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Rescue Toaster: Mar 13, 2003

U-DO Burger posted:

oof. for people without twitter, this is what it says:

"Boyfriend has severe COVID. Med school final exams are tomorrow. School requires he quarantine until asymptomatic, yet has denied his request for medical absence. If he doesn't show up to testing with active COVID tomorrow, he fails the semester & must retake all classes. Education is being funded by disability vocational rehab. They won't pay to retake failed classes. We can't afford the tuition.

If the Dean doesn't intervene to allow testing post-COVID recovery, he plans to drop out of school. Why? If medical absences are disallowed and routine illness results in failed classes, the time & monetary cost will be too great. He's worked so hard to get this far. It's a devastating blow.

Praying for a miracle. Hoping, somehow, his tests can be delayed to next week."

yeah that sucks but it's probably good to realize now just how easy it is for expensive, long term career paths to go up in smoke because the covid RNG looked at you funny

Apparently he was 'medically advised against getting COVID vaccination due to reactions to other vaccines' even after getting a PE and DVT from severe COVID in 2020? Seems like at that point it'd probably be worth getting one of the shots even if someone had to stand by with an epipen.

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# ? May 26, 2024 16:04

puncturewound78: Apr 18, 2023

The Oldest Man posted:

yeah severe covid lung damage (one of the forms of it anyway) is the virus forming huge non-functional syncytia (multi-nucleated cell blobs) out of your lung meat, which never really heal in the way lung damage from flu via conventional cell death does.

Probably the only thing in my medical history that indicates I have complications from Covid (besides my statements, and seeing so many specialists) is my pulmonary function test being abysmal

Had a hard time even completing the assessment. Was incapable of the stamina even needed to get through certain sections of the test.

It was really difficult, great technician though. She was really cool.

# ? Dec 11, 2023 02:58

Platystemon: Feb 13, 2012; BREADS

There are laughs in unlikely places today.

I mean, it�s NYT, which is frequently if unintentionally funny, but in an article entitled �The Bodily Indignities of the Space Life�? The editors have outdone themselves.

quote:

The potential adverse health effects of loneliness and isolation in space have also been under-studied but will most likely become more significant the longer a mission lasts. Being in space is like the pandemic lockdowns many people experienced in 2020, except you can�t open a window or take a walk outdoors.

lol

quote:

There are concerns about reproduction, however, that will have to be addressed if our species is ever to take up permanent residence somewhere else besides Earth. For the most part, scientists have studied aspects of procreation in space only in animals, including fruit flies, frogs, newts, geckos, aquatic crustaceans, quails, rats, mice and, intriguingly, rams. While producing and developing healthy embryos in space can be done, it clearly comes with considerable risks. Radiation exposure damages DNA and can cause infertility and sterility in adults, for example. Exposed embryos and fetuses appear more likely to have growth and cognitive delays, birth defects and higher rates of newborn mortality.

lol

quote:

Chough was the flight surgeon for NASA astronauts on the I.S.S. when the coronavirus vaccine became available, and she had to decide whether to send it up on a routine resupply flight. The decision involved weighing the protection of the astronauts when they landed on Earth, conceivably with compromised immunity, versus considerations about how to get liquid into a syringe, how any side effects could make astronauts incapable of performing their duties, how to keep the vaccine cold enough and how to dose it without wasting any � an ethical conundrum in the days when there was not enough to go around on Earth. Ultimately, Chough decided they would have to wait until their return.

lol

# ? Dec 11, 2023 03:08

euphronius: Feb 18, 2009

the lockdowns where you walk around outside

# ? Dec 11, 2023 03:11

Gunshow Poophole: Sep 14, 2008; OMBUDSMAN
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Somehow catching covid on the fuckin space station would be the most American act possible

# ? Dec 11, 2023 03:21

Griz: May 21, 2001

maxwellhill posted:

three out of three shipments i got from USPS this month were iHealth brand. it must go by state being shipped to

I live in NY and the last round was Celltrion Diatrust (Korean brand) shipped from Kansas

# ? Dec 11, 2023 03:36

U-DO Burger: Nov 12, 2007

Platystemon posted:

There are laughs in unlikely places today.

