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webmeister posted:I’ve heard of the Mouth of Sauron, but this is ridiculous! That's clearly the Eye of Sauron.
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It's Morgoth. "What is that man doing to his Ainur"
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skasion posted:Tolkien wrote and illustrated Father Christmas letters for his kids. There’s quite a number of them, he did it for like 20 years iirc and they have a whole loose “plot” with Father Christmas, the North Polar Bear, hostile goblins etc Thanks for posting this - just received a copy in the mail. Can't wait to read these to my kid.
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Kaysette posted:I ain't been spreadin' no cheeks sir, honest! I was just trimming the bush under the taint there, if you'll follow me. Tokien's Middle-Earth: I ain't been spreadin' no cheeks sir, honest!
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Journey to the Crack of Doom proves easier than was foretold
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Tree Bucket posted:It's Morgoth. Actually it's Morgoth's Ring.
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Pham Nuwen posted:Tokien's Middle-Earth: I ain't been spreadin' no cheeks sir, honest!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNg_XMOMoX8 Dunno who needs to see this but the algorithm provides.
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Arc Hammer posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNg_XMOMoX8
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Arc Hammer posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNg_XMOMoX8 lmao
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Is there a good travelogue out there that details Frodo's journey from Hobbiton to Mount Doom? It's always wild to me how the majority of the action in Two Towers and King takes place in roughly a month's time from February to March 3019. The fellowship left Rivendell December 25 3018 so that's two months to the Breaking of the Fellowship at Rauros on Feb 25 while also accounting for a month long stay in Lothlorien. I'm just curious if there's a map out there marked with the Fellowship's course and dates for notable stops. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 05:21 on Dec 26, 2023 |
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LOTR Project is pretty great but idk if it has quite the level of detail you’re looking for. http://lotrproject.com/map/
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drat, that's a really cool site. Even if it doesn't have dates it's still really neat to put the path into perspective, and from there it could definitely help me figure out some estimates for general travel time.
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Atlas of Middle Earth has exactly that for both Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit
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Ergo Propter Hog posted:Atlas of Middle Earth has exactly that for both Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit was about to post that, i loving love that book and its one of my favorite possessions
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Ergo Propter Hog posted:Atlas of Middle Earth has exactly that for both Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit This book is great. I love "expert at [thing] interprets fantasy" and a geologist (iirc?) doing it is great. Same with ACOUP and the various attempts at estimating Middle Earth's population.
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Arc Hammer posted:Is there a good travelogue out there that details Frodo's journey from Hobbiton to Mount Doom? It's always wild to me how the majority of the action in Two Towers and King takes place in roughly a month's time from February to March 3019. The fellowship left Rivendell December 25 3018 so that's two months to the Breaking of the Fellowship at Rauros on Feb 25 while also accounting for a month long stay in Lothlorien. Journeys of Frodo by Barbara Strachey. Out of print—good luck finding a copy, Amazon Germany lists one for 1700€
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Arc Hammer posted:Is there a good travelogue out there that details Frodo's journey from Hobbiton to Mount Doom? It's always wild to me how the majority of the action in Two Towers and King takes place in roughly a month's time from February to March 3019. The fellowship left Rivendell December 25 3018 so that's two months to the Breaking of the Fellowship at Rauros on Feb 25 while also accounting for a month long stay in Lothlorien. There's also onthisdayinLOTR on twitter but the events are overlapping sometimes given the way that the timeline works. Lots to pick out here easily however. https://x.com/onthisdayinLotR/status/1584576701886976001?s=20
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GONDOR CALLS FOR AID
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Tree Bucket posted:GONDOR CALLS FOR AID
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Tree Bucket posted:GONDOR CALLS FOR AID 
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I guess now we know who gave Eomer his sweet van.
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I was going to draw "the beacons are LIT" but I wasn't sure if LIT was still acceptable slang or not,
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I’m always amazed at how much more Eomer gets to do in the books, including the amazing speech before Aragorn’s banner is unveiled on the black ships. Even though it helped jumpstart his career, but I always wonder what Karl Urban thought of the huge abridgment his character got for the films. Like he seems like the kind of actor who would actually have read the books before signing on.
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Do orcs go to the halls of mandos or whatever when they get killed?
