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Honky Mao posted:The bowtie rotates unceasingly the bowtie spins, and ages come and pass, leaving policies that become memories. memories fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the age that gave it birth comes again. in one age, called the end of history by some, an age yet to come, an age long past, a wind rose in the halls of DC. the wind was not the beginning. there are neither beginnings nor endings to the turning of the bowtie. but it was a beginning.
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Dec 9, 2023 03:54
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fart simpson posted:earlier this year the deflation was because because pork prices came down like 20%, truly a paradise...
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Dec 9, 2023 04:01
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I would say the difference between “reformed” liberalism or Fordism is about ultimate ownership and control over industry. In China, the government could nationalize Tencent tomorrow and there wouldn’t be anything restricting them while the US government couldn’t get away with doing the same with General Motors in 1935. The Soviet Union, for most of its history, really wasn’t mixed market, the state guided almost all commerce so I would put in a different category even if they didn’t achieve socialism. This is also different than “too big to fail” where the government has no real intention of nationalizing a company other than to launder its debts. Russia bounces around a bit since it is often permanently nationalizing companies and privatizing others at the same time. Almost all the land in Russia is government owned even though it has a liberal government.
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Dec 9, 2023 04:49
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Ardennes posted:I would say the difference between “reformed” liberalism or Fordism is about ultimate ownership and control over industry. In China, the government could nationalize Tencent tomorrow and there wouldn’t be anything restricting them while the US government couldn’t get away with doing the same with General Motors in 1935. The Soviet Union, for most of its history, really wasn’t mixed market, the state guided almost all commerce so I would put in a different category even if they didn’t achieve socialism. has there been a example of China nationalizing a company? I can’t think of one off the top of my head.
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Dec 9, 2023 05:24
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GlassEye-Boy posted:has there been a example of China nationalizing a company? I can’t think of one off the top of my head. you mean recently?
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Dec 9, 2023 05:44
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they nationalized a bunch of smaller tech companies in the past few years
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Dec 9, 2023 05:46
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crepeface posted:the stuff surroundiing qin gang's demotion is true afaik. i assume there's lots of true facts in the article, but the conclusions have only tenuous connections to the premise or require additional arguments that are left unstated like "china's economy is collapsing" and "not making public appearances = disappeared" if an American reporter isn't able to instantly locate a Chinese person in China it means the government kidnapped them and is going to collapse any day now
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Dec 9, 2023 05:54
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dead gay comedy forums posted:Xi's tenure definitely went leftward and it seems like party discipline and organization became big time topics to have the means to tackle more regional, local things. From a very shallow reading, my guess is that careerists became sort of a given with Deng (as a collateral effect of the new economic organization) but would have to be dealt with once Chinese socialism advanced to a certain point. When you say careerist do you mean a civil servant who's been working and getting promoted in the same field for 20 years or like chinese Pete Buttigieg? I imagine it's the latter, but I'd like to know more about it.
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Dec 9, 2023 06:42
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Maed posted:naw peasants under feudalism worked much less hours than the west does now, it's just degenerating into catabolic collapse FF has talked about it before in maybe the WW3 thread but even calling it techno feudalism is a misnomer because feudalism still had relations and obligations and neoliberalism wants a society where rhenruling class has no obligations
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Dec 9, 2023 07:01
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a relative went to vietnam and like the tankie that they are they went to the memorial museum
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Dec 9, 2023 08:25
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KomradeX posted:FF has talked about it before in maybe the WW3 thread but even calling it techno feudalism is a misnomer because feudalism still had relations and obligations and neoliberalism wants a society where rhenruling class has no obligations relatedly, yanis varoufakis wrote a book and gave an interview about his definition of techno-feudalism. pretty interesting take on it, even though i think i don't fully agree with the argument that marketplace platforms are paramount over actual labor production. admittedly, i haven't read the book and that's my interpretation of his statements. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VatYrw0uqjU
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Dec 9, 2023 08:34
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crepeface posted:a relative went to vietnam and like the tankie that they are they went to the memorial museum Are those captured tanks? Did the imperialists run away frightened like in this cartoon? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5o-6OpYuHk4
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Dec 9, 2023 09:04
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GlassEye-Boy posted:has there been a example of China nationalizing a company? I can’t think of one off the top of my head. China uses different major banks and commercial banks (all state owned) and local government to change ownership of critical industries such as PC hardware sectors and the rare metal sector. Sometimes they just increase the ownership share over 50% which is similar to how some European countries do things.
