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I thought it was nice that The Doctor got to give himself a hug for once. That was very sweet.
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Reddit's speculation on The One Who Waits is wild. A contingent is convinced it's Susan because the Doctor never came back for her after abandoning her on a destroyed Earth. I think it's the The Beast Below.
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Dec 11, 2023 03:07
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Detective No. 27 posted:How do you factor in the second TARDIS? It's a fun way to make a show of it, I don't see it as an issue at all, if they didn't have a scene then the TARDIS shows up for one of em from another point in time, ez. An inchworm can't be cut in two and one half of it goes on to grow into a whole inchworm and the second one is both whole inchworms combined all along.
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DoctorWhat posted:The only people for whom Gatwa has been actually undermined by this were already bad faith bigots looking for excuses not to accepting him. Thanks no I'm not a loving bigot and I say nothing in bad faith Captain Fargle posted:I thought it was nice that The Doctor got to give himself a hug for once. That was very sweet. Absolutely 100% agreed
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Actually, looking at the wiki, it’s been in tons of stuff I didn’t catch before. Seeing it was on the TV Martha had made me rewatch that scene, its just so good, the music is top notch there.
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Dec 11, 2023 03:29
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Barry Foster posted:Thanks no I'm not a loving bigot and I say nothing in bad faith I'm not accusing anyone in this thread of bad faith bigotry. What I'm saying is that a lot of people in this thread are anxious and paranoid that the bi-generation constitutes some sort of "gotcha" or justification that bigots can use to delegitimize Gatwa. What I'm saying is, that audience was never going to be anything but hostile anyway. Bi-generation doesn't actually change how legitimate Gatwa is as the 15th Doctor. He's the star of the show, he's got a season in the can and another one in production, he's on all the promotions and merchandise, he's on the cover of DWM every month for the next two-four years minimum. So we, here, can relax. We don't need to worry about how creeps and reactionaries will twist the events of The Giggle. "The ones who mind don't matter, and the ones who matter don't mind."
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Dec 11, 2023 03:31
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Space Cadet is up to Army of Ghosts/Doomsday and I'd forgotten how much Rose's "I am dead this is how I died" bit at the start annoyed me. Just a cheap lie to raise tension, nothing clever or interesting about it.
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Dec 11, 2023 03:50
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Reminds me of the old times when ads for shows would take a tiny out of context clip and spend all week hyping up this thing that never even kind of happens.
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Dec 11, 2023 03:53
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https://twitter.com/hxll_mxtt/status/1733949055670054925?s=20 Agree 100% with this tweet, watching this bit again and it's great. Ncuti is going to be fantastic.
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My one complaint: who the hell wears a long sleeve Henley under a long sleeve dress shirt?
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Maybe it's very cold on set? I thought it was weird but wrote it off because maybe it's normal if youre wearing that many expensive layers.
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DoctorWhat posted:"The ones who mind don't matter, and the ones who matter don't mind." I’m stealing this btw Confusedslight posted:https://twitter.com/hxll_mxtt/status/1733949055670054925?s=20 I know it’s often a logistical thing with filming, but I do really like having an actual moment between the actors instead of the usual regeneration scene.
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Covok posted:Reddit's speculation on The One Who Waits is wild
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TL posted:My one complaint: who the hell wears a long sleeve Henley under a long sleeve dress shirt? You've seen how skinny he is. He needs all the layers he can.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I know it’s often a logistical thing with filming, but I do really like having an actual moment between the actors instead of the usual regeneration scene. Hey, it works for Kamen Rider! Also, anyone who thinks Gatwa was undermined by Tennant wasn't watching. One of those Doctors was definitely upstaging the other, but it was NOT Tennant!
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Cleretic posted:Also, anyone who thinks Gatwa was undermined by Tennant wasn't watching. One of those Doctors was definitely upstaging the other, but it was NOT Tennant! Mel telling 15 he was beautiful, and 14 leaning out from behind her and going,"......STILL beautiful, right?" cracked me up.
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--Ok so you know how if you have too much sugar that can be bad and cause health problems? Is there an equivalent for charisma? Because if so we need to find Ncuti a doc... oh. --There is 100% going to be a big story episode in the future where the 14/15 duplication gets resolved and 14 ends in some way, probably as part of a big saving the universe moment.
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CommonShore posted:probably as part of a big saving the universe moment. I prefer to think (hope?) that he just dies of old age after a long and happy semi-retirement knowing that he is out there somewhere in his next incarnation saving the day, says,"I'm ready to go" when his time comes and the regeneration sees him disappear while from his perspective he finds himself emerging delighted from his younger "dying" self on that rooftop in front of the Toymaker 
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Did they explain the OTHER Doctor at some point? I remember it being introduced and instantly checking out because I just groaned and went "oh boy ANOTHER mystery box". It's amazing how little of Whittaker's run I remember. But drat, these 3 specials have been the best Doctor Who i've seen in forever. I think 2 was the best one, but this one was great. I Was a bit NPH being the Toymaker might be a big much, but no, the perfect amount of ham. I wonder how much it cost to license Spice Girls?
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Ever since The Idiot’s Lantern, the show has tossed in Magpie Electric logos for TVs and such as easter eggs. Had no idea about the recurring logo, nice. Also perfect opportunity to share this; if you put 'anti' in front of 'fandom' in any Fandom wiki url, you get a version that isn't a hellscape plagued with ads.
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jisforjosh posted:Had no idea about the recurring logo, nice. Also perfect opportunity to share this; if you put 'anti' in front of 'fandom' in any Fandom wiki url, you get a version that isn't a hellscape plagued with ads. Oh my goodness thank you so much for sharing that. I was losing my mind whenever I've been on tardis wiki lately.