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Tom Smykowski posted:Do orcs go to the halls of mandos or whatever when they get killed? I don't know of any writing by Tolkien commenting directly on the afterlives (or lack thereof) of orcs specifically; however, if we take the speculation in the published Silmarillion to be accurate, that orcs are ultimately of Elvish origins, then this passage from Laws and Customs of the Eldar would seem to apply: quote:The fëa is single, and in the last impregnable. It cannot be brought to Mandos. It is summoned; and the summons proceeds from just authority, and is imperative; yet it may be refused. Among the [non-Eldar elves], refusal of the summons to Mandos and the Halls of Waiting is, the Eldar say, frequent. It was less frequent, however, in ancient days, while Morgoth was in Arda, or his servant Sauron after him; for then the fëa unbodied would flee in terror of the Shadow to any refuge – unless it were already committed to the Darkness and passed then into its dominion. In like manner even of the Eldar some who had become corrupted refused the summons, and then had little power to resist the counter-summons of Morgoth. So, taking that into account, I would say that orcish spirits fell under the dominion of Morgoth and later Sauron, while they were active, and would have probably been bound into the shapes of werewolves, vampires (by which Tolkien seems to mean great blood-drinking bats) and other monstrous creations. In the interregnum between the defeat of Morgoth and the rise of Sauron, and again after the War of the Ring, orcish spirits would have been summoned to Mandos, and surely at least some would not resist it. Any orcish spirits that are in Mandos would definitely be kept in their own section of the Halls, and take a long, long time, probably literal Ages, to heal from the traumas of Morgoth's and Sauron's domination. Nonetheless I personally believe that when Dagor Dagorath comes, a legion of healed orcs will march forth from Valinor to do battle against their ancient tormentor.
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Anshu posted:I don't know of any writing by Tolkien commenting directly on the afterlives (or lack thereof) of orcs specifically; however, if we take the speculation in the published Silmarillion to be accurate, that orcs are ultimately of Elvish origins, then this passage from Laws and Customs of the Eldar would seem to apply: Some of those unbodied fëa which had succumbed to the control of evil in the Third Age were sent by the Witch-King of Angmar to inhabit the bodies of great Men of Arnor and its successor kingdoms that were buried in barrows. It's likely that happened in earlier ages too but I don't think anything was written about it - maybe Sauron took the techniques that Morgoth had used to make Werewolves, Vampires etc. and adapted them? I like the idea of healed Orcs. I've had a thing in my head for years about a group of Uruks and other Orcs, and maybe a few trolls, who escaped after the destruction of the Ring and Sauron's final defeat. They'd be trying to make an honest go of it as a society and would prize their freedom from domination above all else.
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Anshu posted:Nonetheless I personally believe that when Dagor Dagorath comes, a legion of healed orcs will march forth from Valinor to do battle against their ancient tormentor. Hell yes 
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Anshu posted:Nonetheless I personally believe that when Dagor Dagorath comes, a legion of healed orcs will march forth from Valinor to do battle against their ancient tormentor. I love this thread
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Anshu posted:Nonetheless I personally believe that when Dagor Dagorath comes, a legion of healed orcs will march forth from Valinor to do battle against their ancient tormentor. You are the guy who wrote The Last Ringbearer and I claim my £5
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Anshu posted:Nonetheless I personally believe that when Dagor Dagorath comes, a legion of healed orcs will march forth from Valinor to do battle against their ancient tormentor. Hell yeah
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Tolkien himself struggled with orcs a lot because I think he really did want them to be wholly evil and unsalvageable creatures but that was just not something his insanely catholic mind could tolerate. The only actual obstacle to that is his writings that imply Morgoth could not create, only twist and warp already created things. But that is not entirely true as he played a part in the Music and his later lack of power to create is from him expending more and more of his power in his solo war against the combined Ainur. If orcs were created way back in the early days of Arda and then only came to prominence once Morgoth is in Angband than there is no real conflict in terms of orcish souls. They are akin to the Dwarves before Eru blessed them with souls despite Aule's impatience. Anshu posted:Nonetheless I personally believe that when Dagor Dagorath comes, a legion of healed orcs will march forth from Valinor to do battle against their ancient tormentor. This is also a dope idea though
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The fact that orcs and humans can procreate really opens up a lot of questions about orcs that’s probably left best unasked . They are not the best part of Tolkien’s work at all.
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I mean humans can procreate in our world it's not that uncommon. Unless you mean Men and Orcs breeding with each other, to which I point to the Half Elves. Extraordinary and rare but not impossible. Crossing Orcs with Men to breed the Uruks feels more like Greek gods moulding Mankind from clay more than it does putting a lady orc in a bedroom with a man.
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Breed does not mean mold from clay. It’s possible the characters in the book do not know exactly how the Uruk hai were created
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Hobbit Lovecraft who goes to Bree and gets the vapors whenever he sees a Man with any hint of Orcish features
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YaketySass posted:Hobbit Lovecraft who goes to Bree and gets the vapors whenever he sees a Man with any hint of Orcish features Queen Beruthial named her cat what!?
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