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Shiroc posted:Terunofuji has only had 6 full basho as yokozuna and 8 where he was partially or fully absent. Kisenosato was 2 and 10. Sumo Association has to be pretty desperate to get one of the young healthy guys into the role and actually have their top guys participating. I assume part of why some of them are so harsh on Takakeisho is that they desperately wanted a Japanese Yokozuna instead of the continued total Mongolian domination on top of wanting a healthy Yokozuna in general.
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# ? May 28, 2024 14:19 |
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Japanese Yokozuna hopes ended with Takakeisho Now Kotonowaka is best Japanese rikishi
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# ? Dec 1, 2023 04:40 |
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I still believe in yokozuna SHODAI
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# ? Dec 1, 2023 04:51 |
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Lid posted:I still believe in yokozuna SHODAI that guy was an ozeki. i watched all of it happen and i still can't believe it so loving why not. hakuho was so loving wary of his absurd natural abilities that he did one of the weirdest things in his career in order to beat him.
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# ? Dec 1, 2023 08:21 |
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Marching Powder posted:that guy was an ozeki. i watched all of it happen and i still can't believe it so loving why not. hakuho was so loving wary of his absurd natural abilities that he did one of the weirdest things in his career in order to beat him. At the time as I recall people lost their poo poo over it too, but as far as I am concerned it was a mark of respect; Hakuho himself said that there was no way he was going to beat Shodai all things being equal so he really had to do something unexpected to throw him off. And that is why Hakuho was Hakuho and his final basho was a master class in rear end-kicking.
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# ? Dec 1, 2023 08:32 |
Banana Canada posted:No problem Kenning. It was fun getting it up and running for a whole basho for the first time. I think I would like to give everyone the chance to customise their Shikona (abbreviation) and Mawashi (cell/font colour) for the next basho if you'll allow it during the draft! Oh yeah, this is great, and quite in keeping with the spirit of fantasy. Banana Canada posted:One last nit to pick since it does impact two players' KK/MK standings. My whole rankings are sorted by points and then, in priority order, by all 6 tie-breakers. Aside from determining the winners, I think the rest of your rankings are only sorted by points and then alphabetical? By applying the tie-breakers, Jobbo_Fett holds the Yusho tie-breaker vs Ice Phisherman - both with 47 points. These two straddle the middle two rankings for Makuuchi which I believe is the KK/MK cut-off (sorry Ice!). A few other players would also swap up & down 1 or 2 spots but it would not alter their KK or MK status. For the purposes of goonzuke movement I use points, rather than the ranked order of final standings. The tie-breakers were initially supposed to break ties for the yusho, but generally speaking two people tied for the yusho tend to have the tie breakers in common, so they don't work very well. I might switch to "highest lowest score on your team" or something like for actual tiebreaking next basho, also hoping to introduce juryo picks for KK/MK bonuses and tiebreakers. MalarkeyToboggan posted:Thanks! Hopefully I'll be more like when Terunofuji won from the bottom rank and less like Tokushoryu. Ah yes, you tied with Fluffdaddy in that one, my goonzuke document didn't have you properly highlighted. Khizan posted:I got curious so I went back and looked. I only went back as far as March 2020, because that's the basho that Kenning chose as the Universal Goon Maezumo for seeding the goonzuke so victories before that don't contribute to goonzuke placement. some kinda jackal posted:Had some time this morning so I think I filled out the remaining winners by rummaging through kenning's post history in the OG sumo thread, from newest to oldest. Hell yeah, this is some fantasy history. Lid posted:shoutouts to the ten or so sumo posters who did this year in year out in SAS before it got moved to the Big Men Hitting Each Other forum and exploded in posters It's fun to go back and read the old SAS thread, but I'm glad we got to the punchy forum where we could get so many more people into sumo. I'm amazed every time when 60-70 people sign up for fantasy sumo, and my IRL friends are always astonished at how many people we get. Fearless posted:At the time as I recall people lost their poo poo over it too, but as far as I am concerned it was a mark of respect; Hakuho himself said that there was no way he was going to beat Shodai all things being equal so he really had to do something unexpected to throw him off. And that is why Hakuho was Hakuho and his final basho was a master class in rear end-kicking. I love Hakuho. What a remarkable athletic personality. He's wonderful.
