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Minera
Sep 26, 2007

All your friends and foes,
they thought they knew ya,
but look who's in your heart now.

Second Hand Meat Mouth posted:

why are you pitting him against other workers

every job has a tangled web of support roles

he is a proletariat, there's no other way to describe his relationship with capital

and if I see any more ohtani slander I'll start pushing buttons

millionaires are my friend. i send jeff bezos a pay check for mailing me items. i love the rich, without whom we will never have socialism.

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Minera
Sep 26, 2007

All your friends and foes,
they thought they knew ya,
but look who's in your heart now.
millionaires are proletariats and joe Biden is the last communist.

webcams for christ
Nov 2, 2005

Xaris posted:

jesus christ, americans ftl. tho i can sympathize

attendance at american symphonies and opera houses has not bounced back from the pandemic at all and you can definitely get good tickets for $50 or less. maybe give that a shot

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

Zodium posted:

my daughter and wives

LMFAO

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003
the upside to polygamy: the harem of babes

the downside: the harem of babes

Griz
May 21, 2001


Xaris posted:

jesus christ, americans ftl. tho i can sympathize

ticketmaster really needs to go away

arena/stadium food prices have always been terrible, all the increase is in the ticket prices and bullshit tacked-on fees

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

webcams for christ posted:

attendance at american symphonies and opera houses has not bounced back from the pandemic at all and you can definitely get good tickets for $50 or less. maybe give that a shot

a half-season (4 show) ticket for the ballet here is $200 and that's for not quite the best seats but the ones right after that

it's a good ballet company, too

e: just dont try to go to The One Ballet Everyone Goes To, the Nutcracker (the new one here sucks anyway, rip the one with the unique choreography and art design by the Where The Wild Things Are guy), the prices for that are loving lunatic

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

I checked out the tix to the beyonce movie thinking it'd be a fun field trip for the old girls but all the tix--early show, senior price, kids price--were $22. :wtc: Are all movie prices that high now?

Last nite when I was thinking about going to the noon show today the seating chart showed that a total of 8 tickets had been sold for the entire theater. :sad:

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

I saw West Side Story at the Lyric Opera House a few months ago & the tix were $50 for first balcony. I'm not paying almost half of that to see a drat movie.

webcams for christ
Nov 2, 2005

Metropolitan Opera rush tickets are $25

JAY ZERO SUM GAME
Oct 18, 2005

Walter.
I know you know how to do this.
Get up.


the Met is having quite an attendance crisis

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

Minera posted:

millionaires are my friend. i send jeff bezos a pay check for mailing me items. i love the rich, without whom we will never have socialism.

your class is determined by your relationship to capital not whether you're a millionaire or not, hth

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:

the Met is having quite an attendance crisis

live theatre industry is in catastrophic freefall

Griz
May 21, 2001


Willa Rogers posted:

I checked out the tix to the beyonce movie thinking it'd be a fun field trip for the old girls but all the tix--early show, senior price, kids price--were $22. :wtc: Are all movie prices that high now?

Last nite when I was thinking about going to the noon show today the seating chart showed that a total of 8 tickets had been sold for the entire theater. :sad:

I just checked the local dead mall theater and it's $11.50 for Napoleon at 1pm on a monday or $14.25 for 8pm, indie theater is $10 matinee $11 evening

the mall lets you pick your seats and there's no more than 5 sold for any of the showings tomorrow

webcams for christ
Nov 2, 2005

JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:

the Met is having quite an attendance crisis

they are, but their rush tickets have always been dirt cheap because they are subsidized by a specific endowment / donors

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Smythe posted:

live theatre industry is in catastrophic freefall
used to go to Berkeley Rep sometimes cuz we could get under 35 tickets for half off. now they're like $75-105 a pop for b/c orc seats, and then with x2 tix, is too expensive for me (a poor renter)

wake me up if i can see live theater for under 25 pp

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003
10 years ago it was the norm to be 80/20 earned income/contributed. now its inverted. not good

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

Xaris posted:

used to go to Berkeley Rep sometimes cuz we could get under 35 tickets for half off. now they're like $75-105 a pop for b/c orc seats, and then with x2 tix, is too expensive for me (a poor renter)

wake me up if i can see live theater for under 25 pp

u gonna be sleeping a long time

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry
it was always funny going to the rep though because like the whole audience is a sea of shining silver hair as far as the eye can see, reflecting light like cheap christmas tinsel, and we'd be the only ones with color to our hair (except some 6 year old grandkids)

i imagine they all died during covid or something which is why attendence is free-falling

webcams for christ
Nov 2, 2005

there are 19th century newspaper columns catastrophizing about how classical music is one generation away from dying out, I don't know what the vibes were like then but they still don't feel great today

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Smythe posted:

u gonna be sleeping a long time
yea probably. there was this underground(?) small sci-fi theater production team called quantum dragons that would put on sick sci-fi-ish theatrical performances about time-travelling lesbians or what if doctor who was gay goebbels, at random places. and those were fun, also only like ~$15-25 a ticket. always good crowd energy being mostly 25-30-somethings. closed up just before the pandemic. rip

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry
should just do what the soviets did where theater attendence was compulsory but free

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

Yah, the lyric audience looked like an aarp convention for both WSS and Carmen.

