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sasha_d3ath posted:First things first, this whole thing came up in the Industry thread last week and immediately fizzled into nothing, so imo not really worth rehashing. Jeez, even as a leftist, that stuff is very cringe. It's like they picked the most low stakes arena possible in which to make sweeping ideological statements.
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taichara posted:Ditto. I'd add another name or two to the list, but ditto. I still really want to run a Wodehousian planar farce game, but god the vibes in the Melsonian Arts Council discord were so rancid that it turned me off the game completely.
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Dark Sun update: we delivered the letter we were tasked with delivering to nobles in another city state. Our contact was very pleased and we even managed to persuade him to let our three illiterate characters stick around while he read it, instead of taking it back to his boss to deliver it first. Explosive runes. I never thought explosive runes would actually catch me by surprise. The dude did not survive. His aide did not survive. We took a hell of a lot of damage and barely survived. I have no idea where this is going now but I'm having a good time.
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Their idea of leftism is what I thought leftism was when I was in high school, in the 90s. How old are these people? It strikes me as extremely low-stakes indie music scene bullshit, but by people who (I assume) mostly don't even interact in person. I totally missed that Unconquered had already come up in the Industry thread because it came immediately after the kerfluffle over the Goodman Games announcement and was immediately overshadowed by discussion of hbomberguy's plagiarism video.
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Lumbermouth posted:Oh hey the people that made sure I didn't make anything more for Troika. I know we're drifting off topic, but were Troika folks involved or what's up?
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sasha_d3ath posted:First things first, this whole thing came up in the Industry thread last week and immediately fizzled into nothing, so imo not really worth rehashing. I didn't realize Huntsman was part of that group, which is a bummer because I remember liking a lot of their videos back in the day, but yeah the others named are some of the most crab bucket rear end people I've ever come across in any scene. I remember them talking about the Mork Borg guys like they were basically Hasbro for having the audacity to make a fun game people actually like for more than two sessions tops Empty Sandwich posted:I know we're drifting off topic, but were Troika folks involved or what's up? Sinclair and Anderson are/were vocal members of the Troika scene and Sinclair at least worked/works for Melsonian Arts Council Johnny Landmine fucked around with this message at 16:40 on Dec 13, 2023 |
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Yeah, I was thinking about PMing Lumbermouth and Sasha, but if youse guys feel like talking about it ITT, go ahead. I'm curious. Like most people, I'd like to avoid dealing with bad actors, but platforms like Twitter, Tumblr, and Discord are terrible for tracking down information after the fact. (I'm a little confused about Vi Huntsman. Doesn't she edit CY_BORG and other stuff for Mork Borg?)
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Oh I have no receipts or anything, just that the whole community (specifically Jared and Micah) seemed so profoundly miserable about elfgames.
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sasha_d3ath posted:First things first, this whole thing came up in the Industry thread last week and immediately fizzled into nothing, so imo not really worth rehashing. Nothing will really beat the cartoon sideshow that is the McDowall discord server: The OSR discord used to be run by a deeply mentally ill man(his characterization) who pretended he was a hit erotic furry porn writer(but only in Japan and no he would not name the publication) that was kidnapped by a cult who thought he was a deer god (also he could control deers) and he also did the whole 1950's greaser thing for whatever reason. Anyway it turned out he liked having erotic hypnosis sessions with teenage boys and just sort of said he was an obvious liar about everything after years of having massive, performative childish meltdowns whenever people asked him any sort of followup questions about his life to get away from the very bad allegations. No idea what he's doing now, but there's been a pain-train of mods that get accused of one terrible thing after the other from that discord server-shaped toilet.
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They should invent a kind of person for our hobby who isn't insane
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Is there an a game system out there that I can use to quickly make characters for and play out a short D&D based adventure, like something out of one page dungeons to original D&D modules, that does anything to make non-magic users as interesting to play as magic users? So far the only answer I've been able to find to that question is to either just eliminate magic entirely or convert it all to item effects (like scrolls) as loot for anyone to use.