I mean, it’s NYT, which is frequently if unintentionally funny, but in an article entitled “The Bodily Indignities of the Space Life”? The editors have outdone themselves.

I'm sorry but I had to close my browser in disgust upon seeing this

quote:

While that collective experience is enough to have taught us how the body responds when gravity’s pull is substantially reduced, the magnetosphere still shields the I.S.S., and only the 24 astronauts who flew in the Apollo program have gone beyond it. (The moon orbits an average of more than 238,000 miles away.) Though these two dozen astronauts spent little more than a week at a time without its protection, they have died of cardiovascular disease at a rate four to five times as high as that of their counterparts who stayed in low Earth orbit or never entered orbit at all, which suggests that exposure to cosmic radiation might have damaged their arteries, veins and capillaries.

you had a chance to mention immunity debt right there and you blew it!

# ? Dec 11, 2023 04:31

Platystemon: Feb 13, 2012; BREADS

CDC has unveiled a suspect in the astronaut cardiovascular disease cluster.

P.S. going back to the article, this part makes me question the writer�s understanding of basic forces of the universe, but it doesn�t have anything to do with coronavirus.

quote:

Gravity is determined by the mass of objects and their distance from one another. Because Earth is so big, it is impossible, while on it, to escape its gravity for any serious length of time.

# ? Dec 11, 2023 04:46

U-DO Burger: Nov 12, 2007

Dr. Mona Nemer is the Chief Science Advisor of Canada, and I'm assuming that's a position with zero actual influence whatsoever because here she is saying correct things

https://x.com/ChiefSciCan/status/1733865401925210433?s=20

"Even mild cases of SARS-CoV-2 infection are at risk of becoming long covid, and these results suggest the threat increases with multiple infections. Overcoming it once doesn�t necessarily protect you from subsequent cases that are worse. Best to avoid it altogether. These results are corroborated by scientific studies, including this one by Ziyad Al-Aly and team."

# ? Dec 11, 2023 05:38

Steve Yun: Aug 7, 2003; I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.; Soiled Meat

https://x.com/bnofeed/status/1733937558562689313?s=46

# ? Dec 11, 2023 05:49

Platystemon: Feb 13, 2012; BREADS

Thoughts?

# ? Dec 11, 2023 05:51

Steve Yun: Aug 7, 2003; I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.; Soiled Meat

Platystemon posted:

Thoughts?

did the cross get Covid too

# ? Dec 11, 2023 06:21

skooma512: Feb 8, 2012; You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

Well, I got hit. Tested positive this morning. Runny nose and lost my sense of taste. I even got takeout from a restaurant I wanted to try only to find out I couldn't taste. Sucks to be cursed.

Second time and I got the vaccine in late Oct. I guess I might try and score some pax tomorrow.

# ? Dec 11, 2023 06:22

Platystemon: Feb 13, 2012; BREADS

Steve Yun posted:

did the cross get Covid too

That�s just how they roll. It�s a portate cross, associated with the twelfth‐century Saint Gilbert.

Platystemon has issued a correction as of 06:43 on Dec 11, 2023

# ? Dec 11, 2023 06:34

Zantie: Mar 30, 2003; Death. The capricious dance of Now You Stop Moving Forever.

skooma512 posted:

Well, I got hit. Tested positive this morning. Runny nose and lost my sense of taste. I even got takeout from a restaurant I wanted to try only to find out I couldn't taste. Sucks to be cursed.

Second time and I got the vaccine in late Oct. I guess I might try and score some pax tomorrow.

Dang man, hope you feel better soon.

# ? Dec 11, 2023 06:42

DickParasite: Dec 2, 2004; Slippery Tilde

skooma512 posted:

Well, I got hit. Tested positive this morning. Runny nose and lost my sense of taste. I even got takeout from a restaurant I wanted to try only to find out I couldn't taste. Sucks to be cursed.

Second time and I got the vaccine in late Oct. I guess I might try and score some pax tomorrow.

Hope you feel better soon bud.

# ? Dec 11, 2023 06:47

maxwellhill: Jan 5, 2022

skooma512 posted:

Well, I got hit. Tested positive this morning. Runny nose and lost my sense of taste. I even got takeout from a restaurant I wanted to try only to find out I couldn't taste. Sucks to be cursed.

