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DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Real Mean Queen posted:

That too. It seems like the running theme is that nobody knows how to do anything, combined with nobody wanting to do grunt work because they're all colonels. So it's kinda "of course I can poo poo here, I already am" combined with "well if I wasn't supposed to eat this then why isn't somebody cooking new food for me," just boundless stupidity and arrogance in a situation that doesn't have a lot of room for either

loving up the water supply probably isn't helping much

Nobody has time to dig a toilet pit, they're all too busy sewing gold braids onto their land admiral uniforms

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Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

MadSparkle posted:

If you don't support this genocide, you're not safe being Jewish?

If you don't support the genocide you ain't jewish, jack!

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Huh. Interesting disclosure.

hubris.height
Jan 6, 2005

Pork Pro

Frosted Flake posted:

Yes, as explained here,

So to tie it into Gradenko's research on Arab militaries, and the WW3 thread's discussion of the Gulf War being the worst thing that happened to NATO, it turns out the US severely overestimated the damage they did to Iraqi tanks in the Persian Gulf War. Specifically, they greatly overestimated the lethality of their armour piercing darts, the ones made of depleted uranium.

Understandably, Iraqi crews took off running as soon as their tanks were penetrated, often as soon as they were hit, but the actual damage done to most of them by US tank guns was not as great as imagined - unless they blew up outright. This is actually a problem for the US, because, supposing the overall battle had gone in a different direction, many of them were reparable, many of them had no fatalities and minor-to-moderate wounds among some part - but not all - of the 3 man crew. Planning around the assumption that every shot totally destroyed the enemy (which seemed to be the case because the Iraqis had low morale and were eager to hit the bricks) would lead to problems if, say, a US proxy was armed with NATO tanks and went on an offensive against an opposing force using Soviet pattern tanks....

The US had believed that the energy of the darts piercing the armour would destroy everything behind them, or the uranium would set the air in the crew compartment on fire, or any number of other things, but, being a dense rod of uranium, they created a 20-40mm hole, that destroyed anything behind it, and not much else.

Clip-On Fedora
Feb 20, 2011

Willa Rogers posted:

If you don't support the genocide you ain't jewish, jack!

I have long said: If Fascist Genocidal Jews didn't exist, we would have to invent them.

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Willa Rogers posted:

that, or give us a list of accounts to follow, al-saqr.


i only follow the following news channels for 100% reliability.

aljazeera

https://x.com/ajarabic?s=11&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg

aljazeera breakinf

https://x.com/ajabreaking?s=21&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg

alaraby

https://x.com/alarabytv?s=21&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg

any other account i post i would consider rumors and speculation or opinion

Morbus
May 18, 2004

PoontifexMacksimus posted:

What were the results of using IEDs against Abrams tanks in Iraq/Afghanistan? Was there any real success rate?

A decent sized EFP will penetrate the main armor of an Abrams from the back, side, top, or bottom. Simpler things like just daisy chained artillery shells can easily cause a mobility kill. I don't know if there are reliable statistics for the 2003+ Iraq war, but there are at least a couple dozen reasonably well documented losses.

The main thing to remember is the penetrating capability of a HEAT munition basically scales with the diameter of the liner, and is generally between 1.5 and 8 times the diameter, depending on materials and design. For an ATGM, weight, size, and center of gravity considerations put some serious limitations on warhead diameter that are very much relaxed for an IED or mine. So it is not that hard to match the performance of the best ATGMs with pretty crude IEDs.

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

Al-Saqr posted:

i only follow the following news channels for 100% reliability.

aljazeera

https://x.com/ajarabic?s=11&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg

aljazeera breakinf

https://x.com/ajabreaking?s=21&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg

alaraby

https://x.com/alarabytv?s=21&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg

any other account i post i would consider rumors and speculation or opinion

thanks, you're an :angel:

quoting to find easily when I need to.

fosborb
Dec 15, 2006



Chronic Good Poster

Al-Saqr posted:

i only follow the following news channels for 100% reliability.

aljazeera

https://x.com/ajarabic?s=11&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg

aljazeera breakinf

https://x.com/ajabreaking?s=21&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg

alaraby

https://x.com/alarabytv?s=21&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg

any other account i post i would consider rumors and speculation or opinion

+1 on these follows, fwiw

conversely, the risk of hosed up videos being posted in the replies on these accounts is super high.

they're good sources of actual reporting on facts, but if you don't want to see crying doctors holding their own dead children, avoid the comments

MadSparkle
Aug 7, 2012

Can Bernie count on you to add to our chest's mad sparkle? Can you spare a little change for an old buccaneer?

