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Dec 5, 2002
Armchair Philistine

Bottom Liner posted:

I mean the kind that goes into the bass jack directly and you put headphones in for practicing!

Hmm, that's a good pick. Will look into what it can do with an iPad and maybe go that route.

:doh:

I looked at these recently and ended up going with a Zoom B1 Four, which I'm happy with but might not be exactly what you're looking for. Also, raw beginner, so very little base for comparison.

Also got an iRig HD 2 for use with iPad which is collecting dust

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for fucks sake
Jan 23, 2016

Thumposaurus posted:

The Fender mustang micro is pretty good albeit more guitar focused, but some of the settings can be good for basses. It also doubles as a USB interface if whoever is getting as a gift needs to record into a computer.

I can second this. It blows away the vox amplugs I had before. It is also a bluetooth receiver.

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

I want to add an octave pedal to thicken up my tone, any suggestions on where to start looking?

I'll be playing doom metal with a fuzz, maybe two engaged the whole time.

Elissimpark
May 20, 2010

Bring me the head of Auguste Escoffier.

Laserface posted:

I want to add an octave pedal to thicken up my tone, any suggestions on where to start looking?

I'll be playing doom metal with a fuzz, maybe two engaged the whole time.

Would an octave fuzz be more what you're after? I have a Hotone octave up/down and it doesn't sound very doom either before or after fuzz.

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

Is an octave fuzz actually different to one of each working together?

I checked out the soldid gold 76 and it's kinda what I want, but I was hoping to have the option of up and/or down octave instead of just up or down.

Elissimpark
May 20, 2010

Bring me the head of Auguste Escoffier.

Laserface posted:

Is an octave fuzz actually different to one of each working together?

I checked out the soldid gold 76 and it's kinda what I want, but I was hoping to have the option of up and/or down octave instead of just up or down.

I believe so, but hosed if Google will confirm that for me at the moment.

What about MXR Sub Octave Bass Fuzz? That does a sub octave as well as the octave up, from what I can see.

The Science Goy
Mar 27, 2007

Where did you learn to drive?
Octave fuzz is different than octave + fuzz. Hell, different octave fuzzes sound vastly different from each other. It's no different than how much tonal variety you can get from two different fuzz circuits.

That being said, I really dig Brassmaster type octave fuzzes, they're a can of rabid hornets waiting to murder you. They're also an octave-up fuzz, rather than octave down. Kits are available to build your own, and there's also clones like the Malekko Assmaster, VFE Woodchipper, Hiero BEAD (original Maestro pedals are very rare and very expensive)

In terms of discrete octave, there's two buckets: synthy OC2-style octaves, and clean octaves. Doomy stuff generally gravitates to the cleaner octaves (you can dirty em up plenty later) but I personally dig the OC2 nastiness, which goes to a Jojo Mayer/Nerve place when you add fuzz and expression controlled envelope. OC2 examples include the OC2, MXR vintage octave mini (only the mini for them), TC Electronics Nether, 3Leaf Octabvre. Clean octave examples include the Sub n Up, MXR not-mini octave, MXR poly blue/EHX POG/EHX Pitchfork if you want the ability to play polyphonic.

Another route is the DOD meatbox, which will do its damndest to launch the speaker right out of your speaker cabinet.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

I really like my t rex quint octave pedal but it's def synthy to the point it has a +fifth knob. But luckily my current original project is a post punk one so it works.

What I really had to watch out for was latency. Some OC pedals are terrible for that. The T Rex is amazing at neutralizing that issue.

Captain Splendid
Jan 7, 2009

Qu'en pense Caffarelli?

Bottom Liner posted:

Anyone have a rec for a headphone amp? Looking for a Christmas gift idea.

I have two for bass, a Rushhead Max and a Vox Amplug2

The Vox is barebones, feels more cheaply made and doesn't have a rechargeable battery but it gets the most use purely because it has a drum machine.

Basic Poster
May 11, 2015

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

On Facebook
I read elsewhere on the internet or whats left of it anyway that “toan is stored in the balls”.

Thar after seeing that kurgestadt video that just came out saying in summary that the solution to our current meta predicament is to restore the 2000s era internet of small disconnected php bbs sites.

Just wanted to say big thanks to all the folks here that took time out of their lives to make my life and relationship with music so much better than I alone could have made it. And yospos jeffe for keeping it up.

