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dr_rat posted:lol game makers know controllers suck so much they just pretend people hit what they were shooting at if the cursors anywhere in the right 1/4 of the screen. As head of sony's "do what ever random bullshit you have to to make people think controllers aren't just utterly useless for FPS games" department -(sonys larger department with 76 500 employees in it, roughly half of all employees.) I can tell you controllers just down right suck for FPS games and I've lost far many good employees, had to comfort far to many grieving widows and orphaned children, to pretend otherwise. sure, but like 80 % of people play on console
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Dec 9, 2023 07:31
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Mumpy Puffinz posted:sure, but like 80 % of people play on console Yeah, we did a lot of research on that. Apparently that goes back to celestial punishment for original sin. Think we published the research in some theology journal or other.
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Dec 9, 2023 07:40
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An input device and game design working together to let the player do what they are wanting and trying to do doesn't sound like a problem. It can diminish the value of practicing being a human aimbot with a mouse but I think most people playing shoot gun games just want to shoot the guns at the stuff.
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dr_rat posted:Yeah, we did a lot of research on that. Apparently that goes back to celestial punishment for original sin. Think we published the research in some theology journal or other. Bill Gates has alot to answer for
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QuarkJets posted:lmao I love the incongruity between these two posts Think it’s cause I’m talking more about the “typing device” aspect while he’s more talking about the mouse.
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the typing is secondary, its so that pc gamers can more easily type n words in multiplayer games
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