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IncredibleIgloo posted:What does [a metallic Speedpaint] do or work like then? I have not had a chance to use them. regular paint. i'm not really sure what the difference even is Prawned posted:I have an army painter skeleton bone primer spraycan, and I thought I was just using it wrong somehow cause it mostly gives dusty/grainy results, whereas the normal hardware store stuff and citadel sprays haven't given me any issues. quote:lots of other complaints about army painter spray primer contact AP, they recalled a bunch of their spray paints
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Mine are from years ago and honestly a couple of them corroded to where the paint formed a tumor trying to leak out of the can.
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Dec 7, 2023 18:39
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I still think it's funny that army painter started out just selling relabeled cans of minwax polyshades during the dipping craze of the mid 2000s and grew into an industry behemoth
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Dec 7, 2023 21:36
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Vincey V did a video about Speedpaint metallics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A6Uq78huwE. tl;dr: he likes them quite a bit.
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Comparison is the thief of joy, but boy do I love comparing my models to the ones done by professionals with decades of experience....
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Dec 8, 2023 16:12
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That mean's you're not looking closely enough to notice the flaws, or looking at your own a bit too closely. Also you don't know exactly how much time and effort went into making them look like that.
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It seems like more of a mental thing where you're too quick to observe your own flaws rather than see what they did well and take those ideas for your own
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Silhouette posted:I still think it's funny that army painter started out just selling relabeled cans of minwax polyshades during the dipping craze of the mid 2000s and grew into an industry behemoth I think this is why I've always been wary of army painter and I have vague memories this was the case but good to have some confirmation. I recall their first versions of their "real" items like paint were littered with problems since they actually had to make their own stuff. But otherwise it always felt like they're just reselling already existing items but that might just seem like the case since they've been playing "catch up" with selling more and different kind of hobby items. I do buy their mixing balls since it's the kind of item where I've had problems with a couple brands before and I'm just sticking to it unless something major changes.
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Chill la Chill posted:But otherwise it always felt like they're just reselling already existing items it's just a shitpost, wood stain is an entirely different thing
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Dec 8, 2023 18:20
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Cease to Hope posted:it's just a shitpost, wood stain is an entirely different thing Weren't the AP dips in the tins actual wood stain (or some form of polyurethane varnish)? The Strong Tone in a tin and Strong Tone in a dropper aren't the same thing. The dropper was a conventional acrylic wash. I remember the AP dip tins giving a super glossy finish, just like if you'd used wood stain.
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Chill la Chill posted:I think this is why I've always been wary of army painter and I have vague memories this was the case but good to have some confirmation. I recall their first versions of their "real" items like paint were littered with problems since they actually had to make their own stuff. But otherwise it always felt like they're just reselling already existing items but that might just seem like the case since they've been playing "catch up" with selling more and different kind of hobby items. Army painter has really good tools and accessories, their hobby drill, wet palette, tufts, and scenery stuff are great. Really like them and never had a problem. Their Air Paints are great too, really like them. Their metallic colors are a lot of fun as well. Have not tried their speedpaints, but their new paint line, the fanatic, might be really good. Will have to try them out.
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Dec 8, 2023 19:22
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Z the IVth posted:Weren't the AP dips in the tins actual wood stain (or some form of polyurethane varnish)? The Strong Tone in a tin and Strong Tone in a dropper aren't the same thing. The dropper was a conventional acrylic wash. they're both oil-based polyurethane mediums but wood stains use an oil that will migrate into wood to color it, either with the natural color of the oil or by carrying a pigment into the wood grain. they naturally have a yellowish cast. they also generally have additional plasticizers that make a tougher coat. the dips are just solvent-based polyurethane with pigments in a clear medium. it's thinner, stickier, faster-drying, and considerably cheaper at the industrial level.
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The only armypainter product I use is their washes, and like a lot of other people find them to be pretty great, they were made to ape the older style of citadel washes and accidentally made an arguably better product. They are the “budget” supplier to the hobby tho, so it’s not really surprising their other lines are either bad to ok.
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Speed paints are awesome with a pretty gnarly “but” Use a separate palette and try to put down your normal acrylic colors first and that “but” goes away.
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I picked up some cheap artists drybrush set at a discount from a youtube link. Got them, they work well, and in a really nice case which includes a moistening pad and some brush cleaner. Using them for a month though I'm noticing some odd bristles coming loose, and one nasty surprise: they smell loving awful! I thought my dog had crapped in the room but it turned out to be the 13.5 size brush. When I told my wife she smelled it and immediately knew "Yeah, that's horse." So on the one hand yep it's natural hair, but on the other I had to bleach them because my painting desk smelled like a drat barn when I use them. Just a warning to all brush lickers out there.
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I am brand new to painting and I am clearly doing it wrong. I read about Citadel contrast paints and they sounded more beginner-friendly than regular ones (not needing to be thinned, getting stuff covered in one step) so I got some of those. I am painting some Adeptus Titanicus titans and I sprayed them with Citadel Wraithbone primer, and it looks like they have a good coat, but when I brush them with the contrast paint it kind of beads up like water on glass, and doesn't spread smoothly. I've used blue and black contrast paint and both have behaved similarly. I shook the primer a whole lot before spraying and I shook the paint before brushing it on. Any idea what I'm doing wrong here?
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Dec 9, 2023 00:44
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How long did you wait after you spray primed?
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Spanish Manlove posted:How long did you wait after you spray primed? Half an hour, 45 minutes maybe, on the initial attempt? But I tried again after a few hours and it did the same thing.
