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Do you all ever just drive a certain newer car and think Absolutely Not! i got a Volvo S60 today for a rental, and I don't like it at all. The vertical infotainment pisses me off. It's also laggy as gently caress. The thing has Google OS and has a Play Store, but it won't let me install or use Android Auto. Twist a knob to start is dumb, a button is fine, this doesn't need to exist. The start/stop is super aggressive too. I also remember Volvos having comfortable seats, and these ain't it.
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Extremely tall second gear is not a track thing what? Track thing would be shorter gears all together as most tracks you arent ever going to get to 6th and just wait for the higher top speed of making tall rear end gears. You want gears set up to just keep you in the power band. Also manual isn’t for track anyway, that would be PDK gearing. None of that logic makes any sense. You are already slower on track in a manual, so why have a lovely manual experience to boot?
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Dec 12, 2023 03:02
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Dec 12, 2023 04:08
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TheBacon posted:Extremely tall second gear is not a track thing what? Track thing would be shorter gears all together as most tracks you arent ever going to get to 6th and just wait for the higher top speed of making tall rear end gears. You want gears set up to just keep you in the power band. Also manual isn’t for track anyway, that would be PDK gearing. None of that logic makes any sense. You are already slower on track in a manual, so why have a lovely manual experience to boot? The reason to have taller gearing for the early gears is to make them usable. At most tracks in any decent sports car you probably don’t even see speeds below 50mph on a normal lap so if second gear tops out at 55/60 then two of your gears are completely useless. There’s no powerband to use if you’re going faster than the gears redline.
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Dec 12, 2023 04:53
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crackhaed posted:Who do you think is the target market for manual transmissions in 2023 if not the track/enthusiast crowd? Commuters? Theyre for having fun and feeling more connected with the car, which is what track days are for and you see a ton of manuals at track days. Yeah, autos are faster nowadays but people like manuals because they are fun and feel extra connected. Most people doing track days in road cars aren’t doing any sort of competition. And if you have super tall gears then 5 and 6 are useless. In short, it’s a gearbox of contrasts
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Dec 12, 2023 05:19
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That’s exactly who they are for, but also the occasional track day for gt3 probably, but your 4cyl boxster is probably not seeing track days. All of them are going to see more spirited canyon miles and hours than track ones. So yeah “just a Porsche thing” to have super long tall gears on base model manuals is a dumb as hell reason. I’d also say there are quite a few closed course driving environments that are going to get you down into 50mph.
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Dec 12, 2023 05:28
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kill me now posted:And if you have super tall gears then 5 and 6 are useless. In short, it’s a gearbox of contrasts TheBacon posted:That’s exactly who they are for, but also the occasional track day for gt3 probably, but your 4cyl boxster is probably not seeing track days. All of them are going to see more spirited canyon miles and hours than track ones. So yeah “just a Porsche thing” to have super long tall gears on base model manuals is a dumb as hell reason. I’d also say there are quite a few closed course driving environments that are going to get you down into 50mph.
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Dec 12, 2023 07:13
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Mustache Ride posted:You say that but GAH! .. what's wrong with that? Looks fine. kill me now posted:Because to get comparable power you are paying about $100k for a GTS boxster. 100k used to be GT4 money 
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Dec 12, 2023 15:54
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KillHour posted:.. what's wrong with that? Looks fine. Agreed. I use the Z4 as a palate cleanser when I accidentally see and iX, xM, or photo of the Neue Klasse.
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Dec 12, 2023 15:58
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The Z4 looks much better in person IMO. I see one parked downtown occasionally and every time I go, "oh what's that" at first. It's as over-stylized as anything on the market, but I still think it looks pretty decent.
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Dec 12, 2023 16:02
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It looks like an M8 hosed a Miata. I like it.
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Dec 12, 2023 16:08
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It's okay but it's too big for a two seater convertible
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Dec 12, 2023 16:10
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I think they look nice. Still have the last gen iDrive too I think. I bought a Miata this year and really enjoy it but I had a b58 before and I do miss the sound it made.