Second time and I got the vaccine in late Oct. I guess I might try and score some pax tomorrow.

do you already have some? better be taking it

RIP

# ? Dec 11, 2023 06:49

Snowglobe of Doom: Mar 30, 2012; sucks to be right

Updated monovalent XBB 1.5 vaccines are now available in Australia, starting today: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-12-11/new-covid-coronavirus-vaccine-booster-monavalent-now-available/103212564

Only Pfizer and Moderna, the updated Novavax shot still hasn't been approved

# ? Dec 11, 2023 07:03

mawarannahr: May 21, 2019; Can't post for 11 hours!

Platystemon posted:

Thoughts?

this is more my style:
https://www.tiktok.com/embed/7310354704914189614

# ? Dec 11, 2023 08:13

erosion: Dec 21, 2002; It's true and I'm tired of pretending it isn't

Where did the thread end up landing on zinc lozenges? I suggested them a long, long time ago and got nothing but pushback. They're still part of my preventative measures once I get the initial tickle in the throat along with hydration, mouthwash gargling, and sinus irrigation.

# ? Dec 11, 2023 09:00

Pingui: Jun 4, 2006; WTF?

Introspective opinion piece by Ed Yong, focused on the interplay of journalism and the ongoing crisis of long COVID. I quite enjoyed it in its entirety; here just an excerpt with the central thesis:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/11/opinion/long-covid-reporting-lessons.html posted:

Reporting on Long Covid Taught Me to Be a Better Journalist
(..)
Covering long Covid solidified my view that science is not the objective, neutral force it is often misconstrued as. It is instead a human endeavor, relentlessly buffeted by our culture, values and politics. As energy-depleting illnesses that disproportionately affect women, long Covid and M.E./C.F.S. are easily belittled by a sexist society that trivializes women�s pain, and a capitalist one that values people according to their productivity. Societal dismissal leads to scientific neglect, and a lack of research becomes fodder for further skepticism. I understood these dynamics only after interviewing social scientists, disability scholars and patients themselves, whose voices are often absent or minimized in the media. Like the pandemic writ large, long Covid is not just a health problem. It is a social one, and must also be understood as such.

Dismissal and gaslighting � you�re just depressed; it�s in your head � are among the worst aspects of long Covid, and can be as crushing as the physical suffering. They�re hard to fight because the symptoms can be so beyond the realm of everyday experience as to seem unbelievable, and because those same symptoms can sap energy and occlude mental acuity. Journalism, then, can be a conduit for empathy, putting words to the indescribable and clarifying the unfathomable for people too sick to do it themselves.

Many long-haulers have told me that they�ve used my work to finally get through to skeptical loved ones, employers and doctors � a use that, na�vely, I hadn�t previously considered. I had always imagined that the testing ground for my writing was the mind of my reader, who would learn something new or perhaps even change what and how they think. But this one-step model is woefully incomplete because we are a social species. Journalism doesn�t stop with first-generation readers but cascades through their networks. Done well, it can make those networks stronger.

After my most recent piece, which explained how severe the fatigue of long Covid and M.E./C.F.S. can be, one long-hauler told me that her sister said, �I did not understand how sick you really felt.� Even healthy people started writing in: A 25-year-old reader who has spent her life watching her mother wrestling with M.E./C.F.S. said that until reading that piece, �I truly didn�t get it (or maybe didn�t believe her).� People who had been sick for years or even decades said it was the first time they had seen their lives accurately, fully and compassionately reflected in the press.

This is a damning indictment of my profession, my prepandemic self included. I am far from the only journalist covering this topic but clearly there aren�t enough of us. How could so many people feel so thoroughly unrepresented by an industry that purports to give voice to the voiceless?

In covering conditions like long Covid and M.E./C.F.S., many journalistic norms and biases work against us. Our love of iconoclasts privileges the voices of skeptics, who can profess to be canceled by patient groups, over the voices of patients who are actually suffering. Our fondness for novelty leaves us prone to ignoring chronic conditions that are, by definition, not new. Normalized aspects of our work like tight deadlines and phone interviews can be harmful to the people we most need to hear from.
(..)

