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Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Noxville posted:

You say 'nothing to show for it' - he got weeks of exposure, and exposure is what he thrives on.

That's the thing, though, he barely got any screen time because he wouldn't stfu about politics and they can't air any of that footage

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Nuclear Spoon
Aug 18, 2010

I want to cry out
but I don’t scream and I don’t shout
And I feel so proud
to be alive
are government officials forbidden from using disappearing messages

SomeKindofVerb
Jan 12, 2010
Hey everyone, I don't post often but I wondered if you could help me with something; I got a message from my GP from a couple of student doctors asking to talk to me about my future screenings for a project they're doing on transgender care and screenings, given that I am indeed trans and they might need a little more attention paid to them, so I said absolutely, but now that I think about it, how did they know I was trans? Should a couple of student doctors just casually have access to my medical record?

As it happens the conversation we had was pretty engaging and felt helpful for all of us, so in context I'm not too put out, but I'm not sure how I feel about the precedent of them being able to just ask the database to summon the transes and I guess I'm just curious about the legality of people's ability to search up this information.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Did they specifically want to talk to you or did the request go to your doctor who contacted you?

If the latter then... presumably that's the only way you could contact people for medical studies outside of depending entirely on volunteering. I guess the assumption would be that they have that information on file because you told your doctor already so they might see you on a database as "trans patient #42069" and if they want more information you doctor has to speak to you about it.

Basically you can conceivably compartmentalize information like that so it doesn't necessarily mean they can just medigoogle all your personal info.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

It might be that the doctor reached out to you pseudo-anonymously in that the students know that you exist, but are only allowed to know your name as like, Potential Volunteer 123 until you affirmed interest.

I'd assume it's the same way that someone with any condition might have their GP reach out on behalf of The Condition UK to do further research, since otherwise The Condition UK have to start going door to door like Marilyn Manson.

SomeKindofVerb
Jan 12, 2010
It wasn't my doctor, I just got a text from my surgery from the two students doctors themselves, and in talking to them there was an implication they had talked to a reasonable number of us. I can fully believe there's a caveat somewhere that allows for it, your suggestions make sense, and I didn't object to talking to them, I guess the concept of that information being too accessible is just making something at the back of my head itchy.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

That does sound weird then yeah...

I wonder if there's some opt in/out thing?

When I was a kid I went to the doctor about a bollock lump and after he had a squeeze he called in a junior doctor and had him do it too for some practical experience.

So the NHS is in my opinion slightly odd about how wide your invitation to bollock fondling is, literally and/or metaphorically.

OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 19:07 on Dec 11, 2023

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
If it's a teaching practice and the students are on placement with the practice, they're as entitled to search the GP database as anyone who works there is.
If the GP practice just sent out person-identifiable information to the first group of student doctors who came calling, that would be a breach of Information Governance. And given what GP practices are like, it's probably 50:50 either way, tbh.

domhal
Dec 30, 2008


0.000% of Communism has been built. Evil child-murdering billionaires still rule the world with a shit-eating grin. All he has managed to do is make himself *sad*. It has, however, made him into a very, very smart boy with something like a university degree in Truth. Instead of building Communism, he now builds a precise model of this grotesque, duplicitous world.

Tesseraction posted:

That's the thing, though, he barely got any screen time because he wouldn't stfu about politics and they can't air any of that footage

Release the Farage cut!

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Betjeman posted:

He's got all the power, all he needs to do is threaten an election
Typical Tory reaction.

*listening in earpiece*

Oh an eLection.

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

OwlFancier posted:


When I was a kid I went to the doctor about a bollock lump and after he had a squeeze he called in a junior doctor and had him do it too for some practical experience.

So the NHS is in my opinion slightly odd about how wide your invitation to bollock fondling is, literally and/or metaphorically.

Was this at Stoke Mandeville back in the 70's/80's ?

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Are we about to get a Touching goon reunion?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Trainee PornStar posted:

Was this at Stoke Mandeville back in the 70's/80's ?

Not that old I'm afraid :v: would have been in the late 90's-early 00's probably at south cleveland.