Willa Rogers posted:

If you don't support the genocide you ain't jewish, jack!

All these years being in this country... But I have no idea why I started to think the "If you're not with us, you're against us" sentiment was starting to go away. It's clearly not and I feel dumb for thinking it ever was. We've got a few more years of stupidity.

I do think things are going to be very different in a few years though, whether or not they like it. Tides are starting to turn, that dumb type of language is going to fall flat not too long from now and I hope I will be alive to see that poo poo in action, because I think this is the desperate, last zombie grab.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
2016 video of houthis blowing up a UAE catamaran.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

EFPs were a later development after basic IEDs, and by then I think the army was mostly in MRAP mode, so iunno how many examples of abrams getting got there actually are from the mid-2000s

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

fosborb posted:

+1 on these follows, fwiw

conversely, the risk of hosed up videos being posted in the replies on these accounts is super high.

they're good sources of actual reporting on facts, but if you don't want to see crying doctors holding their own dead children, avoid the comments

yes be very careful, arab media are nowhere near as sensitive as american media so dont scroll these accounts haphazardly unless you want your day ruined or like me youre too far gone from decades of exposure.

Sancho Banana
Aug 4, 2023

Not to be confused with meat.

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

How IDF soldiers sleep knowing they're traumatized by all the childkilling they've done:



https://youtube.com/watch?si=nWtE33YkP5gGauV9&v=NdJUBla_zWk&feature=youtu.be

Hatebag
Jun 17, 2008


male -1 gaybrams, absolutely penetrated. hot loads shooting out all over the buttlefield

Morbus
May 18, 2004

i say swears online posted:

EFPs were a later development after basic IEDs, and by then I think the army was mostly in MRAP mode, so iunno how many examples of abrams getting got there actually are from the mid-2000s

I dunno, it's hard to find concrete statistics, but there are at least several documented losses. This guy tried to make a list at some point:
https://www.reddit.com/r/DestroyedTanks/comments/14yykfx/comprehensive_and_up_to_date_list_of_m1_abrams/

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
Nazi judge got popped

====

‎News that shocked the academic community in Israel

‎The army informs the family of Judge Avraham Zarbiev, a law professor at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, and a reserve officer, of his killing in the Shujaiya axis. His last appearance was from a school hall in Gaza, writing Nazi phrases, as is clear in the picture.

https://x.com/r_gapas2/status/1734262387329425667?s=46&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
Fat american colonialists signing tank shells, people are on the case trying to identify these people

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYhnr5enasc


The west bank goes on strike for Gaza

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdEn95WPAhk

Al-Saqr has issued a correction as of 07:01 on Dec 12, 2023

Clip-On Fedora
Feb 20, 2011

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

How IDF soldiers sleep knowing they're traumatized by all the childkilling they've done:



They make Waltz with Bashir

Sancho Banana
Aug 4, 2023

Not to be confused with meat.
"Netanyahu: Oslo - A disaster that brought the same number of victims as October 7th"

https://twitter.com/N12News/status/1734320866706558995?t=LeCVsiKxknvdnMoJrW9ZTA&s=19

quote:

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said today (Monday) in the Foreign Affairs and Security Committee that "Oslo is a disaster that brought with it the same number of victims as October 7th, over a longer period of time." Earlier in the debate, he said that "the Palestinian Authority wants to destroy us", a statement that constitutes a significant worsening of Netanyahu's criticism of the PA.

The Prime Minister defined the Oslo Accords as a "fundamental mistake", and added: "They took the most anti-Zionist and anti-Jewish factor and brought it here. If you want to make an agreement, don't bring the worst and place them at the heart of the country. The difference between Hamas and the Palestinian Authority is just that Hamas wants to destroy us here and now and the PA wants to do it in stages," Netanyahu said in a special discussion held in the Knesset's Foreign Affairs and Security Committee.