Archived link: https://archive.vn/b5scE

# ? Dec 11, 2023 11:54

Steve Yun: Aug 7, 2003; I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.; Soiled Meat

Ed continues to be the best person at whatever rag he�s at

# ? Dec 11, 2023 12:10

maxwellhill: Jan 5, 2022

how many workers got denied N95s in the first place because of employers who lied about this

(OSHA standards:)

https://www.osha.gov/laws-regs/standardinterpretations/2006-02-06-0 posted:

Question #1: Does a principal employer have an obligation to prohibit the voluntary use of filtering facepieces by workers who have beards or other facial hair that interfere with the functioning of the filtering facepieces? Does an employer have an obligation to prohibit the voluntary use of filtering facepieces by contractor employees working on the principal employer's premises who have beards or other facial hair that interfere with the functioning of the filtering facepieces?

Response: No, the voluntary use of respirators in atmospheres which are not hazardous does not require the mask to be fit tested or the wearer to a maintain a tight fit, so beards that could interfere with the faceseal or functioning of filtering facepieces would be not be prohibited by the standard.

maxwellhill has issued a correction as of 12:30 on Dec 11, 2023

# ? Dec 11, 2023 12:26

maxwellhill: Jan 5, 2022

is 3M Bitrex supposed to used at full concentration or with water added? does one just pour the entire tiny bottle into a nebulizer and keep it there?

# ? Dec 11, 2023 12:28

Platystemon: Feb 13, 2012; BREADS

# ? Dec 11, 2023 12:33

Pingui: Jun 4, 2006; WTF?

Platystemon posted:

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Unfortunately, that right is alienable and you didn't check the implied small print on your employment contract. Sorry, nothing to be done. - Your employer, probably.

# ? Dec 11, 2023 12:51

Bruce Hussein Daddy: Dec 26, 2005; I testify that there is none worthy of worship except God and I testify that Muhammad is the Messenger of God

# ? Dec 11, 2023 13:45

Pingui: Jun 4, 2006; WTF?

Yesterday it was at 19% for the week prior, but today the numbers got updated and :rubby:

Cases have doubled over the same timeframe (right column):

With the implication being that the increase is entirely down to JN.1
:denmark:

# ? Dec 11, 2023 15:56

Pingui: Jun 4, 2006; WTF?

I really hope that is an artifact of sequencing prioritization, because that is ~17 times increase in 4 weeks... (57 -> 974)

In cases... of course infections are a different and higher matter (last number available for positivity rate is 24.2%).

Pingui has issued a correction as of 16:28 on Dec 11, 2023

# ? Dec 11, 2023 16:26

Pingui: Jun 4, 2006; WTF?

Anyways, JN.1.1 is beating it at a 20� times increase in the same time frame (8 - > 173).

I should note though, that this is under the assumption that the proportion of sequences is constant. E.g. week 44 had 941 cases, 768 have been checked and 588 yielded a sequence (so the start point is certain), but week 48 had 1968 cases, only 608 have been checked and a mere 430 yielded a sequence.

Going by the latest "complete" week - week 47 with 71.3% attempted sequenced and 42.2% yielding a result - JN.1 appears to have had a 11.4 times increase and JN.1.1 a 13.7 times increase in 3 weeks.

Source: https://www.covid19genomics.dk/statistics (the official Danish portal for sequencing statistics)

Pingui has issued a correction as of 16:55 on Dec 11, 2023

# ? Dec 11, 2023 16:47

Malgrin: Mar 16, 2010

Steve Yun posted:

https://x.com/ejustin46/status/1733870559170044173?s=46

apparently infected cells grow hentai tentacles and Covid virions surf across them onto new cells

https://x.com/ejustin46/status/1733870578195476592?s=46

Vaxed?

# ? Dec 11, 2023 16:54

NeonPunk: Dec 21, 2020

Hoping that it's just sequencing prioritization is also a very bad thing too since it implies that they're testing the most severe cases first

# ? Dec 11, 2023 17:02

Pingui: Jun 4, 2006; WTF?

