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Yeah I guess I'd maybe use it in a level 0 Trish deck and then upgrade out of it? Then again there's the options she can already have that are good and take up the same slots, I could see taking this, lockpicks and Cypher.
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I think Fake Credentials is just one of those cards that exists for the sake of a new character (with 4 intellect and a free parley action every turn). If an old character might possibly run it as well in some circumstance that's bonus.
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Dec 11, 2023 12:10
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It does seem like it's pretty tailor-made for Allesandra. With Fine Clothes that's a guaranteed success on everything except auto-fail for the first two clues. For everyone else it's weirdly limited. 3 resources and taking up a hand slot means you're competing with stuff like Lockpicks and Damning Testimony, as people have mentioned. Illicit means you could put it in Black Market and get it out quick/cheap with Fence, but that doesn't really seem like enough to make it worth including.
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Dec 11, 2023 13:21
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NRVNQSR posted:This phrasing is pretty normal; compare Spectral Razor, for example.
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Dec 11, 2023 13:25
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Okay, it dawns on me that you can flash your Fake Credentials at an enemy to have them let you past a locked door, which while mechanically seems still to niche, is thematically cool as hell.
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Dec 11, 2023 13:57
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Fake Credentials sounds like a must for Excelsior Hotel. Just have someone put on a suit and dual-wield the fake IDs as the sled dogs carry them through the hallways.
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Nebrilos posted:Don't you think Spectral Razor is kind of overtuned? Compare it to Blinding Light, One-two Punch and Backstab. Regarding the credentials: If it didn’t exhaust, it would be a great combo with a sleight of hand. Currently, its best combo pieces are treacheries that send your hand slots back your hand of cards. Golden Bee fucked around with this message at 16:38 on Dec 11, 2023 |
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More new cards:  Speaking of cards designed specifically for one of the new investigators. Key of Solomon is really strong, but it has to be for 4 XP and a hand slot. Nephthys fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Dec 11, 2023 |
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Dec 11, 2023 20:43
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Purified seems super good for anyone traveling with a rogue.
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Ubik_Lives posted:Okay, it dawns on me that you can flash your Fake Credentials at an enemy to have them let you past a locked door, which while mechanically seems still to niche, is thematically cool as hell. The card is thematically cool as hell just in general. *a dozen eyeball stalks glance back and forth between you and your ID* *the writhing, gelatinous mass of Yog-Sothoth, The Lurker Beyond the Threshold, shifts subtly—a nod of approval for you to proceed with your investigation*
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Kalko posted:The card is thematically cool as hell just in general.
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So you spoke to Ichtaca is what you're saying?
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Orange Devil posted:So you spoke to Ichtaca is what you're saying? We wana go back and side with humanity at some point!
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More MORE MOAR   Well-dressed is great for Alessandra, but also really good for all of those early parley tests that campaigns like to throw at you. You can then upgrade out of it. Transmogrify is pretty neat. This and Purified both feel like good cards to pair with a Rogue but also it can take the knees out from under a bunch of weaknesses. Follow this you recurring bitch! It will also stop the new Elusive trait from triggering so thats another benefit. Kates backside is verrry boring. It's another case where her deckbuilding is her class and then cards that are 95% in her class anyway. Lucky thing her ability is cool. Nephthys fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Dec 13, 2023 |
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Transmogrify is a lot of fun.
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Transmogrify is a flavour/mechanical slam dunk. Almost makes me want to try a mad scientist run for my first play-through. Note that you can grab a clue after you first attach it. Well-Dressed seems good despite its conditional, because four wild icons is a lot and some of the new parley cards seem really good. Here's all of Kate's stuff, for reference:    
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I wonder what non-seeker science cards are coming out this set, because right now science 0-4 (lmao the scientist doesn't get top level science) only gets her Emergency Aid and First Aid
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To be fair, if your last experiment killed two people on university grounds, yeah, I can imagine there would be some difficulties in getting grant approval for the most cutting edge tech.
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Ubik_Lives posted:To be fair, if your last experiment killed two people on university grounds, yeah, I can imagine there would be some difficulties in getting grant approval for the most cutting edge tech. But not by as much as you might think. This is Miskatonic U after all.
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Insight is more useful than science. Scout ahead for movement, scene of the crime for whatever enemy you’ve transmogrified. You can also take some edge case survivor and Mystic cards, especially if you like dilemmas. But like Father Mateo, her weirdo deck building might be the next box or the one after. Golden Bee fucked around with this message at 20:48 on Dec 13, 2023 |
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Excited to see some more insights trickle in for Joe.
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Omnicrom posted:But not by as much as you might think. This is Miskatonic U after all. See you say that, but archeological funding contracts limit us to killing no more than one person per accident! How are we supposed to advance our fields under these conditions?!
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Ubik_Lives posted:See you say that, but archeological funding contracts limit us to killing no more than one person per accident! How are we supposed to advance our fields under these conditions?! Invest in Teddy Bears and Leather Coats 
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How does thread feel about playing a campaign with the investigators that come with it vs any in your collection?
