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I wouldn't mind if 1 patch focused on the Herta station. Maybe give us a couple more floors. Bouncing between Belobog and the Luofu is getting old. Though I do appreciate the Fight Club being a permanent event. It's fun.
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ruining a fantastical space adventure story for myself by interpreting everything in the most soulless and unromantic way possible, lmao
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are you actually able to unlock that door that needs 3 clearance keys on the station?
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GateOfD posted:are you actually able to unlock that door that needs 3 clearance keys on the station?
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I want a imaginary unit that isn't yukes
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Simply throw thousands of dollars into the gacha hole until welt shows up? ezpz
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Just pull for Ratio. That's my plan.
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Meowywitch posted:I want a imaginary unit that isn't yukes Seems like doing this would interfere with throwing yellow weaknesses on enemies as a joke, so maybe next year they'll come up with something. It took entirely too long for the game to let me read the ghost bbs, terrible design. I don't even want to do these quests, I just wanna read the ghostpage.
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Most of the hardest enemies in the game are IMG weak. It's like the best dps element in the game.
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NeonPunk posted:Am I the only one who's bored with the Xianzhou? I honestly don't want to see any other event involving them for a while. There's a whole universe out there! We've already went on that whole silly saying goodbyes to everybody thing and yet we're still sticking around. Yeah, I've been tired of them before the story even wrapped up. Fantasy China with a micron thin paint of sci-fi didn't grab me at first, and the glimpses of a better story that they didn't stick the landing with were enough to just make me kind of hate the place. I love going back to Herta Space Station and to Jarilo VI, but I wouldn't be upset if we never went back to the Luofu ever again.
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messing around with Argenti on auto stuff, while in general he'll 90 ult on trash and save to 180 for elites, whenever a grizzly drops explodey hands he'll 90 ult to take them out as much doomsaying as I heard about his mechanics and auto pre-release, they really went out of their way to just make him Good instead
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Dec 10, 2023 19:55
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I don't thiiiiink anyone said Argenti was bad pre-release, just that his mechanics are very boring. He's just a grown-up Destruction Trailblazer (physical, aoe attacks, choice between two ults).
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yeah I'm just saying I saw a lot of worry about how his mechanics would work with auto and it's cool that they addressed a lot of issues one could conceivably have about it
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It feels like they've been doing a lot of work to make auto better in general, and it's welcome.
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A lot of people don't like Argenti. There was a lot of doom and gloom around him before release. And a lot of people don't like 1.5 at all. I'm having a great time.
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NeonPunk posted:Am I the only one who's bored with the Xianzhou? I honestly don't want to see any other event involving them for a while. There's a whole universe out there! We've already went on that whole silly saying goodbyes to everybody thing and yet we're still sticking around. It’s the least interesting of the three so far and has been going on the longest
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1.5 and 1.6 feature some fine characters but I gotta save for the 2.x cycle 
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I like Argenti cause I'm a simp for pretty men
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I want to see more of the Xianzhou but not the Luofu itself. Lemme see some hosed up space zombie ships MHY
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Violet_Sky posted:I like Argenti cause I'm a simp for pretty men I whaled a bit for his LC. I'm going to make him great.
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I’m usually not a fan of his archetype, but him hitting on the plant and March/ my female MC was great
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yeah he's a weird dork pretty boy and he does space races and cool hero poo poo for beauty and now I like him
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Eej posted:I don't think you're supposed to go into this with a Western lens and be like Imperialism, bad! Capitalism, bad! While I agree that Honkai Star Rail has no particular desire to say anything, I'm not a fan of blaming it on Asian culture. Arknights is another Chinese game that is quite explicitly about how Imperialism and Capitalism are bad. It's not that Asian culture is incapable of criticizing these things, it's just that Mihoyo specifically just want to tell a dumb fantasy story and not think about politics (while simultaneously revealing their politics by accident).
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Lazy_Liberal posted:yeah he's a weird dork pretty boy and he does space races and cool hero poo poo for beauty and now I like him Yeah, his companion mission made me warm up to him considerably. Not enough to pull for him but he's definitely "yeah maybe during a rerun" material.
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Clarste posted:While I agree that Honkai Star Rail has no particular desire to say anything, I'm not a fan of blaming it on Asian culture. Arknights is another Chinese game that is quite explicitly about how Imperialism and Capitalism are bad. It's not that Asian culture is incapable of criticizing these things, it's just that Mihoyo specifically just want to tell a dumb fantasy story and not think about politics (while simultaneously revealing their politics by accident). I'm not saying that Star Rail is apolitical. It very clearly has a stance on Tencent-like mega corps. Yes, they provide great benefits to everyone but they're also coldly calculating greedy capitalists at their core. Intergalactic society would break down without them but you can't let them get away with their excesses.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYJpf1M_wU4
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lol even faster than himeko herta
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Traveller posted:It sure doesn't help that Xianzhou people get to poo poo on people with disabilities seemingly without consequence, and the cycle might just repeat with the young blind girl because there won't be a Trailblazer around to chase off bullies forever. Yeah, hopefully they come back to that girl in a future event, because for all we know she only had two people looking out for her, us and Dan Shu, and with us traveling the galaxy and Dan Shu gone, sure seems like she's hosed! Clarste posted:While I agree that Honkai Star Rail has no particular desire to say anything, I'm not a fan of blaming it on Asian culture. Arknights is another Chinese game that is quite explicitly about how Imperialism and Capitalism are bad. It's not that Asian culture is incapable of criticizing these things, it's just that Mihoyo specifically just want to tell a dumb fantasy story and not think about politics (while simultaneously revealing their politics by accident). Yeah, agreed. I think they have a lot to say, but they're not going to make it completely obvious. I actually think the Sumeru arc in Genshin was them being as critical of the Chinese government as they dared, particularly Nilou's story quest, but that's just my read on it
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I need to find an er rope for him. Maybe even Vonwacq. 