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Fearless posted:At the time as I recall people lost their poo poo over it too, but as far as I am concerned it was a mark of respect; Hakuho himself said that there was no way he was going to beat Shodai all things being equal so he really had to do something unexpected to throw him off. And that is why Hakuho was Hakuho and his final basho was a master class in rear end-kicking. See I refuse to believe it was a sign of respect because while he started far he also did this Over and over and over
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# ? Dec 1, 2023 13:38 |
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# ? Dec 1, 2023 14:07 |
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Anyone have handy that gif of SHODAI being hit in the face with a poorly aimed cushion over and over again?
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# ? Dec 1, 2023 14:21 |
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Average Lettuce posted:I think this was against Sadanoumi? But I can't find any video of that match. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ngou947yYXM&t=433s Aha! This is a Hoshoryu/Sadanoumi henka with a flypast mawashi grab, but the ending is slightly anticlimactic lol (7:13)
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# ? Dec 1, 2023 17:35 |
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I had a ton of fun this basho, even though I mostly just lurk. Thanks Kenning and Banana Canada!
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# ? Dec 1, 2023 18:04 |
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Lid posted:See I refuse to believe it was a sign of respect because while he started far he also did this I think it's like the story of how the best swordsman doesn't need to be afraid of the second best because they can prep for them, it's the worst because they'll do something crazy that catches the master off guard. Shodai isn't the worst in this scenario, but Hak could probably read everyone else and figure out what they were going to do or at least come into the match knowing they'll have a couple possible gameplan a and have a counter for each. But how the hell do you prep for someone that doesn't understand the concept of planning. And Hak was 10-3 vs Shodai so it's not like Shodai actually had his number, it just probably felt super frustrating for a dude like Hak who probably puts in the time and effort to gameplan and have to resort to winging it. Like I can see by Hak standards (and only Hak. Everyone else isn't good enough to worry about this), a win isn't just an offical victory, but being able to impose his will on the opponent and execute his plan. Winning the match by just being bigger, faster and stronger because the opponent prevented him from doing what he really wanted to do probably feels like a last resort and maybe not a loss, but a lesser type of victory. Like more "drat, I screwed up but at least I pulled it out" sense of relief rather than "hell, yeah! I won!".
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# ? Dec 1, 2023 19:00 |
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The extremely funny Tobizaru/Hakuho 'fight' was in the last basho too, right?
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# ? Dec 1, 2023 22:15 |
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Bentai posted:It's an absolute pain in the rear end to find any old fights now. I don't know if this is any help, but some of Jason's fans archived a bunch of his old videos: https://archive.org/details/jasons-all-sumo-channel-archive Also, hi I lurk this thread, but I've watched* the past three bashos and sumo rocks. *Well, watched mostly Jason and Kintamayama's vids
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# ? Dec 1, 2023 22:47 |
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Single Tight Female posted:
This actually wasn't the one I was thinking of lol. But thinking about it better, I don't think it was a henka? Hoshoryu at the end threw Sadanoumi to the stratosphere.
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# ? Dec 1, 2023 23:21 |
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Look at the absolute size of Takerufuji https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDa8GVfAvgU
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# ? Dec 2, 2023 03:37 |
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Shiroc posted:The extremely funny Tobizaru/Hakuho 'fight' was in the last basho too, right? Yeah, it was. Hak's last run had it all; drama, comedy, SHODAI.
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# ? Dec 3, 2023 05:11 |
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Timberjack is a nice bike I was gonna get one but due to a stock level snafu with a shop I missed out and had to settle for my roscoe 8 in early 2020 when stock was impossible to find. Salsa is also just a way cooler brand than trek. It comes with all the good stuff, 1x, dropper, thru axles, etc and that sale price is real nice. edit: i was just in the bike thread how did i get here?
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# ? Dec 3, 2023 06:42 |
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Timberjack is just the new shikona for Hokuseiho
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# ? Dec 3, 2023 07:17 |
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Bentai posted:Timberjack is just the new shikona for Hokuseiho No, pretty sure you are thinking of the one and only Ura with that shikona in mind!