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No sense in restricting to the release set, they often don’t even have any plot connection to the campaign. Go nuts.
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Yeah even less so now that the new investigators and card box comes out a month or so before the new campaign.
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kaffo posted:How does thread feel about playing a campaign with the investigators that come with it vs any in your collection? I bought the campaigns in release order so I generally play the ones from the campaign unless there's an investigator better suited to it. I took Carolyn for Dream Eaters for instance. Usually their playstyle gets supported by the cards from that expansion. That doesn't matter as much on a replay though. I just use whoever I haven't played yet and looks neat then.
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kaffo posted:How does thread feel about playing a campaign with the investigators that come with it vs any in your collection? There are generally scenario challenges that are well addressed by the characters that come with it. Silas is great at fighting and evading, and both are useful against the Innsmouth monsters. Bob Jenkins plays items and you get an absolute ton of them in Edge of the Earth. If I’m going for a custom campaign, I focus on flexibility (with Amanda and Diana as standby picks).
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Interesting We decided as a group we'd try to use investigators from the same set just for fun really and to force us a little to try characters we might not pick first. But the above all makes sense.
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New Survivor cards: https://derbk.com/ancientevils/the-feast-of-hemlock-vale-hatchet-and-token-of-faith/ Hatchet is pretty wierd. It gives most investigators who can take it a huge boost, even Wendy can swing this easily, but the discard mechanic makes it awkward to use. I guess it pares decently with Pitchfork since you do need some way to handle 4+ health enemies if you're using Pitchfork as your primary weapon. You just need a way to hold both. Upgraded Token of Faith is a good upgrade, but a bit pricey for 3xp.
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Hatchet is a way for Rita to do burst damage. Hit for two, dodge. And for one XP you can keep them around, and do the killing blow when you need to, recurring with standard survivor tech. Gives her some flexibility for enemy management, because previously it was bow, magic bow, or sledgehammer.
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Token of faith seems great even at 3xp. Being able to save clutch tests from autofails is massive and the fact it works anywhere on the board for any of the other investigators too is incredible. It's also repeatable every single turn and as icing on the cake it adds bless tokens into the bag.
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KongGeorgeVII posted:Token of faith seems great even at 3xp. Being able to save clutch tests from autofails is massive and the fact it works anywhere on the board for any of the other investigators too is incredible. It's also repeatable every single turn and as icing on the cake it adds bless tokens into the bag. Well, you still suffer all the bad effects. So it's great on an investigate without haunted, a fight without retaliate, or an evade without alert. And it's good on certain objectives and "pass a test to discard this" mythos cards like Locked Door. But it's not gonna do poo poo against mythos phase tests for damage and horror, which is where most of the butt-clenching moments in the game are imo. I don't think it's very good - it'll save you an action here and there but for 3 xp? nah.
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Feels like a combo piece when you’re planning to build around curses. Fun with Jaqueline and Olive level zero; the more tokens you see you’ll get out of it.
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DontMockMySmock posted:Well, you still suffer all the bad effects. So it's great on an investigate without haunted, a fight without retaliate, or an evade without alert. And it's good on certain objectives and "pass a test to discard this" mythos cards like Locked Door. But it's not gonna do poo poo against mythos phase tests for damage and horror, which is where most of the butt-clenching moments in the game are imo. I don't think it's very good - it'll save you an action here and there but for 3 xp? nah. It saves ammo/charges too. And there are some effects like Damning Testimony that you are only allowed to try once per round. If you fail, well, gotta wait until next round.
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Impermanent posted:Hand eye coordination + big sledgehammer = ker blam Apparently someone asked the developers about this, and they clarified that Hand-Eye Coordination is meant to shave off only a single action - no cheesing Sledgehammer or any other multi-action cost weapon/tool with it. It's possible there may be a higher level version that ignores all costs, though.
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Wouldn’t want a guardian having as much fun as a seeker now would we?
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Inadequately posted:Apparently someone asked the developers about this, and they clarified that Hand-Eye Coordination is meant to shave off only a single action - no cheesing Sledgehammer or any other multi-action cost weapon/tool with it. It's possible there may be a higher level version that ignores all costs, though. Isn’t there a 0xp one that takes the sledgehammer from your discard and lets you use the triple action?
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Yeah, it's a level 0 Survivor card, though the trade-off there is that it shuffles the card you use from your discard back into your deck, so if you want to cheese it you have to dig the Sledgehammer out of your deck and toss it back in the discard again.
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Fresh new spoilers:  Vamp is a potentially interesting one. Being able to drop a tough fight/evade test to a Parley (3) is handy and can shut down quite a few of the Rogue unique weaknesses, and the sheer versatility of it means you'll usually be able to find at least some use for it. It is, admittedly, a little funny to think about how exactly it works flavor-wise. You seduce the enemy through a display of raw physical might so impressive it deals them actual damage? Not as impressed with Providential, 2xp for a one-time conditional Bless booster is a tough call, though maybe Survivors could spare the XP since they don't have much else to spend it on.
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