After spending a few years in the fancy bass market, I picked up a squire 70s vibe J5. Plan on using it to get more hands on with mods. Its very loud in a good way. Feels like active loud but boy howdy is it jangley! Gonna try to lower to PUs but its a shockingly alright feeling bass for under a buck a string.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna

Basic Poster posted:



Thar after seeing that kurgestadt video that just came out saying in summary that the solution to our current meta predicament is to restore the 2000s era internet of small disconnected php bbs sites.


I spent my formative years in school posting on Talkbass and it had a huge impact on me. Then in college I found SA and it's all been downhill since.

NC Wyeth Death Cult
Dec 30, 2005

He lost his life in Chadds Ford, he was dancing with a train.
I want to thank the people who lead me to the Carol Kaye rantathon on Facebook. She's a great resources with terrific posts but sometimes they are in Boomer format. I got a feel from her hand position and finger usage post but are there any dos and don't videos about proper left-hand placement that are scientific?

Basic Poster
May 11, 2015

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

On Facebook

NC Wyeth Death Cult posted:

I want to thank the people who lead me to the Carol Kaye rantathon on Facebook. She's a great resources with terrific posts but sometimes they are in Boomer format. I got a feel from her hand position and finger usage post but are there any dos and don't videos about proper left-hand placement that are scientific?

Wouldn’t call it “scientific” even if there is any literature on the body mechanics and physiology from a medical science perspective. Medical science has a pretty wide range of scientific diligence.

But repetitive stress for any part of the body doesn’t end in desirable results generally when it comes to joints and tendons and ligaments and nerves. Muscles tend to do better.

The “consensus” is that either wrist should have as little bend as possible, don’t grab the back of the neck with your thumb, don’t contort your plucking hand in any weird way for the sake of speed or whatever. Keep your posture straight and be as relaxed as possible everywhere. Any tension can negatively impact your playing and increase the likelihood that in the future you can’t play without a bunch of pain.


E: this guy comes up. Haven’t watched everything but googling health and safety for bass players has a lot of info.

https://youtu.be/9KZm0JU-Prs?si=4dmlp4DuZ6SApod0

Basic Poster fucked around with this message at 18:17 on Dec 11, 2023

NC Wyeth Death Cult
Dec 30, 2005

He lost his life in Chadds Ford, he was dancing with a train.

Basic Poster posted:

Wouldn’t call it “scientific” even if there is any literature on the body mechanics and physiology from a medical science perspective. Medical science has a pretty wide range of scientific diligence.

But repetitive stress for any part of the body doesn’t end in desirable results generally when it comes to joints and tendons and ligaments and nerves. Muscles tend to do better.

The “consensus” is that either wrist should have as little bend as possible, don’t grab the back of the neck with your thumb, don’t contort your plucking hand in any weird way for the sake of speed or whatever. Keep your posture straight and be as relaxed as possible everywhere. Any tension can negatively impact your playing and increase the likelihood that in the future you can’t play without a bunch of pain.


E: this guy comes up. Haven’t watched everything but googling health and safety for bass players has a lot of info.
/
https://https:/youtu.be/9KZm0JU-Prs?si=4dmlp4DuZ6SApod0

Appreciate it, I've been working out of etude books to learn how to sight read and I've found that I need to stretch my hands afterwards and I was scared of doing permanent damage.

Seventh Arrow
Jan 26, 2005

Try to find a local teacher and take a few lessons. Assuming that they're actually good, nothing is better for your hand posture than having someone right there who can critique as you play.

The Science Goy
Mar 27, 2007

Where did you learn to drive?
^^^^^

A couple lessons can go a long way. If you're getting really good progress and want to continue those lessons, great! If you just need a couple sessions to set you straight for safe technique and such, then that'll do the job, and you can continue on the current path in a safe manner.

3 Action Economist
May 22, 2002

Educate. Agitate. Liberate.
I need to find a local teacher if for nothing else to show me in person how to slap properly. It's hard to tell on videos, and while I can kind of do it, I know I'm missing something.

Sockington
Jul 26, 2003
Does anyone else play a Jaguar up higher than their other basses in regards to strap height. It’s the only bass that feels better at that height and it feels kinda weird down where I hang my Precision and Jazz.

Anyways, here’s the old mix of parts.