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Dec 12, 2023 16:10
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Eyud posted:It's okay but it's too big for a two seater convertible Mazda will
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Dec 12, 2023 16:13
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Franco Caution posted:or photo of the Neue Klasse. Woah woah woah, the Neue Klasse is awesome and I can’t wait to see its design language in the next generation 3 series
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Dec 12, 2023 16:52
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If they manage to put the hosed up kidneys on the z4 I do not know what I’ll do…probably just deeply sigh and weep a little.
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Dec 12, 2023 17:19
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TheBacon posted:If they manage to put the hosed up kidneys on the z4 I do not know what I’ll do…probably just deeply sigh and weep a little.  But it's so happy
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Dec 12, 2023 17:42
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I saw a new colorado on the road and holy poo poo they are huge. i made this, size aligned to the 17" wheels. Wheelbase looks right 120" > 131.4" 
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Dec 12, 2023 17:44
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Its crazy watching that belt line and bed height shoot up.
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Dec 12, 2023 18:19
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I think Alfa has the best quirky brand defining grill. Jeep is up there too.
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Dec 12, 2023 18:28
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Franco Caution posted:Its crazy watching that belt line and bed height shoot up. Probably bloated up to late 90s 1500 size by now
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Dec 12, 2023 18:33
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Powershift posted:I saw a new colorado on the road and holy poo poo they are huge. Made for maximum pedestrian kill rate.
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Dec 12, 2023 18:49
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Franco Caution posted:Its crazy watching that belt line and bed height shoot up. To be fair that's comparing a Z71 and to a ZR2 which has a factory 3 inch lift that may not be including another half-inch from its larger tires.
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Dec 12, 2023 18:57
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KillHour posted:
 davecrazy posted:I think Alfa has the best quirky brand defining grill. Love me the lil moustache  I saw a render of a guilia wagon a while back and I have never wanted anything more in my life. And if you could get it QV AND a stick  there would be DOZENS of us that want it!!!
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Dec 12, 2023 18:59
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What's a car with a locking trunk that can't be bipped and that has fire road clearance? All I can think of are the Santa Cruz and Ridgeline, with trunks under the beds.
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Dec 12, 2023 19:15
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Franco Caution posted:
2019 and earlier new Volvos have the old Volvo infotainment software with Android Auto, but the hardware was too slow so it's laggy rear end 2020-2022 model years (depending on the specific model) have the old software on upgraded hardware and it's pretty good Now they replaced the old software with this Google OS bloatware and it sucks rear end again It's really loving stupid.
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Dec 12, 2023 19:53
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Russian Bear posted:Made for maximum pedestrian kill rate. and masculinity affirmation Unfortunately we also had to make the bed higher and less usable to do this and put a little steppy thing on there but whaddaya gonna do, not worry about if you're gay or whatever the gently caress? We simply could not not make the truck look huge sorry
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Dec 12, 2023 19:59
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Monkey Fracas posted:and masculinity affirmation the two are almost certainly related
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Monkey Fracas posted:and masculinity affirmation The hood had to rise about a foot to accommodate for the truck’s huge balls
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OBAMNA PHONE posted:Probably bloated up to late 90s 1500 size by now The only way my 2018 Canyon is smaller than a 1960-2000 half-ton truck is width. To be perfectly fair, the Canyon also has equal-or-better payload and towing capacity to a 1960-2000 half-ton truck.
