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Kheldarn
Feb 17, 2011



docbeard posted:

They got bought by some data mining company but I'm not sure it actually affected the software. The bigger issue is that there's not much development happening any more from what I can see

There is development happening, by the original developer, but it's just him. And if you want any of it, you have to use the beta version of Nova 8.

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repiv
Aug 13, 2009

incogneato posted:

Yeah, despite me griping about $30 for a launcher, I do understand why and what they're trying to do. Niagara themselves had a blog post about it, how it allows them to develop without selling data etc. I respect that.

But it's also hard for me to justify $30 for a launcher. Maybe I'll feel different after the 30 day trial is up.

to be fair there's also the 10bux/year option, you don't have to pay 30bux outright

Artelier
Jan 23, 2015


Maybe VPN-ing for purchase is possible? I have premium Niagara, but when I made my purchase, it was about 30 ringgit, which is like 7-8USD. Still on the steeper side of launcher prices, but withint the realm of reasonable to me. Not sure if the pricing change is due to region or a price bump at some point, but VPN might be worth a shot.

I love Niagara though. It's so clean, and as someone who regularly switches hands when using the phone, having all of the launcher being accessible on either side is so good.

Don't think I've ever seen anyone else do things the way that it does, but I suppose you can try some of the many Minimalist launchers out there?

YggiDee
Sep 12, 2007

WASP CREW
My problem with Nova is that it started crashing on me constantly and now I use Smart Launcher which still gives me all the poo poo I wanted from Nova but it. Works.

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



This is a good chart of pretty much all the launchers.

I'm personally trying out the open source Kvaesitso lately and it seems cool. Lots of search integrations so you can search your online drive (google drive or nextcloud) local files, or a bunch of other services if you want. Up to you if you grant the permissions.

Dicty Bojangles
Apr 14, 2001

Considering the use frequency a launcher gets I’d say $30 is pretty fair price. I pay way more for my shoes even though I wear them less than half the day and many days not at all. Same goes for socks and underwear. $30 for a pair of underwear I never have to change or wash for years on end? Sign me up.

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

Still using Nova happily ... that $5 or so has lasted me over ten years. I guess I'll check out Niagara ... $30 isn't much for how much use/time I get out of these things. Like spending money on a nice keyboard/mouse, the launcher is worth it for how much I interact with my phone.

Sidenote, still using this wallpaper since discovering it nearly ten years ago: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.joko.paperlandpro

edit: ^^ like what they said

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

I see the appeal of Niagara -- it looks amazing, but it doesn't do at all what Nova does for me.

In Nova, I have all my regular apps nicely arranged on a home screen, with the ones I need to access one-handed easily reachable (the porn ones). Also widgets for information I always want at a glance. I basically use the standard app drawer as my "hidden" folder in Niagara's paradigm.

I have a second page of just games and widgets, mostly for controlling sound, and my third page is my work-related poo poo.

If Nova becomes unusable for me I have no idea what I would replace it with. Maybe the stock launchers.

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.

teethgrinder posted:

If Nova becomes unusable for me I have no idea what I would replace it with. Maybe the stock launchers.


Digital Jedi posted:

I've been using hyperion ever since Nova did whatever they did a while ago with their permission stuff.

It's been really good. Pro version is only 5 I think.

This is also what I use since getting rid of Nova.

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

Uthor posted:

This is also what I use since getting rid of Nova.
Thanks. Looks like a solid replacement and I could recreate my screens in it.

The only thing I don't like about it is the folder icons are over-sized and don't seem configurable.

Also not major, but weirdly adding widgets they're set double the height than they should be. Can be fixed after they're placed though. Just a nuisance if your screens are already near full.

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.
Yeah, I remember it taking a while to get used to all the minor differences. It's second nature at this point.

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

It's literally just those 1.5 things for me.

I even got another row of launcher icons to use as the built in weather widget is half the height of the one I had been using. Unfortunately not enough to get rid of my folders heh.

But the folders are really key to not giving a gently caress about the app drawer. That said, this was also a good opportunity to purge unused old apps.

edit: one small bug, seems I cannot rearrange the left-most page no matter what. Oh well. I also like having one entirely blank page to gaze at my live wall paper when bored, but this won't let you. Not exactly a dealbreaker lol.

teethgrinder fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Dec 6, 2023

Kheldarn
Feb 17, 2011



teethgrinder posted:

I even got another row of launcher icons to use as the built in weather widget is half the height of the one I had been using.

Speaking of, what's everyone using for weather widgets these days?