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Dec 9, 2023 09:39
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China’s deflation worsens as economic pressures mountquote:China’s consumer prices fell 0.5 per cent year on year in November, the sharpest decline in three years as the world’s second-largest economy grapples with worsening deflation. quote:Consumer prices have been affected this year by declining pork prices, an important constituent in the basket of goods in China’s consumer index. Food prices fell by 4.2 per cent in November. Imagine living in a country where the price of goods (especially food) is falling. Dreadful, truly.
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Dec 9, 2023 10:48
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Kassad posted:China’s deflation worsens as economic pressures mount Farmers won't be able to make ends meet! They will pour kerosene on produce to create artificial scarcity!! Millions will die!!!
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Dec 9, 2023 10:57
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Kassad posted:China’s deflation worsens as economic pressures mount crepeface posted:it's time to expand the Ever Normal Granaries to include delicious pork buns it's time. expand the strategic pork reserves
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Dec 9, 2023 11:00
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Kassad posted:China’s deflation worsens as economic pressures mount sounds horrible
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Dec 9, 2023 11:06
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Honky Mao posted:In the dimly lit room, the bowtie lay dormant for years, a forgotten relic of another era. Its once-vibrant colors had faded, surrendering to the relentless passage of time. Dust settled upon its fabric, and the room echoed with the hollow silence of neglect. Then, one quiet evening, as shadows danced on the walls, a subtle hum emerged. The bowtie, like a slumbering creature stirred by an ancient call, began to tremble. Slowly, almost reluctantly, it lifted from its static repose. Threads creaked and fibers groaned as the bowtie unfurled its essence, embracing the awakening. With an ethereal grace, it started to spin, a spectral dance that defied the years of stillness. The air pulsated with a quiet energy as the bowtie, once forgotten, spun again in the dance of a resurgent memory.
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Dec 9, 2023 11:44
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First they seize assets from evergrande to begin a publc housing project, and now they're making food more affordable?! Sounds like a hellhole that's about to collapse!! -posted from canada
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Dec 9, 2023 12:27
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Soapy_Bumslap posted:First they seize assets from evergrande to begin a publc housing project, and now they're making food more affordable?! 0/10 not enough waffen SS vets in national congress
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Dec 9, 2023 12:29
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crepeface posted:relatedly, yanis varoufakis wrote a book and gave an interview about his definition of techno-feudalism. pretty interesting take on it, even though i think i don't fully agree with the argument that marketplace platforms are paramount over actual labor production. admittedly, i haven't read the book and that's my interpretation of his statements. i found his take on de-dollarisation in this vid interesting too (the us would actually benefit from it)
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Dec 9, 2023 14:06
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the average price of Chinese new year cookout fell 25 yuan this year! Xinomics at work!
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Dec 9, 2023 14:10
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https://twitter.com/escalonamar/status/1732016186328744183?t=LTZF3XW9TJbmgfgIlVrnbg&s=19 https://twitter.com/escalonamar/status/1733447201211453744?t=wtt4BLIeumJJ66mzYFvMHg&s=19
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Dec 9, 2023 14:39
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So what did Philippines vote in the recent UN I/P resolutions? And also the same question for Japan and S Korea. Since Philippines is more Catholic than other Asian countries I am guessing along the western camp?
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Dec 9, 2023 15:07
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X-posting from the doomsday thread:OhFunny posted:Canada's surging cost of living fuels reverse immigration young naive liberal finding out real authoritarianism the hard way to own the seeseepee poohbears
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Dec 9, 2023 16:40
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Palladium posted:X-posting from the doomsday thread: Hope she's not coming back to China.
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Dec 9, 2023 16:58
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Palladium posted:X-posting from the doomsday thread: Lol "refugee". We'll grant that status to dumbasses who want to protect murderers from going on trial, but not people our wars have utterly destroyed the lives of and put into real danger. (Admittedly the ring leaders of the Hong Kong protests who had proven state department connections did go to jail)
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Dec 9, 2023 17:03
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GlassEye-Boy posted:Hope she's not coming back to China. even funnier when she "escaped" HK from the evil seeseepee persecution that only happened in her airy head
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Dec 9, 2023 17:04
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GlassEye-Boy posted:Hope she's not coming back to China. Eh, if she reconsiders her ideology after having been exposed to a severe dosage of reality it might be real useful to have people like that back.