I don’t know how many mic stands this neck has whacked before my ownership.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

3 Action Economist posted:

I need to find a local teacher if for nothing else to show me in person how to slap properly. It's hard to tell on videos, and while I can kind of do it, I know I'm missing something.

What I can tell you is that no matter how good you are your drummer is still gonna look disapprovingly at you as you do it.

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord
Oof that neck is is looking rough, free road worn look though

Captain Splendid
Jan 7, 2009

Qu'en pense Caffarelli?
I fear not the bass player who has whacked a thousand mic stands once...

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
Shout-out to the music go round near my place that sells single bass strings, the 115 on my stingray is just too floppy tuned to C and I thought I would need to buy a whole 5 string set to get one but they had a handful of 130s sitting in a bin under the counter.

Jestery
Aug 2, 2016


Not a Dickman, just a shape
Guess who got an old worn out double bass for free



It was being thrown out, just into a skip/dumpster and I rescued it

I studied jazz guitar for a year back a decade or so ago so im not lost on a fretboard and with sheet. I have just been having the greatest time walking by it and plucking away

Been doing my best to get a walking bass line down and have been having success,

I've become that guy in the neighbourhood with a loud instrument, and I'm determined to have it sound better than a handfull of riffs, so I'll probably need a bow at some point

Jestery fucked around with this message at 11:10 on Dec 19, 2023

Queen-Of-Hearts
Mar 17, 2009

"I want to break your heart💔 and give you mine🫀"




Dumpster diving an upright is living the low end dream, cheers to you friend!

tarlibone
Aug 1, 2014

Am I a... bad person?
Am I???
Fun Shoe
My wife has been asking me what I want for my birthday, and I thought, you know, as much as I like my Fenders, I wouldn't mind having a 5-string whose neck wasn't 42 mm thick. So, since we were driving through, we stopped at a Guitar Center on the way home from the Special Olympics event our son competed in.

They didn't have much at this place for bassists. This isn't "the good Guitar Center"; that one's across the river. But, they had one of those Sterling Music Man 5's, and I thought it looked cool. And, the price wasn't bad. So, I picked it up, tried to play it, and the notes were all choked out. "Just a little adjustment," I figured, then tried playing open strings. Still choked out. I made sure that the price tag string wasn't interfering, and it wasn't. Then I eyeballed the neck's relief.

It was so back-bowed that it couldn't be played. At all.

Back on the wall it went.

The Wiggly Wizard
Aug 21, 2008


Jestery posted:

Guess who got an old worn out double bass for free



It was being thrown out, just into a skip/dumpster and I rescued it

I studied jazz guitar for a year back a decade or so ago so im not lost on a fretboard and with sheet. I have just been having the greatest time walking by it and plucking away

Been doing my best to get a walking bass line down and have been having success,

I've become that guy in the neighbourhood with a loud instrument, and I'm determined to have it sound better than a handfull of riffs, so I'll probably need a bow at some point

Hell yeah. I can't really tell from the photo but it seems to be in decent shape, just a few dingers from beginner bow use. Is the sound post still in place?

Jestery
Aug 2, 2016


Not a Dickman, just a shape

The Wiggly Wizard posted:

Hell yeah. I can't really tell from the photo but it seems to be in decent shape, just a few dingers from beginner bow use. Is the sound post still in place?

Yep, I had a quick look and it's all playable, its clearly taken a couple bumps and knocks but everything is still there and playable

A tune up on the action might be needed but that's about it, otherwise it's pretty sick.

My goal is be able to decode and reproduce this sort of "walking+singing" thing as a genre rather than a performance
https://youtu.be/9nqC9rrS82A?si=r3q_GRcgkTRGH9FU

An it's taking me like a week or two and Im half way there for one song

I know it's treble, baby steps here, it's been a decade since I did anything like this

I'm wildly tempted to paint it tbh, but i know I would gently caress it up

Edit:
It's getting serious

Jestery fucked around with this message at 11:58 on Dec 20, 2023

Queen-Of-Hearts
Mar 17, 2009

"I want to break your heart💔 and give you mine🫀"




I vote green.


And then make a strap for it out of some chain.

widefault
Mar 16, 2009
So what would you call this layout?



Harmony H75/MR with a J body, P-bass pickup, and a humbucker under the cover.