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

After losing HD Widgets I went on a mission to find one I liked. Been happy with Today Weather. Still use a 4x1 row from it for the upcoming week's predictions. The app forecast screen clicking through from the widget are really detailed and nicely laid out as well.

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.

teethgrinder posted:

Been happy with Today Weather.

Same. I like having a simple icon set of plain line art and this app has that option. Let's you mess with the color if you want plain white icons with zero details like I do (though I had to add a translucent background with my current wallpaper...)

Echophonic
Sep 16, 2005

ha;lp
Gun Saliva
I'm still using Appy Weather.

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



Kheldarn posted:

Speaking of, what's everyone using for weather widgets these days?

Kvaesitso has a built in widget.

Serotoning
Sep 14, 2010

D&D: HASBARA SQUAD
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We're fighting human animals and we act accordingly

Kheldarn posted:

Speaking of, what's everyone using for weather widgets these days?

I use Today Weather with the Ongoing Notification feature. Don't need weather info constantly on my homepage, just what's going on now in the notification shade and a one-off notification for the expected conditions today.

effika
Jun 19, 2005
Birds do not want you to know any more than you already do.
What's a good camera app for my Pixel 7? The native camera app's recent update has made it so my phone takes a really long time to focus (if it can) and hid the brightness sliders (etc) and Night Sight (??) behind a menu.

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



Kheldarn posted:

Speaking of, what's everyone using for weather widgets these days?

I've used Weather Underground forever, although I pay for no-ads so am not sure if it is the same as the free version.

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.

Serotoning posted:

I use Today Weather with the Ongoing Notification feature. Don't need weather info constantly on my homepage, just what's going on now in the notification shade and a one-off notification for the expected conditions today.

I didn't know this existed! Been using their widget forever. Playing with it now, may end up getting rid of the widget.

The only thing I don't like is it seems like I need to have an icon always showing up next to my clock. Don't see a way to toggle that off.

Branch Nvidian
Nov 29, 2012



When Google updated the At A Glance widget to their new design UI I switched to using Another Widget set up exactly like the old At A Glance.

Got a free account with one of the supported weather providers, synced it up and now it's like Google never changed that widget.

Serotoning
Sep 14, 2010

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Uthor posted:

I didn't know this existed! Been using their widget forever. Playing with it now, may end up getting rid of the widget.

The only thing I don't like is it seems like I need to have an icon always showing up next to my clock. Don't see a way to toggle that off.

Yes, I believe that is now a requirement for having an ongoing notification in Android, so no way to work around that.

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010

I have a media file, usually audio, on my PC and I want to be able to jump between listening to it from PC and listening to it from my android phone, as conveniently as possible.
Is there a media player that could allow me to do that? The PC and the phone in question are always on the same Wifi network.

Echophonic
Sep 16, 2005

ha;lp
Gun Saliva
PlexAmp should be able to do that, a quick googling suggests it's at least passable.

Tree Reformat
Apr 2, 2022

by Fluffdaddy
I've (finally) decided I'm uncomfortable with Google eating my family photos for AI training, and have decided to disable it going forward. My 4a is in its last year of service, so I was going to need to do this anyway.

What's the goon approved Google Photos replacement? Offline-only is fine if need be, I'm used to making manual backups.

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



Proton Drive would probably give you the easiest path toward a similar experience with a focus on privacy.

https://www.theverge.com/2023/12/7/23991301/proton-drive-photos-android-sync

Tree Reformat
Apr 2, 2022

by Fluffdaddy

Nitrousoxide posted:

Proton Drive would probably give you the easiest path toward a similar experience with a focus on privacy.

https://www.theverge.com/2023/12/7/23991301/proton-drive-photos-android-sync

Okay, to be more clear, I'm more interested in an offline album app than a "sync stuff online" app for my photos.

VelociBacon
Dec 8, 2009

Tree Reformat posted:

I've (finally) decided I'm uncomfortable with Google eating my family photos for AI training, and have decided to disable it going forward. My 4a is in its last year of service, so I was going to need to do this anyway.

What's the goon approved Google Photos replacement? Offline-only is fine if need be, I'm used to making manual backups.

I use Syncthing and I'm super happy with it. It runs in a client on my windows server and whenever I'm on my home wifi it scans a designated folder on my phone (photos and videos) and backs them up to a designated folder on my server. It's extremely lightweight and I'm sure if you're a computer toucher you could make even more use of it. The windows shell or whatever is called synctrayzor.