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That sometimes happens to small parts of my models as well, same primer, and also using contrast paints. I just keep brushing away? The beads eventually begin to spread out and form a normal layer. I think it's due to a much stronger primer coat that becomes too sleek for paint to set? Maybe someone more knowledgeable can explain. Springfield Fatts posted:I picked up some cheap artists drybrush set at a discount from a youtube link. Got them, they work well, and in a really nice case which includes a moistening pad and some brush cleaner. Using them for a month though I'm noticing some odd bristles coming loose, and one nasty surprise: they smell loving awful! I thought my dog had crapped in the room but it turned out to be the 13.5 size brush. When I told my wife she smelled it and immediately knew "Yeah, that's horse." So on the one hand yep it's natural hair, but on the other I had to bleach them because my painting desk smelled like a drat barn when I use them. Just a warning to all brush lickers out there. Interesting. I've been using my Army Painter dry brush set and didn't notice any smell after a few hours of use, at least so far. I think mine are made out of goat hair. Can anyone with goats and horses confirm? Cardboard Fox fucked around with this message at 02:21 on Dec 9, 2023 |
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Glossy finishes give you a surface that's too smooth for paint to get any grip onto. Think water beading up on a raincoat.
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So did I get the wrong primer? I thought Wraithbone was what GW recommended for use with contrast paint. If the beading is normal and I just need to keep brushing at it until it smooths out, I can do that, but since I'm totally ignorant of all this stuff I figured better to ask.
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Rules I was taught for spray priming: shake hard for 3 minutes make sure can is warm don't do it in high humidity let it dry for 24 hours
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Either the primer was a bad batch or maybe something went wrong when you sprayed it on. I forget if layers that are too thick and dry slowly can get more of a glossy finish. Posting some pictures might help us diagnose
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Ominous Jazz posted:i will update this thread with what i do!!! I started with this mini because I liked his details and personality. I'm real happy with it! i've been learning to control the speed painters paint better. (i intend to get away from speed painters paint)   I still need to give him a little base. I've been experimenting with basing with some mixed success     besides, a snowy environment doesn't really fit him.
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Ominous Jazz posted:I started with this mini because I liked his details and personality. I'm real happy with it! i've been learning to control the speed painters paint better. (i intend to get away from speed painters paint) He is looking great!
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That snowy base is awesome!
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Is it me or does the Vallejo grey primer look white?
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Lostconfused posted:Is it me or does the Vallejo grey primer look white? Yeah, I would say their grey primer is closer to grey seer as opposed to mechanics standard .
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I'm sorry if I have a dumb question but I have a bit of space now and I want to start painting but not sure how I should store my spray paint cans. It's too hot in the summer to store them in the garage. Is it okay to keep them in a bin in my room at a reasonable temperature without worrying about giving myself (more) brain damage?
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thin blue whine posted:I'm sorry if I have a dumb question but I have a bit of space now and I want to start painting but not sure how I should store my spray paint cans. It's too hot in the summer to store them in the garage. Is it okay to keep them in a bin in my room at a reasonable temperature without worrying about giving myself (more) brain damage? yea, its 100% safe to store aerosol cans anywhere inside that isnt inside of/next to/on top of a heat source.
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or somewhere they're likely to be punctured they don't offgas or anything like that, though. I can't think of anything in the hobby that is a danger in a sealed container other than flammability/explosive risks
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How do I get the paint thin enough for glazing without it pooling into a single drop when it leaves the brush.
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Lostconfused posted:How do I get the paint thin enough for glazing without it pooling into a single drop when it leaves the brush. Vallejo glaze medium. Hands down the best poo poo for this kind of application.
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My Spirit Otter posted:yea, its 100% safe to store aerosol cans anywhere inside that isnt inside of/next to/on top of a heat source. Cease to Hope posted:or somewhere they're likely to be punctured cool thanks
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Lostconfused posted:How do I get the paint thin enough for glazing without it pooling into a single drop when it leaves the brush. I thin exclusively with water, and the trick for controlling the glaze is to wick the majority off onto a paper towel before applying to the mini. It's all about having a controllable amount to work with on your brush.
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Radiation Cow posted:I thin exclusively with water, and the trick for controlling the glaze is to wick the majority off onto a paper towel before applying to the mini. It's all about having a controllable amount to work with on your brush. This was the huge eye opener for me when I learnt to glaze, you’re putting on the smallest amount of thinned paint with each pass, if it’s pooling or being thick in any way, you need to remove more off your brush.
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I think it applies to all paint consistencies. Having the bare minimum of paint on your brush is one of the ways of fast-tracking brush control, because you're not fighting paint splooging everywhere. And then you can focus on brush pressure, tip placement and all that other good stuff. But yeah, if your paint is pooling during glazing, you need less paint. Applying a very thin, controllable layer also means that it dries super-quickly, so you can put on multiple layers relatively quickly without the need for a hair dryer or anything.
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Lostconfused posted:How do I get the paint thin enough for glazing without it pooling into a single drop when it leaves the brush. Lahmian medium imo is superior to vallejo glaze (though pricier). Also like others have said, you really only need the bare minimum of paintf if you're glazing. Your brush shouldn't look "filled" at all. If you're mixing paint and medium/water, wash your brush and re-load after you're done mixing. Resist the urge to use the leftovers on your brush on the model.
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Lostconfused posted:How do I get the paint thin enough for glazing without it pooling into a single drop when it leaves the brush. The same way you do everything in this hobby: You watch Vince Venturella's incredibly detailed 20 minute video about it that answers all your questions and then you do it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEcDL8mLZzo
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I forgot to varnish after applying Dirty Down Rust effect. Turns out that putting GSW Frost effect on top of it gives a very heavy layered look to it.
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