From the moment discussions on the day after the war began, the Prime Minister has been repeating the message that the PA in its current form can't control the Strip, among other things because it pays salaries to the families of terrorists who were killed or are in prison. In the political system, his position is explained, among other things, as an attempt to differentiate himself from Gantz and Lapid as part of the political struggle that is expected to escalate when the current phase of the war ends.

Representatives of the hostages' families arrived today at the Foreign Affairs and Security Committee and called for the release of their relatives. The representatives emphasized the urgency to move towards a deal or dialogue in order to return them from Hamas' captivity. "You have a historic job to release the hostages and then get out - we'll settle the score later, now return to me and to all the families what you've forsaken" said one of the representatives.

66 days have passed since October 7th, the day when men, women and children were kidnapped by Hamas. During a discussion on changes in the applicability of the law on the imprisonment of illegal combatants held in the Foreign Affairs and Security Committee, representatives of the hostages' families came in and urged the members of the committee to act to release them all. "We saw the fruits of the [exchange] deal, a military operation doesn't lead to such a result, we can be smart and not just right," said a relative of the Bibas family.

Last month, the Prime Minister stated to the media that "Gaza will be demilitarized, there will be no threat in the Strip to the State of Israel. To ensure this, for as long as It's necessary, the IDF will continue to control the Strip to prevent terrorism from it. The massacre proved that wherever there is no Israeli control - terrorism comes back and establishes itself and hits us, this was also proven in [the west bank]." He even pledged: "Gaza will not be ruled by an authority that pays murderers and whose head has not condemned the massacre even after a month passed."

Burn Zone
May 22, 2004



BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

2016 video of houthis blowing up a UAE catamaran.

thanks, updated the post

Bastard Tetris
Apr 27, 2005

L-Shaped


Nap Ghost

Biden just fundamentally does not understand this entire situation, goddamn

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
Informed Egyptian sources said that the Israeli occupation state requested the mediation of Egypt and Qatar in order to reach a prisoner exchange deal within the framework of a new humanitarian truce with the Islamic Resistance Movement “Hamas,” according to Sky News Arabia.

https://x.com/arabi21news/status/1734460070698865144?s=46&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg

King of Solomon
Oct 23, 2008

S S

Bastard Tetris posted:

Biden just fundamentally does not understand this entire situation, goddamn

Biden being dementia-addled makes it easy to think poo poo like this, but he's just saying the same things he'd be saying if he was 30 years younger. He's a monster and he's lying, he knows what's going on and just doesn't care.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Bastard Tetris posted:

Biden just fundamentally does not understand this entire situation, goddamn

That's certainly one interpretation and let us hope it is correct.

Another less charitable one might be that he regrets the Israeli influence preventing him from running all the Jews out of town or something, like in an olde timey western.

However I'm certain it was just a freudian slip of an old confused individual. Surely.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Al-Saqr posted:

Nazi judge got popped

====

‎News that shocked the academic community in Israel

‎The army informs the family of Judge Avraham Zarbiev, a law professor at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, and a reserve officer, of his killing in the Shujaiya axis. His last appearance was from a school hall in Gaza, writing Nazi phrases, as is clear in the picture.

https://x.com/r_gapas2/status/1734262387329425667?s=46&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg

They should be spreading this on prison twitter.

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
israeli government telling families of prisoners to go protest at Qatar and not them

=====


The Minister of Strategic Affairs and Netanyahu's closest confidant asked the relatives of the Israeli hostages to speak out against Qatar and demonstrate in front of its embassy if they were in washington according to Israeli Channel 13.

https://x.com/ajarabic/status/1734449249440665734?s=46&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
Netanyahu is making GBS threads his diapers and acting like when Hitler was looking at the plans for Berlins Urban Renewal in 1945.