NeonPunk posted:

Hoping that it's just sequencing prioritization is also a very bad thing too since it implies that they're testing the most severe cases first

Not necessarily; like in 2021 they did stuff like utilizing S-Gene drop out to specify Alpha. I know SSI (Danish CDC) has been working on making it a stable to quickly determine variant proportions and it could have been utilized here. I suspect the sudden increase in detected proportions comes from this (it doubled week on week, from 19% -> 39%).

That said, it was a top of head speculation on my part. Using the latest "completed" 3 weeks only actually made the calculated pace worse... based on those, the (calculated by me) increase is a weekly ~2.25 and ~2.39 respectively (completed here in quotes, as there is usually ~10% coming in at a later time).

# ? Dec 11, 2023 17:15

Zantie: Mar 30, 2003; Death. The capricious dance of Now You Stop Moving Forever.

Pingui posted:

Not necessarily; like in 2021 they did stuff like utilizing S-Gene drop out [...]

This is most likely it. S- gene drop out or target failure (SGTF) has been a means of prioritizing sequencing of new variants from Alpha->Delta->Omicron and each various wave of sub variants.

# ? Dec 11, 2023 17:18

Pingui: Jun 4, 2006; WTF?

As if on cue, this news item just got posted (auto-translated from Danish). 1813 is the emergency number for when stuff isn't immediately life-threatening:

https://www-dr-dk.translate.goog/ny...&_x_tr_pto=wapp posted:

Sick employees create long telephone queues at 1813

On Saturday, the average response time was 42 minutes, and yesterday it was around 24 minutes - this is shown by figures from the Capital Region's emergency response.

It is otherwise the ambition that 90 percent of calls to 1813 must be answered within five minutes.

But the queue on the telephone lines is due to the fact that the employees at 1813 are themselves ill.

Therefore, they have had to get 'every man on deck', says Berit Juhl, who is head of department for 1813.

But there is also another reason why the calls are not answered so quickly.

- A great many of those who have called in at the weekend have called in with symptoms of flu, she says.

But you don't have to, because it's usually a virus that doesn't require any treatment, she adds.

# ? Dec 11, 2023 17:37

Insanite: Aug 30, 2005

I am delighted but surprised that Ed Yong still gets to publish at large platforms.

# ? Dec 11, 2023 17:46

Why Am I So Tired: Sep 28, 2021

maxwellhill posted:

is 3M Bitrex supposed to used at full concentration or with water added? does one just pour the entire tiny bottle into a nebulizer and keep it there?

I did a 50-50 split with water, and from what I understand you can go lower. FWIW, after I passed my test, I blasted myself in the face with it to make sure it was strong enough (I'm a genius) and I almost puked off of the railing instantly.

# ? Dec 11, 2023 18:54

The Oldest Man: Jul 28, 2003

maxwellhill posted:

is 3M Bitrex supposed to used at full concentration or with water added? does one just pour the entire tiny bottle into a nebulizer and keep it there?

the kit i got has little single use ampules so theres no guess-work

Why Am I So Tired posted:

I did a 50-50 split with water, and from what I understand you can go lower. FWIW, after I passed my test, I blasted myself in the face with it to make sure it was strong enough (I'm a genius) and I almost puked off of the railing instantly.

this owns however

# ? Dec 11, 2023 18:56

Shady Amish Terror: Oct 11, 2007; I'm not Amish by choice. 8(

Why Am I So Tired posted:

I did a 50-50 split with water, and from what I understand you can go lower. FWIW, after I passed my test, I blasted myself in the face with it to make sure it was strong enough (I'm a genius) and I almost puked off of the railing instantly.

Perfect, no notes. At least you know, with crystal clarity, that the concentration is sufficient. :v:

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# ? May 26, 2024 16:04

Steve Yun: Aug 7, 2003; I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.; Soiled Meat

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/pfizer-price-covid-19-drug-paxlovid-1400-five-day-course-wsj-2023-10-18/

so the $1400 price for paxlovid is just what Pfizer is going to charge insurance

nobody knows yet what they�re going to charge patients after insurance discounts

Medicare and Medicaid patients will get it free through the end of 2024

uninsured and underinsured patients will still get it free through 2028

I�m guessing the main problem is that insurance will try their damnest to prescribe it to as few people as possible

# ? Dec 11, 2023 20:09

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