I don't think there was anything untoward about it necessarily just was a bit "erm, I came to see you not for you to invite everyone to have a go" at the time.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

OwlFancier posted:

That does sound weird then yeah...

I wonder if there's some opt in/out thing?

When I was a kid I went to the doctor about a bollock lump and after he had a squeeze he called in a junior doctor and had him do it too for some practical experience.

So the NHS is in my opinion slightly odd about how wide your invitation to bollock fondling is, literally and/or metaphorically.

I had that just a few years ago. Not my bollock, something on my foot, the doctor said it was a textbook example of whatever harmless thing it was and got the students in to check it out.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

"Hey every come 'ere and check out this weird bollock and/or foot"

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Get the new boy and tell him there's a textbook example of bofa.

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

I like being a teaching case. Feels like you're doing some good, you know? The second last thing I remember before my butt surgery on my butt was seeing the surgeon and several students/junior doctors crowding round to get a good look

The last thing I remember is saying "hey can you turn up the Propofol, I still seem to be awake" :v:

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

OwlFancier posted:

Not that old I'm afraid :v: would have been in the late 90's-early 00's probably at south cleveland.

I don't think there was anything untoward about it necessarily just was a bit "erm, I came to see you not for you to invite everyone to have a go" at the time.

South Cleveland eh?

YOURE SIMPLY THE BEST

SOUTH CLEVELAND GARAAAAGES

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

Bobby Deluxe posted:

Are we about to get a Touching goon reunion?

I gotta admit that would have been awesome if I'd turned out to be that doc lol

Endjinneer
Aug 17, 2005
Fallen Rib
My experience is that NHS teaching hospitals lean heavily on the presumption of a genial "well they've got to learn somewhere" attitude to the student doctors. Which is fair enough, but sometimes it would be nice if they warned you there was going to be 20 of them watching.

Brendan Rodgers
Jun 11, 2014




Trainee PornStar posted:

I gotta admit that would have been awesome if I'd turned out to be that doc lol

Bet you could pick his scrotum out of a lineup

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Jakabite posted:

South Cleveland eh?

YOURE SIMPLY THE BEST

SOUTH CLEVELAND GARAAAAGES

I'm not sure if they called it james cook then.

But yes I do also have that advert permanently engraved into my brain :v:

Endjinneer posted:

My experience is that NHS teaching hospitals lean heavily on the presumption of a genial "well they've got to learn somewhere" attitude to the student doctors. Which is fair enough, but sometimes it would be nice if they warned you there was going to be 20 of them watching.

At least if it's your bollocks or equivalent at any rate.

Runcible Cat
May 28, 2007

Ignoring this post

Endjinneer posted:

My experience is that NHS teaching hospitals lean heavily on the presumption of a genial "well they've got to learn somewhere" attitude to the student doctors. Which is fair enough, but sometimes it would be nice if they warned you there was going to be 20 of them watching.

I've always been asked first if I'm happy to have a load of students look at the weird lump on my stoma or whatever I'm going under the knife for that time. I'm fine with that; a few more people seeing my innards isn't a problem.

They're even in a medical textbook somewhere, I'm told.

Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008


Nap Ghost

Runcible Cat posted:

I've always been asked first if I'm happy to have a load of students look at the weird lump on my stoma or whatever I'm going under the knife for that time. I'm fine with that; a few more people seeing my innards isn't a problem.

They're even in a medical textbook somewhere, I'm told.

When I last went to a podiatry clinic, they had students doing all the initial analysis and an I assume fully qualified podiatrist going round checking how they were doing. But he was testing them on their reasoning in depth, so I sat there really awkwardly while some poor student panicked and gave apparently increasingly wrong answers about what might be the problem with my foot and why they thought it was the case. I felt really sorry for them cause they were getting super flustered and the podiatrist was pretty abrupt with them.

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"
lol the tory "moderates" have naturally immediately caved and say they will vote for the bill as is.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

a pipe smoking dog posted:

lol the tory "moderates" have naturally immediately caved and say they will vote for the bill as is.

That's still only 120 votes. Rishi has a lot more work to do

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

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Hello, dear
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crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
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crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
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Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

a pipe smoking dog posted:

lol the tory "moderates" have naturally immediately caved and say they will vote for the bill as is.