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Open Source Idiom posted:The episode seems to imply that it's the new normal. Not sure where bi regen being the new normal is anywhere implied
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Mr Beens posted:Not sure where bi regen being the new normal is anywhere implied The Toymaker's monologue about killing and doubling Doctors forever and ever.
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Detective No. 27 posted:I don’t really see how X-2 eventually becoming Fourteen (Gatwa) is supposed to work. Is he supposed to one day say “oh hey, I fixed my trauma” and then his essence warps wherever in time and space to the moment he bi-generates in The Giggle? Does the second TARDIS just vanish in the aether? It’s obvious they’re now two branching paths.
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TinTower posted:One thing I noticed during the Spice Girls scene is that the line “yellow man in Timbuktu” – which the girls have since replaced in live performances – is covered up by the gun sound effects. "We dubbed over it." Well thats ALRIGHT THEN.
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When Mel said she was the first redhead, needed 14 to say "Well, Turlough"
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Inbetween being chased by mis-shapen and mis-sized versions of themselves and creepy puppets and dolls I'm glad to see Doctor Who is ready to traumatise a whole new generation of younger viewers. With the budget they've got to play with I really hope we get at least one Moffat written story under Rusty.
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twistedmentat posted:Did they explain the OTHER Doctor at some point? I remember it being introduced and instantly checking out because I just groaned and went "oh boy ANOTHER mystery box". It's amazing how little of Whittaker's run I remember. No, the implication is she’s pre-Hartnell, but that makes no sense. quote:But drat, these 3 specials have been the best Doctor Who i've seen in forever. I think 2 was the best one, but this one was great. I Was a bit NPH being the Toymaker might be a big much, but no, the perfect amount of ham. I wonder how much it cost to license Spice Girls? For the BBC? Nothing!
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Lord Ludikrous posted:Doctor Who is ready to traumatise a whole new generation of younger viewers. Yeah the Stooky Sue + Stooky Babbies scene was legit creepy, hoping it scared some kids. I'm far and away more a fan of modern nuWho than I am of the OG serials, but I always remember seeing an episode of Paradise Towers with the creepy loving robot in the pool and it scaring the absolute poo poo out of me  And hey turns out that was a Mel story Would love to find a clip of it, but Google/Youtube search is absolute dogshit these days.
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The_Doctor posted:For the BBC? Nothing! For Disney+, on the other hand...
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The_Doctor posted:No, the implication is she’s pre-Hartnell, but that makes no sense. Sure it does. Previous Timeless Child/Doctor cycle. Memories were erased between cycles.
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Just watched The Giggle. The dual Doctors were fun and (I love 15 already), but I expected 14 to merge back into 15 at the end. Either that, or actually die. I really should have known better...  I know everyone hates him for some reason I've never truly understood, but I miss Chibnall.
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Serious question, and I'm not just being a dick: Why?
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I don't HATE Chibnall, I think he has good intent but what he writes is frequently not fun to watch and I'm disappointed that the first woman in the role was stuck with him as showrunner. The timeless child stuff felt like a kid excitedly telling you about the fanfic he just read.
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The_Doctor posted:For the BBC? Nothing! MikeJF posted:For Disney+, on the other hand... There also might be some problems there on reruns/regional broadcasts/later releases, right? I know that's a problem that hit one of RTD's previous musical numbers, the I Can't Decide scene. (And my brain wanted to say it also caused issues with the Hartnell story The Chase, but a quick scan of the Doctor Who wiki says no.) Disney's got no shortage of money to pay for licensing, but they've also established a pattern of taking a show/movie off their service, so there could be a future where it goes somewhere else, and things get complicated. Cleretic fucked around with this message at 13:00 on Dec 11, 2023 |
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Yet another reason that I cling with increasingly suspicious panic to my beloved physical media.
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Barry Foster posted:Serious question, and I'm not just being a dick: I'll admit most of my good memories of Chibnall's run were for Jodie's first couple of seasons... I can't quite articulate it but the show just felt more grounded, less wacky for the sake of wacky. The cinematography and new composer felt really refreshing, and went a long way toward that. Jodie too, for that matter. The plots could still be nonsensical, but I legitimately enjoyed the possibilities created by the Timeless Child stuff. Huge swaths of the Doctor's past she didn't know about? The revelation she wasn't actually Gallifreyan? Her running into unknown previous versions of herself? Heck yes, give me more of that! I think he took some of it in the wrong directions, but at least he was trying to take the Doctor's lore in some interesting new directions. Honestly, I don't think his miss-to-hit ratio is all that different to any other post-2005 showrunner (even including Flux). I don't usually read/post in this thread but whenever I hear criticism of Chibnall (elsewhere) it's always "his bad writing". None of the people I've asked in the past have been able to explain what they mean by that though. And honestly it feels even more jarring when the same people criticising Chibnall's writing are celebrating the return of RTD, of all people.
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When I think of Chibnall being a "bad writer" for Doctor Who, it's because I find him an unmemorable writer. He doesn't have the setup-reminder-payoff structure or sitcom banter dialogue that Moffat has, or the highly legible heart on sleeve emotions and keenly observed characters that RTD is good at, his words just kind of slide off the brain. I think a lot of people ITT have said something along the lines of "I know I've seen [Chibnall episode], but I couldn't tell you anything that happened in it".
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Cleretic posted:(And my brain wanted to say it also caused issues with the Hartnell story The Chase, but a quick scan of the Doctor Who wiki says no.) Your brain is right - the Beatles inclusion in The Chase has led to its DVD and Bluray releases outside of the UK being edited.
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