Danny LaFever
Dec 29, 2008


Grimey Drawer

Xaris posted:

jesus christ, americans ftl. tho i can sympathize

I always enjoy the stories of americans complaining about the price of treats, but never considering foregoing the treats.

Minera
Sep 26, 2007

All your friends and foes,
they thought they knew ya,
but look who's in your heart now.

Second Hand Meat Mouth posted:

your class is determined by your relationship to capital not whether you're a millionaire or not, hth

yes, and if you have 50 million dollars that puts you out of the working class

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

Minera posted:

yes, and if you have 50 million dollars that puts you out of the working class

no that's not how it works maybe you should read the marxism thread

Minera
Sep 26, 2007

All your friends and foes,
they thought they knew ya,
but look who's in your heart now.

Second Hand Meat Mouth posted:

no that's not how it works maybe you should read the marxism thread

whats your cut off for soaking up wages from workers and having money to invest that morphs you from being a proletariat to bourgeois

is jeff bezos a proletariat for getting a pay check from amazon

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

Minera posted:

whats your cut off for soaking up wages from workers and having money to invest that morphs you from being a proletariat to bourgeois

is jeff bezos a proletariat for getting a pay check from amazon

do you think that's jeff bezos' entire relationship with capital?

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

the classical music people should liven up their shows with actors, singing and comedy

Red Baron
Mar 9, 2007

ty slumfrog :)
someone please help me understand the difference between Seabiscuit and CEO

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Danny LaFever posted:

I always enjoy the stories of americans complaining about the price of treats, but never considering foregoing the treats.
it is bemusing looking at various shrinkflation and how many are like "this can of pringles is $9.99 and only 6 chips now!! cant believe this" or "I paid $15 for this frozen digorno and its so smol!" and it's just like, stop buying pringles/oreos/goldfish/whatever at clearly scam prices for shrinking quantities. stop giving the conagra-nestle megacorps money where they're just blatantly feasting off you. A lot of these record-breaking corporate quarterly profit reports where they are stating like "we have increased 33% more revenue by optimizing the maximum expenditure per consumer despite a 18% reduction in total consumers" are solely a short-term shot of profitable-adrenaline in the arm coasting on cultural and social inertial forces; I don't think it's going to last once the inertia dampens out and material conditions continue to decline

i don't believe in individual action or 'boycotting', but i've definitely adjusted my spending habits substantially the past several years were i'm defacto boycotting almost all big brand corporate junk because it's too expensive and i got no $$ -- and i doubt i'm the only one

Deep Dish Fuckfest
Sep 6, 2006

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all you people complaining about ticket prices going up forget about all of the improvements and innovations that have happened over that same period, such as, uh...

well at least employees are getting paid more now

oh, they aren't? huh.

well whatever from now on we're playing ads every ten minutes during movies whether you like it or not. gently caress you

(i haven't been at a movie theater in a decade so maybe that's already a thing)

Zodium
Jun 19, 2004

pretty sure 50 million dollars would easily generate enough money to sustain yourself without selling your labor power, but you could also get 50 million gas station coffees, and then it wouldn't

sonatinas
Apr 15, 2003

Seattle Karate Vs. L.A. Karate

webcams for christ posted:

Metropolitan Opera rush tickets are $25

I sometimes buy a month of the met online and have a in home date night watching some good opera.

i am harry
Oct 14, 2003

Willa Rogers posted:

Love the radio silence after the amazon & ups workers weighed in on how quiet it is at their workplaces this holiday season. :allears:

this is the thing
this is always the thing about people who are so proudly right in their head despite being wrong; eventually, after they’ve expended all their energy on calling others wrong and gaslighting everyone who can clearly see reality, their wrongness becomes self-evident, and then THEY SHUT THE gently caress UP.
they never do a tour of forgiveness, or repentance, or even admit to acknowledgement, let along say, “I was wrong.”
they just shut the gently caress up and I despise them for it.

HAIL eSATA-n
Apr 7, 2007



“The loss of the Curtis family home, which they had lived in since World War II represented further heartbreak for Mr Curtis after his son and daughter died at tragically young ages.

Both he and his mother are still fondly remembered on the suburban street where their former home is located.

One neighbour said: 'This house has a very troubled past because there is no way Best should have got his hands on it for free. A lot of people around here are still very angry that he was allowed to get away with it and that the law backed him.”

:qq: oh no this poor destitute pensioner just had an extra house sitting empty for a decade and someone moved in, how tragic

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

I personally find it amusing, big business is waiting until the election to get going to destroy the economy!

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

Second Hand Meat Mouth posted:

he is a proletariat, there's no other way to describe his relationship with capital

sure there is, does his industry produce value or does it recirculate already produced value?

i am harry
Oct 14, 2003

Xaris posted:

i don't believe in individual action or 'boycotting'

you don’t have to believe, you just don’t give these motherfuckers any of your money at all because it feels good; not buying some loving $6.99 pack of chips ahoy feels way better than paying $7 for stale cookies and opening the pack to find it’s already half empty

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Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?

Danny LaFever posted:

I always enjoy the stories of americans complaining about the price of treats, but never considering foregoing the treats.

consumption is american culture

not even trying to be funny, most people are not in a position where "stop buying things" is like an at all reasonable option even though it's right there and they can do it at any time

the taylor swift post barely registered as a thing with me because taking out a new credit card for a big purchase is a completely "normal" thing to do. I occasionally work with a guy who proudly talks about paying for all his family's vacations that way.

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