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Space Station > Luofu > Belobog IMO That's largely due to the music and "vibes" for the first being great, though. My main gripe about the Luofu is that I feel like they could have done something way more aesthetically interesting with the concept. When the game first came out and I was behind everyone, I had great expectations for what "space China" would be like that weren't met. Also, regarding real-life analogies for the IPC, I think it doesn't really translate to any one specific thing. The specific scenario of "using loans to seize a nation's* assets" is directly analogous to what the IMF does far more than anything China does, but the general "mission" and impact of the IPC isn't the same. And the IPC acts in service of the Aeon of Preservation, so presumably it doesn't just siphon wealth and resources from the planets it "acquires" to the upper-classes in its home system(s). * planets are basically just countries in most sci-fi, seemingly including this
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Clarste posted:While I agree that Honkai Star Rail has no particular desire to say anything, I'm not a fan of blaming it on Asian culture. Arknights is another Chinese game that is quite explicitly about how Imperialism and Capitalism are bad. It's not that Asian culture is incapable of criticizing these things, it's just that Mihoyo specifically just want to tell a dumb fantasy story and not think about politics (while simultaneously revealing their politics by accident). I don't think that's entirely fair. There's a major story arc where you fight against corpo colonialism for belobog's right to self-determination and also a big market revitalization event where you fight to resist IPC influence. There was a lot of dialogue in the market event about how IPC control typically ends up decimating the local culture. Granted they don't go that hard on politics but imo what is present seems appropriate for this type of game.
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Ytlaya posted:Also, regarding real-life analogies for the IPC, I think it doesn't really translate to any one specific thing. The specific scenario of "using loans to seize a nation's* assets" is directly analogous to what the IMF does far more than anything China does, but the general "mission" and impact of the IPC isn't the same. And the IPC acts in service of the Aeon of Preservation, so presumably it doesn't just siphon wealth and resources from the planets it "acquires" to the upper-classes in its home system(s). The IPC is both hilariously corrupt, and also its core mission statement is still pretty hosed. The whole gag is they've created this seemingly inescapable, unaccountable galactic trade regime that all the other planets and factions are forced to integrate with to some degree, all to extract as much value and resources as possible in unquestioned cultish service of the deific personification of unchanging stasis (literally called the Amber Lord), which doesn't give a toss about any of their efforts and just laser-focuses on building its big stupid wall. It's entirely a joke about how messed up the global Western-dominated trade system operates, all ultimately in service to one specific country and its leadership that at times doesn't even seem care to acknowledge how much it benefits from it all. If Trump were still in office, Qlipoth would come off as much more cutting commentary.
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Aeons not caring about their most fanatical followers is an ongoing thing. Qlipoth completely ignores the obscene amount of resources the IPC pools up for them. Lan ends wars without even an acknowledgment that Xianzhou forces are fighting them. Yaoshi leaves 'blessings' that completely upend entire cultures and then skedaddles. The Annihilation Gang is supposed to be forgettable mooks that don't merit Nanook's attention. IX is IX. Then there's Aha, who might care way too much about everything for the bit.
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The IPC is probably just another aspect of China. It's not like China is unfamiliar with capitalism. Also lay off Qlipoth, they gave us a cool spear and control over a giant robot.
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I dont think Qlipoth is ignoring the IPC out of malicious intent, it's more that it does not need nor want physical goods to construct its walls around reality it's like if your ant farm colony built an offering to you out of sticks and leaves - you might appreciate the gesture on some level, but what are you even going to do with them?
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Traveller posted:Then there's Aha, who might care way too much about everything for the bit. Reminder that in addition to the Fools, Aha has also given his blessing to a group that tried to kill IX, and, honestly kinda funny, a group that is actively trying to kill Aha.
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Captain France posted:Reminder that in addition to the Fools, Aha has also given his blessing to a group that tried to kill IX, and, honestly kinda funny, a group that is actively trying to kill Aha. Aha’s basic determination for who deserves blessings is “oh that poo poo is hilarious let’s see how they gently caress it up” and that makes them the best aeon by far.
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Hypocrisy posted:The IPC is probably just another aspect of China. It's not like China is unfamiliar with capitalism. The first give away for that is when the IPC customer support guy whose lovely job is to monitor the Belobog signal has a script that tags all his private messages with deals and sales which is the Chinese eshopping experience to a T.
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Lazy_Liberal posted:i also appreciated that gwenivere's posting career feels like it's supposed to be viewed as a calculating capitalist venture I liked when she ripped into that one fan who showed up and said bitch I am in this for the money and clout and only nice on stream gtfo - content creators should be more like Lil Gui
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