=============================================

Urgent | Netanyahu: The Gaza Strip will be under Israeli military control after the war

Urgent | Netanyahu: We will establish a civil administration in the Gaza Strip after the war, and it will be rehabilitated under the leadership of the Palestinian Authority

https://x.com/AJABreaking/status/1734473843333292478?s=20


lol bibi you're so funny.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Bastard Tetris posted:

Biden just fundamentally does not understand this entire situation, goddamn

Biden is a nazi, and he has always been like this.

hey mom its 420
May 12, 2007

Bastard Tetris posted:

Biden just fundamentally does not understand this entire situation, goddamn
oh he understands
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYLNCcLfIkM

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Al-Saqr posted:

Netanyahu is making GBS threads his diapers and acting like when Hitler was looking at the plans for Berlins Urban Renewal in 1945.

=============================================

Urgent | Netanyahu: The Gaza Strip will be under Israeli military control after the war

Urgent | Netanyahu: We will establish a civil administration in the Gaza Strip after the war, and it will be rehabilitated under the leadership of the Palestinian Authority

https://x.com/AJABreaking/status/1734473843333292478?s=20


lol bibi you're so funny.

lol Israel will never be able to hold Gaza. There will always be a resistance against them, this is about the only thing I feel can be guaranteed. The State of Israel will always be really expensive to maintain so long as they treat Palestinians as less than humans.

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
There's a whole bunch of 'centrist' to 'centre-left' US publications that I've finally sworn off and unbookmarked thanks to this whole college campus thing. It's just too loving infuriating to see all these dipshit liberals writing articles that go: "Hmm, yes, of course it's sad that all those children are dying in Gaza, but let's talk about the REAL problem here: demonstrations are happening at universities that could be taken as calling for Jewish genocide, if you're a disingenuous prick, that is."

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Sancho Banana
Aug 4, 2023

Not to be confused with meat.

I said come in! posted:

lol Israel will never be able to hold Gaza. There will always be a resistance against them, this is about the only thing I feel can be guaranteed. The State of Israel will always be really expensive to maintain so long as they treat Palestinians as less than humans.

Successfully destroying Hamas and securing Gaza is the only way Bibi will get out of this in good shape other than fleeing to America and getting immunity from prosecution, and he currently seems to be going for both. He's banking on the unlikely but more advantageous options for himself rather than facing reality and cutting his losses. The IDF will not win and secure the strip, and the Americans might just throw him to the dogs when this is all over.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Sancho Banana posted:

Successfully destroying Hamas and securing Gaza is the only way Bibi will get out of this in good shape other than fleeing to America and getting immunity from prosecution, and he currently seems to be going for both. He's banking on the unlikely but more advantageous options for himself rather than facing reality and cutting his losses. The IDF will not win and secure the strip, and the Americans might just throw him to the dogs when this is all over.

It would be hilarious if he fled to America. Do you think that is a pretty high possibility? I thought of it as one but figured that would be absurd.

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
Soon

https://x.com/ammaralihassan/status/1734346175141306810?s=20

Bastard Tetris
Apr 27, 2005

L-Shaped


Nap Ghost

lol I stand corrected, unlike nearly every boomer I know that's seen Israel going full genocide over the past two months he still thinks it's 1980

Sancho Banana
Aug 4, 2023

Not to be confused with meat.

I said come in! posted:

It would be hilarious if he fled to America. Do you think that is a pretty high possibility? I thought of it as one but figured that would be absurd.

Him recently getting diplomatic passports for himself, Likud members and his son certainly raises some eyebrows, but overall the possibility of him pulling this off and getting out unscathed (even just disregarding the chance of him getting murdered in the streets) seems low to me. For America, it would be far better at this point to throw "the Likud regime" under the bus.

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010


If you don't support the segregationist, you're not black.

If you don't support the genocide, you're not a Jew.

What next?

Clip-On Fedora
Feb 20, 2011

I said come in! posted:

It would be hilarious if he fled to America. Do you think that is a pretty high possibility? I thought of it as one but figured that would be absurd.

Have you heard him talk in English? He sounds just like Brad Garett. He could easily do this.

Bastard Tetris posted:

Biden just fundamentally does not understand this entire situation, goddamn

Sadly no. As the other posters have pointed out, this is coming from the part of his brain that still functions.

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V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

ansarallah hitting ships going up through the red sea is risky but also a huge flex. if they can do this with impunity they're basically signalling that they're able and willing to shut down the suez canal, which is an enormous amount of leverage on the entire global economy

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