Just a huge warning - you have to set this up such that the destination folder for the backup is passively copying over what's in the source folder. It's possible to set this up wrong and have your phone wipe all your poo poo because it's trying to mimic an empty destination folder. It's pretty clear how to set this up so it doesn't happen but I wanted to mention it.


e: This is a backup only type of situation, it's not going to host these files but since they're just in a directory I'm sure you could find some software that would do that.

calandryll
Apr 25, 2003

Ask me where I do my best drinking!



Pillbug

Tree Reformat posted:

I've (finally) decided I'm uncomfortable with Google eating my family photos for AI training, and have decided to disable it going forward. My 4a is in its last year of service, so I was going to need to do this anyway.

What's the goon approved Google Photos replacement? Offline-only is fine if need be, I'm used to making manual backups.

If you feel like rolling your own setup. I've been using Immich for about a month now, if you feel comfortable rolling your own setup. Everything is done locally.

Dicty Bojangles
Apr 14, 2001

What's a good VPN connection manager? Ideally something like Passepartout on iOS - I'm looking for something that will handle automatic connections whenever I'm on wifi networks other than my home network.

OneSizeFitsAll
Sep 13, 2010

Du bist mein Sofa
With my phone's (S22) latest update, Swype has stopped working, which has led me to discover that it was discontinued a while back.

What's a good replacement? My favourite aspects of Swype were the swiping itself, and the ability to capitalise by swiping up off the top of the screen after the letter in question, though I'd accept losing the latter ability for a generally good swiping type keyboard.

Swiftkey looks like a good bet maybe?

Serotoning
Sep 14, 2010

D&D: HASBARA SQUAD
HANG 'EM HIGH


We're fighting human animals and we act accordingly

OneSizeFitsAll posted:

With my phone's (S22) latest update, Swype has stopped working, which has led me to discover that it was discontinued a while back.

What's a good replacement? My favourite aspects of Swype were the swiping itself, and the ability to capitalise by swiping up off the top of the screen after the letter in question, though I'd accept losing the latter ability for a generally good swiping type keyboard.

Swiftkey looks like a good bet maybe?

When's the last time you used Gboard (the default google keyboard, at least on most phones). It's great and handles swiping well.

OneSizeFitsAll
Sep 13, 2010

Du bist mein Sofa

Serotoning posted:

When's the last time you used Gboard (the default google keyboard, at least on most phones). It's great and handles swiping well.

Mine doesn't have it - it has Samsung Keyboard as the default. Obviously I can download Gboard - would you recommend it over Swiftkey/other options, I assume?

YggiDee
Sep 12, 2007

WASP CREW
SwiftKey's autocorrect is getting worse over time I think, I'll (correctly) type "Thinking" and SwiftKey wants to change it to "think ING" and I have no loving clue why it would do that. If I misspell a difficult word the autocorrect will suggest a different, equally wrong spelling. It's not every time but it's enough to be obnoxious.

OneSizeFitsAll
Sep 13, 2010

Du bist mein Sofa
Just tried Swiftkeys and Gboard out and both seem good. As per above, one thing I liked in Swype was the ability to manually capitalise a letter by swiping it then swiping off the top of the keyboard. That doesn't work on Swiftkeys or Gboard but do either have an equivalent function, acheived differently?

hotsauce
Jan 14, 2007
So Niagara is now...$30? Wow, That's a bridge too far in my opinion. I paid yearly a couple of times and of course now I'm pissed I didn't pay the $7 a few weeks back.

repiv
Aug 13, 2009

the yearly option is still there, 30bux is to buy it for life

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

OneSizeFitsAll posted:

With my phone's (S22) latest update, Swype has stopped working, which has led me to discover that it was discontinued a while back.

What's a good replacement? My favourite aspects of Swype were the swiping itself, and the ability to capitalise by swiping up off the top of the screen after the letter in question, though I'd accept losing the latter ability for a generally good swiping type keyboard.

Swiftkey looks like a good bet maybe?
As a diehard Swype user, Swiftkey I felt was closest. But I've been using it for a few years and haven't tried Gboard or others again since. I miss how good Swype was at capitalisation and punctuation.

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Serotoning
Sep 14, 2010

D&D: HASBARA SQUAD
HANG 'EM HIGH


We're fighting human animals and we act accordingly

OneSizeFitsAll posted:

Just tried Swiftkeys and Gboard out and both seem good. As per above, one thing I liked in Swype was the ability to manually capitalise a letter by swiping it then swiping off the top of the keyboard. That doesn't work on Swiftkeys or Gboard but do either have an equivalent function, acheived differently?

Long press the Shift key. Drag your finger to any letter and release. Should work. I think you can also start a swipe on the shift key or something?

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