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Dec 13, 2023 18:56
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The thing that really kills me about these trucks (aside from, you know, in a collision) is that they are longer than any parking space at any store. They literally do not fit. It makes parking lots a nightmare to navigate as 2 lanes quickly turns into 1.75 or 1.5 and also bottlenecks turns at the end of rows since you can't see and you have to swing way around the bed. Then there's the wonderful act of backing into a space and covering 2/3rds of a sidewalk with the bed overhang. I do not think it's cool to damage other people's property, but if someone handicapped had to contend with not being able to get by due to that I wouldn't take issue with them keying the gently caress out of the vehicle. Typical parking lot spots are anywhere from 16ft to 20ft with the later being considered an oversized or large spot. An F150 starts at 17.45 feet and goes to 20.2 feet. So, at best the shortest of F150s will only fit in half of the parking spot size range and at worst it will fit in no standard parking spot size. Even compared to cars that we think, historically, are huge land boats, these are big. A 1955 Chevy Bel Air is only 16.3 feet long. 1975 Olds Cutlass? 16.8 feet. How did we get to a point where car manufacturers were allowed to make vehicles for general sale that DO NOT FIT into standard infrastructure? bull3964 fucked around with this message at 20:03 on Dec 13, 2023 |
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Dec 13, 2023 20:00
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I also wonder how much traffic could be alleviated if cars in general were smaller. There are a lot of cars on the road, but if each one took up less space, maybe it would be better. Better visibility would make it easier to have smaller gaps between vehicles as well.
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Dec 13, 2023 20:22
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The amount of cars that are sat in traffic with a single person in them has to be well over 90%. And there was me sliding between them all right to the front of the lines on a motorbike. Cars are poo poo for commuting. Absolute garbage.
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Dec 13, 2023 20:27
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Commuting in a single occupancy vehicle, especially a big stupid truck or SUV, is like dragging a whole studio apartment around with you. It’s so unnecessary and inefficient and wasteful. Like yeah no poo poo traffic sucks when each vehicle is like 200 sqft, plus buffer space, and all of a sudden only a couple dozen people have jammed up the roadway with decidedly not-people.
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Dec 13, 2023 20:37
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i own every Bionicle posted:I also wonder how much traffic could be alleviated if cars in general were smaller. There are a lot of cars on the road, but if each one took up less space, maybe it would be better. Better visibility would make it easier to have smaller gaps between vehicles as well. Bigger, heavier cars are worse for traffic and roads in pretty much every way. e: Let's say you have bigger cars, which means that fewer cars can pass while the light is green, meaning you just have to wait longer to get through an intersection.
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Dec 13, 2023 21:48
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It's the nanny state's fault for insisting I have to drive my kid to pre-school in a "back seat" instead of whipping him around the back roads in the passenger seat of a Miata!
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Dec 13, 2023 22:11
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Olympic Mathlete posted:
Except for in winter, when its -30 out? Or summer when its + 30 celsius? Assuming the AC works I guess. Or raining really hard. Snowing. Dusty. Windy as gently caress. Hailing, well I guess if you got a helmet, it doesn't matter if your hands get hosed up. Freezing rain IIRC, you live on knife attack island where the climate is somewhat milder, but I'd have to guess that driving a motorcycle through heavy rain, snow, freezing rain etc. sucks, even if everyone else on the road is also on a motorcycle and is as cautious as you. But if someone has actual experience riding in such conditions and can tell me that its ok, I'll take their word for it.
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wesleywillis posted:Except for in winter, when its -30 out? I commute on bike in severe heat, howling winds and dust / smoke. No real issue. Maybe even 30mm/hr rain. I'm not even by any stretch the only one out on days like it's threatening today where it's already 30C at 10am and supposed to peak at 40C+ about 4pm or about an hour after I have started my commute home. Cars really suck when being stuck in crawling traffic. I'd love to spend more time going hell sideways on a track or rally stage cause thats where cars are fun but the money I'm saving not driving is getting demolished by inflation
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But do you actually like bicycling or do you just do it because it's less bad than driving? For my own experience I bicycled year around during high school. -20°C was pretty much a non issue in the dry arctic cold, except for the brakes not working. In fact I hit one car simply because I was unable to slow down. Then in '98 I moved to the south coast for university. The first day of bicycling in slush around freezing temperature is when I abandoned my bicycle on the nearest tram stop and headed downtown to buy a bus pass. I think that is the last time I have bicycled in the cold. Pre-corona I biked to work occasionally, but that was when we went to office every day and had desktops. Afterwards I mostly work remotely and we have hot desks, so I would have to bring my laptop and change of clothes. That is more cargo than I am willing to deal with on a bicycle.
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wesleywillis posted:Except for in winter, when its -30 out? Lol typical cager brain.
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