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Dec 9, 2023 17:13
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The prodigal daughter begging libs to wise up, but like the oracle Cassandra,
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Dec 9, 2023 17:30
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Palladium posted:X-posting from the doomsday thread: people would rather move back to Ukraine than suffer Canada's bullshit Canada is so expensive that some Ukrainian immigrants are leaving www.seattletimes.com posted:Not long after Russia began bombing Ukraine, Oleksii Martynenko packed his bags and fled Kremenchuk, a once-tranquil but now war-torn city roughly 190 miles from Kyiv. He moved to Stockholm and took a job as a line cook. One year later, as his work visa approached expiry, he relocated to Canada’s largest city.
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Dec 9, 2023 17:42
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crepeface posted:a relative went to vietnam and like the tankie that they are they went to the memorial museum I was there last month and the whole place is a devastating indictment of US atrocities. There's half of an entire floor just for agent orange. And then on your way out you can stop by the gift shop to buy a keychain and a non la.
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Dec 9, 2023 17:49
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lol https://twitter.com/vonderleyen/status/1732638520420741591?s=20 also lol at Xi's Moments taking the opportunity to reply https://twitter.com/XisMoments/status/1732681698679337098?s=20
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Dec 9, 2023 18:39
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https://twitter.com/mike4evolution/status/1732782897227055200 incredible that wang is able to avoid calling the eu idiots in front on their face that day
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Dec 9, 2023 18:39
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Palladium posted:X-posting from the doomsday thread: So this “refugee” from Hong Kong is paying less than 500 US bucks in rent? And she’s complaining about it? That wouldn’t get you anything here In Stockholm. And I’m shuddering even imagining how you would live paying that in Hong Kong.
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Dec 9, 2023 21:11
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Hedenius posted:So this “refugee” from Hong Kong is paying less than 500 US bucks in rent? And she’s complaining about it? That wouldn’t get you anything here In Stockholm. And I’m shuddering even imagining how you would live paying that in Hong Kong. She probably lived with her parents.
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Dec 9, 2023 22:00
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crepeface posted:relatedly, yanis varoufakis wrote a book and gave an interview about his definition of techno-feudalism. pretty interesting take on it, even though i think i don't fully agree with the argument that marketplace platforms are paramount over actual labor production. admittedly, i haven't read the book and that's my interpretation of his statements. maybe it's hidden in his book somewhere, but the main point he's making - that we're past capitalism - really isn't explained well here. im not going to pretend im as smart or as knowledgeable as yanis, but what differentiates the current situation from capitalism? what makes the tech giants so unique? why ignore all the ways their business empires aren't just floating in thin air and very much still have ties to the real economy in various ways? is rentierism something that's not possible under capitalism? it honestly sounds like more of a marketing ploy for his book than a grounded evaluation of the current world economy.
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Dec 9, 2023 22:47
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Hedenius posted:So this “refugee” from Hong Kong is paying less than 500 US bucks in rent? And she’s complaining about it? That wouldn’t get you anything here In Stockholm. And I’m shuddering even imagining how you would live paying that in Hong Kong. You literally get a cage in HK. It's not a joke.
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Dec 9, 2023 22:54
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Gold-priced steel: China’s tech breakthrough shatters Western market dominancequote:Engineers in China are producing ultra-thin stainless steel sheets that once cost as much as gold to import - breaking a previous reliance on other countries to provide the product. quote:China's creation of a domestic industry for high-end ultra-thin stainless steel sheets - called steel foil when they are less than 0.05mm thick - began only a few years ago. Wow. Foiled again. ... I'll see myself out.
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Dec 9, 2023 23:13
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R. Mute posted:i like yanis, i really do. he's smart, well-spoken, charismatic - but my god, he really does embody the pathetic need of the eurocommunist to find an excuse to say "actually, things are different now" to marxism and leninism. combine it with the smartest little wannabe-posh boy of england, aaron bastani, and you know it's going to be annoying. I watched the whole thing and, whilst I'm an idiot, I didn't really understand how hypercommodification of information and 'cloud capital' means we're beyond capitalism. Rather it seems like another Period of Capitalism as productive forces have evolved, not a whole new epoch. Google and Uber are "fiefdoms" not just monopolies? Idgi.
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Dec 9, 2023 23:18
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