Made by Samick in Korea, late 70s or early 80s based on the truss adjustment at the end of the neck. Still had the plastic on the pickguard, which peeled right off, and has the plastic in the HB ring. Control plate is cracked, a Jazz plate should fit, though. Thumb rest is also cracked, and right where my thumb rests! I'll just flip it the other way after filling the crack with superglue. Strings feel new, which is weird considering how dusty and dirty it was. Truss rod works, which is good because it definitely needs a turn or two. Action is kinda high, but playable and should come down when the neck is straightened. Also lots of room on the saddles to bring it down more.

creamcorn
Oct 26, 2007

automatic gun for fast, continuous firing
everyone's new basses look tight, the beater samick and beater upright are both very cool. don't paint the upright, it looks good as is. put some stickers on if you really want to decorate it imo, double bass body has enough real estate for like 8 punk bands' worth of them.

missing my school's upright while i'm on break rn, practicing bowing in the mirror with a big stick i found that's roughly german bow sized.

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

widefault posted:

So what would you call this layout?



Harmony H75/MR with a J body, P-bass pickup, and a humbucker under the cover.



Made by Samick in Korea, late 70s or early 80s based on the truss adjustment at the end of the neck. Still had the plastic on the pickguard, which peeled right off, and has the plastic in the HB ring. Control plate is cracked, a Jazz plate should fit, though. Thumb rest is also cracked, and right where my thumb rests! I'll just flip it the other way after filling the crack with superglue. Strings feel new, which is weird considering how dusty and dirty it was. Truss rod works, which is good because it definitely needs a turn or two. Action is kinda high, but playable and should come down when the neck is straightened. Also lots of room on the saddles to bring it down more.


I dont think ive seen a split and humbucker setup but a HB at the bridge isnt exactly uncommon.

Elissimpark
May 20, 2010

Bring me the head of Auguste Escoffier.
Anything Billy Sheehan is usually P and H but the other way round.

What scale is it?

widefault
Mar 16, 2009
34"

The pickups are the same as used on a buttload of Korean and Japanese P and J copies from the late 70s and early 80s. Funny thing, the Samick Harmony instruments were all copies of a Hondo model, but I can't find a Hondo model that matches up to this one. The early Hondo Js were two humbuckers, then switched to a standard Jazz setup by the late 70s with USA DiMarzios as an option.

Thumposaurus
Jul 24, 2007

For the double bass find someone who can do old school pinstriping on it with a brush and let them go hog wild on it.

Jestery
Aug 2, 2016


Not a Dickman, just a shape
Yeah, I agree with not touching it

However I hate pinstripes

I'm technically minded enough to build a 4 string washtub bass and I figure I'll just personalise that when I do

Sockington
Jul 26, 2003
Turns out my Greco belonged to the bassist from The Glorious Sons. Found this out after the fact when I messaged him and asked what recordings he used it on.

Anyways, I sold my Matt Freeman neck and my Mexican Precision body and put the other pieces together to get the neck I like and the colour I want. I know the Freeman neck is technically better, but it just wasn’t my jam without doing a ton of work to reshape and finish it and don’t need another project.

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

I got my first bass!



MIJ Fender Aerodyne P-Bass. Local store had it on a steep discount, $800. I guess they aren't selling? Anyway I took it for that price.

Very hard to rewire my brain to not think of the first string as E. My wife says it "feels" cool when I play it, hahah.

ColdPie fucked around with this message at 21:12 on Dec 24, 2023

tarlibone
Aug 1, 2014

Am I a... bad person?
Am I???
Fun Shoe

ColdPie posted:

I got my first bass!



MIJ Fender Aerodyne P-Bass. Local store had it on a steep discount, $800. I guess they aren't selling? Anyway I took it for that price.

Very hard to rewire my brain to not think of the first string as E. My wife says it "feels" cool when I play it, hahah.

Nice! I'm more of a regular Precision guy myself, but that is one nice-looking bass. While a P-bass may only have one tone that you can only change a little bit, the good news is that the one tone it's capable of works perfectly in literally every musical genre.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
P bass forces you to learn how much your right hand can affect and change tone as well.

Sweet rear end bass. Aerodyne’s rule.

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Jestery
Aug 2, 2016


Not a Dickman, just a shape
How exactly does a p bass differ from , say, the beginner bass I played decades ago?

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