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we need to entomb all poor people in towering wicker men and burn them alive to propitiate the wrath of the housing market
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Femtosecond posted:I'm hoping Vote Socialist manages to somehow take over COPE, kick all the old leftie boomers to the curb and create a relevant socialist left municipal party again but doesn't seem terribly likely. agreed, they should get rid of all the leftists if they're the wrong age
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Femtosecond posted:I hate to rile things up again, but the reckless fire danger ignoring madmen that want to take away our precious second stairways are also moving to massively increase the heights of flammable wood buildings. Are you loving kidding me?
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Eh, mass timber has pretty good structural fire performance. The floor limits used to line up pretty well with the limits of economic wood framing so everyone was happy but we've gotten way better at engineered lumber products and composite systems in the last fifteen years or so. The code committees were moving this way anyway. That being said, this likely is more a win for architects that pricing at this point. Note that mass timber construction is not light framed construction.
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this is a good overview of a wood building. https://youtu.be/2rN-HqSoVBY?si=YD6M3vRdzxHQ4dZT
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Escape Goat posted:descending was right there
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Precambrian Video Games posted:Relatedly, Canada’s migrant farm worker program was founded on ‘racist’ policies, new lawsuit alleges. And today’s workers are still paying the price I'm shocked
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Racism? In my Canadian policies? It's more likely than you think!
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back in the 90s the communist party got over 1000 votes here so the union bought them a keg of beer. The union no longer exists and the party disbanded. Now the horseshoe is filling with nazis : )
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Femtosecond posted:I hate to rile things up again, but the reckless fire danger ignoring madmen that want to take away our precious second stairways are also moving to massively increase the heights of flammable wood buildings.
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i lived in a wood framed four over one on the third floor for several years and whenever our upstairs neighbours walked around all of our light fixtures would shake. they were not heavy people; it was just that shoddy.
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Entorwellian posted:Are you loving kidding me? Mass timber is engineered lumber that has similar construction capabilities as steel and concrete while actually being quite fire resistant. The international model building code has allowed for 18-storey mass timber construction for a bit now. They're not building 18-storeys out of stick framing or something. This is not at all similar to even 3 or 4 floor standard wood framed buildings. For example, glulam mass timber supports the entire roof of the Olympic speed-skating oval (although I believe it has some bits of steel in it as well)
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Fidelitious posted:The international model building code has allowed for... Is Canada a country that sets its own standards or not?
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Frosted Flake posted:Is Canada a country that sets its own standards or not? That's the part that you choose to focus on? The story is literally about BC amending the building code, thus setting its own standards? Most jurisdictions at least partially base their code on international standards. The point was that it's not some crazy idea that BC came up with.
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it is very possible to make good tall buildings out of wood in Canada, however, my faith in our regulators not being captured by the development industry extends about as far as I could throw a condo tower, so I'm expecting them to maximize investment value by making tiny plywood boxes in the sky with gasoline for insulation
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The province with the leaky condo crisis choosing to allow plywood buildings with single stairwells doesn't inspire confidence, no matter how they do it in Austria or whatever.
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Frosted Flake posted:Is Canada a country no
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Frosted Flake posted:Is Canada a country that sets its own standards or not? We barely set our own foreign policy.
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Femtosecond posted:I hate to rile things up again, but the reckless fire danger ignoring madmen that want to take away our precious second stairways are also moving to massively increase the heights of flammable wood buildings. You can fit so many stairwells in here! *slaps side of building causing thunderous echoes and the structure to teeter back and forth for 5 minutes*
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CTV Ottawa put up an article about a new rental building on Chaudiere Island. Out of 140 units 19 of them are affordable starting at $1350. On an island with almost no nearby amenities. Can't wait for the lack of rent control to make those "affordable apartments" rocket up in price after the initial leases end.
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Lmao at affordable being 1350
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Depends how big they are, but probably bachelor's lol. Here "affordable" = 80 percent of market value, which is still about 100% more than rent prices 5 years ago. But the government gives the developer a shitload of money for them. Which is really important.
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Arc Hammer posted:CTV Ottawa put up an article about a new rental building on Chaudiere Island. Out of 140 units 19 of them are affordable starting at $1350. On an island with almost no nearby amenities. Can't wait for the lack of rent control to make those "affordable apartments" rocket up in price after the initial leases end. You're missing the part where those "affordable" units are actually just for a ROOM in a small apartment that you share bathrooms and such with... https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ottawa-dream-common-zibi-coliving-roommate-housing-1.7055844
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Lmao Jesus gently caress. Housing will never be solved in this shame of a country
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"affordable" being defined as a percentage of the already inflated market rate is sending me. dont look for me. i don't want to be found.
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Poverty must be punished, or people will just keep doing it
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Alizee posted:You're missing the part where those "affordable" units are actually just for a ROOM in a small apartment that you share bathrooms and such with... i guess no one living here will buy Jack Off Pants
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Frosted Flake posted:The province with the leaky condo crisis choosing to allow plywood buildings with single stairwells doesn't inspire confidence, no matter how they do it in Austria or whatever. hahaha Nova Scotia had problems with buildings experiencing total envelope failure which is exactly what you think it is.
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linoleum floors posted:Depends how big they are, but probably bachelor's lol. 80%?? what the gently caress??? any affordable housing regime that's not tied to a multiple of the minimum wage is piss garbage
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Alizee posted:You're missing the part where those "affordable" units are actually just for a ROOM in a small apartment that you share bathrooms and such with... There's something deeply dystopian about the company behind this being called Dream Unlimited Who's responsible for cleaning and maintaining all the common areas? How will disputes be resolved? Do the tenants get any kind of voice in governance?
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Affordable housing means dwelling units you can purchase or rent with money, thereby making it "affordable" in a literal sense.
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Hubbert posted:Affordable housing means dwelling units you can purchase or rent with money, thereby making it "affordable" in a literal sense.  as long as someone can afford it, it's technically affordable!
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Snowcrash is starting to look like documentary
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Finally, my doctorate in Sumerian archeology will pay for itself
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Rare Frosted Flake / federal housing policy crossover: quote:'We are living in a housing crisis': Canada consulting on reviving 'wartime housing' design catalogue
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We're at war with homeless
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after WW2 you could buy a house for $30K, about $150K in todays dollars, gotta be the house catalogue.
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And how many of these wartime housing projects will be strangled in the crib by zoning laws and provincial inertia.
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if we shorten the time to build a home and reduce the cost the developers have to pay up front that means more homes will be built and the savings will pass to the home buyers, right? its just logical
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