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# ? Dec 3, 2023 09:36 |
This was supposed to be the healthcare story thread wtf. Anyway, SHODAI
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# ? Dec 3, 2023 11:00 |
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Apraxin posted:combining henka chat with 'videos of old bouts are hard to find', here's mainoumi pulling off a hassoutobi, which i don't think i've seen anyone seriously attempt in the past decade or more (whole vid is pretty great) This is pretty great - thanks for sharing it. The bout starting at about 2:02 in this has the most 'footwork' I think I've ever seen.
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# ? Dec 3, 2023 14:51 |
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Former World's Strongest Man Martins Licis has a Youtube series where he goes around the world trying out different strength sports and the current episodes are about Japan. The first was on Japanese stone lifting (which I didn't know was a thing!) but the latest episode is on Sumo. Something that I've at least wondered about a few times is how a pro athlete from a different sport would fare so it was cool to see. He got to join a few practice days with the Tatsunami-beya although it was during a basho so he only trained with the newbies and it's not new info for this thread but still fun to watch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv__i3IQIT0
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# ? Dec 4, 2023 01:03 |
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Just watched that video (thanks, algorithm!), and one thing I found interesting was they showed the rikshis' weight and what I think is body fat percentage - including their weight swings during the September basho. Nearly five and a half kilos gained in a week, then dropped in another week, is pretty amazing.
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# ? Dec 4, 2023 05:31 |
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Nativity In Black posted:Look at the absolute size of Takerufuji It's wild to me that there were such detailed accusations against Oshouma and nothing seems to have come out of it. Definitely soured me on Naruto beya though, they were one of the ones I cheered for because they were supposedly using modern methods and sports science as part of their approach.
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# ? Dec 4, 2023 06:20 |
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Finally got caught up and was surprised to see that I got my first KK in juryo!. I'll do my best to continue falling upwards! (Picking Roga was a bad idea)
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# ? Dec 4, 2023 06:57 |
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anakha posted:Tochi's henka was even more hilarious given that the day before he had a controversial loss that I recall should have at least warranted a rematch. This is also late-career Tochi, with a knee that's more tape than bone, so being henka'd by him means you really, really weren't paying enough attention as he doesn't shift that fast.
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# ? Dec 4, 2023 07:09 |
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Hirayuki posted:Anyone have handy that gif of SHODAI being hit in the face with a poorly aimed cushion over and over again?
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# ? Dec 4, 2023 16:55 |
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He just plucks it out of the air without looking!! SHODAI
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# ? Dec 5, 2023 04:40 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlVq3LhbnUc A cool vid where a guy watched over 11000 bouts and broke down henka usage in detail.
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# ? Dec 5, 2023 23:37 |
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Marshman is a beast.
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# ? Dec 5, 2023 23:59 |
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This is the kind of analysis I want
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# ? Dec 6, 2023 00:22 |
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My team did fairly well, and I am happy to be in the middle of Juryo. Thanks for organising this again, Kenning!
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# ? Dec 7, 2023 15:09 |
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https://packaged-media.redd.it/ybgk...d27df544c7e#t=0 Cant seem to embed this but it's definitely a must see
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# ? Dec 10, 2023 19:22 |
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any of us would do the same
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# ? Dec 10, 2023 20:22 |
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Communist Thoughts posted:https://packaged-media.redd.it/ybgk...d27df544c7e#t=0 god I wish that were me
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# ? Dec 11, 2023 17:13 |
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Ben Nerevarine posted:god I wish that were me Ura or Waka?
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# ? Dec 11, 2023 17:18 |
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pseudodragon posted:Ura or Waka? I was thinking Waka, but really, both are in an enviable position
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwRZc-UKP9A
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# ? May 28, 2024 14:19 |
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Latest Chris Sumo vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcxTT1uFjIM Where he talks about ex-Yutakayama's gym closing down then says he reached out to him twice to promote it on the channel but got no reply and I felt he said it in a way that felt like the two were connected. Then talks about ex-Kotokantetsu who quite sumo because of COVID and he didn't feel safe and he goes on to ask if he wouldn't compete at the height of COVID then why would he go to sumo tournaments a couple of years later when circumstances have changed.
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