The Tory 'moderates' were the ones pushing this bill. It's the apeshit far right who are throwing their toys out of the pram because it's not a blatant enough violation of international law for their tastes.

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

In NI news the Secretary of State came over today and waved a big cheque for 2 biiiiiilllion pounds under Sir Jeffrey’s nose like someone with a bone trying to teach a dog to sit. Jeffrey didn’t sit and instead shat all over the carpet

Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

smellmycheese posted:

In NI news the Secretary of State came over today and waved a big cheque for 2 biiiiiilllion pounds under Sir Jeffrey’s nose like someone with a bone trying to teach a dog to sit. Jeffrey didn’t sit and instead shat all over the carpet

Is Jeffrey getting near the stage that if he compromises in any way the DUP looses their support base?

Clyde Radcliffe
Oct 19, 2014

Failed Imagineer posted:

Messages disappear if you disable the auto-backup, or if you happen to change phones before certain incriminating texts happen to be auto-backedup. Both of which would be pretty convenient, but I'd least understand a Govt device where cloud backups are turned off by default

I find it incredible that people running the country are allowed to even use WhatsApp to the extent that their messages would be important to an inquiry.

My pointless computer touching job contract explicitly forbids using any communication that's outside the purview of corporate IT, because all comms have to be discoverable in the event of a legal dispute. I know at least one sales person who got sacked because he was promising undeliverable services to a client via his personal email, which only cropped up when the client used the emails as part of their complaint.

Our sales people and others who have regular contact with clients have company phones that are completely managed by corp IT and can only have approved apps installed. And nothing our company does is remotely as important as managing a national pandemic strategy.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

The people who would have to agree to that regulation are the government, and they're not going to vote to regulate themselves.

fatninja187
Oct 4, 2013

Beware the ninja

Clyde Radcliffe posted:

I find it incredible that people running the country are allowed to even use WhatsApp to the extent that their messages would be important to an inquiry.

My pointless computer touching job contract explicitly forbids using any communication that's outside the purview of corporate IT, because all comms have to be discoverable in the event of a legal dispute. I know at least one sales person who got sacked because he was promising undeliverable services to a client via his personal email, which only cropped up when the client used the emails as part of their complaint.

Our sales people and others who have regular contact with clients have company phones that are completely managed by corp IT and can only have approved apps installed. And nothing our company does is remotely as important as managing a national pandemic strategy.

Yes but they legit believe that consequences are only for poor people.

Sad part is they aren't wrong :(

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

Just Another Lurker posted:

Is Jeffrey getting near the stage that if he compromises in any way the DUP looses their support base?

Any compromise will annoy the headbangers in his party. The other factor is that he absolutely does not want to go down in history as the first unionist to play second fiddle to Sinn Fein at Stormont.

Clyde Radcliffe
Oct 19, 2014

smellmycheese posted:

In NI news the Secretary of State came over today and waved a big cheque for 2 biiiiiilllion pounds under Sir Jeffrey’s nose like someone with a bone trying to teach a dog to sit. Jeffrey didn’t sit and instead shat all over the carpet

|'ve watched enough Channel 4 shows about badly behaved dogs to know that positive reinforcement is the best method of puppy training. Maybe offer him a little Union fleg or an expenses-paid video rental of Splendours of the rear end* every time he gets a bit closer to restoring devolved government.

* Fundamentalist Christian homophobe Sir Jeffrey has categorically denied the £660 of hotel pay-per-view movies he expensed contained top-tier streams limited to the highest price category containing recent blockbuster releases and hardcore porn, despite them being listed as such on his expense claims

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Trainee PornStar posted:

I gotta admit that would have been awesome if I'd turned out to be that doc lol

Not sure about the post/username combo here...:ohdear:

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Johnny Sins is a very talented man in many fields.

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Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

OwlFancier posted:

At least if it's your bollocks or equivalent at any rate.

Most people are quite happy to have their chest listened to or their abdomens prodded.

Fewer are up for having their genitals manhandled so if you're one of the kind souls who agrees then you can be sure the students are going to queue up.

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