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nessin posted:Is there an a game system out there that I can use to quickly make characters for and play out a short D&D based adventure, like something out of one page dungeons to original D&D modules, that does anything to make non-magic users as interesting to play as magic users? So far the only answer I've been able to find to that question is to either just eliminate magic entirely or convert it all to item effects (like scrolls) as loot for anyone to use. Mighty Deeds for martial classes from DCC seems to be a popular idea that’s easily ported to other systems.
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Ledhed posted:Mighty Deeds for martial classes from DCC seems to be a popular idea that’s easily ported to other systems. As far as I understood Mighty Deeds it's basically "if you actually roleplay in a roleplaying game, you can roll to get bonus damage or the effect of what you've played out". I thought it basically was a means of mechanizing something GMs should already do, not really creating new options for fighters.
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It provides some useful guidelines and specifically sets the tone. Just like how more spells give more options to casters even though every edition of D&D says something to the effect of "you can also make up your own spells".
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The idea of mighty deeds is that you get to do the cool thing alongside your attack, rather than either replacing your attack or assigning it a penalty. Think of it as a second critical hit mechanic, just one that doesn’t necessarily increase damage and has a much higher chance of happening.
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Terrible Opinions posted:It provides some useful guidelines and specifically sets the tone. Just like how more spells give more options to casters even though every edition of D&D says something to the effect of "you can also make up your own spells". Sure, but correct if I'm wrong that a Mighty Deed is kicking sand in someone's eye so they're blinded, thus getting a -x to future attack rolls. I leave my sword in their body so they're encumbered and have a long metal stick sticking out of them, so -x movement. I deeply cut/cut off a hand so no two handed bonus. All that should apply to spells as well. Fireball actually lights you on fire, have to spend an action putting yourself out. Magic missile destroys an arm just as effectively as slicing it off with a sword. Choking in a poison cloud doubles as blindness and suffocation. The whole concept of Mighty Deeds, again unless I'm misunderstanding something, was more like intentionally ignore the implications of this system everywhere else so fighters can feel special. Which I suppose is technically what I was asking for but not really the spirit. Especially since isn't Mighty Deeds just a system for the two fighter type classes and not the others?
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nessin posted:Is there an a game system out there that I can use to quickly make characters for and play out a short D&D based adventure, like something out of one page dungeons to original D&D modules, that does anything to make non-magic users as interesting to play as magic users? So far the only answer I've been able to find to that question is to either just eliminate magic entirely or convert it all to item effects (like scrolls) as loot for anyone to use. Have your players complained in the past about not feeling special and having class envy? I'm not trying to be snotty, just legitimately curious because I've not really seen that attitude in the wild.
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TheDiceMustRoll posted:Nothing will really beat the cartoon sideshow that is the McDowall discord server: The OSR discord used to be run by a deeply mentally ill man(his characterization) who pretended he was a hit erotic furry porn writer(but only in Japan and no he would not name the publication) that was kidnapped by a cult who thought he was a deer god (also he could control deers) and he also did the whole 1950's greaser thing for whatever reason. Anyway it turned out he liked having erotic hypnosis sessions with teenage boys and just sort of said he was an obvious liar about everything after years of having massive, performative childish meltdowns whenever people asked him any sort of followup questions about his life to get away from the very bad allegations. No idea what he's doing now, but there's been a pain-train of mods that get accused of one terrible thing after the other from that discord server-shaped toilet. Do you mean the Bastionland server? What's wrong with it/him? I thought he and his systems were very well loved and praised.
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Aiming for the eyes or rallying your hirelings with an inspiring speech does not immediately and intuitively tell the GM what effect that should have mechanically, nor does it format the system in DCC's degrees of success format. Aiming for the eyes for instance goes from just irritating them with a near miss to fully blinding them. Spells in DCC have the same sort of format where casting a spell well is very different from casting it poorly. The only class kinda left out in this mix are thieves.
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The quick and dirty Mighty Deeds explanation I like to give new players is to imagine you start with every Fighter Feat and they all have the same trigger. Obviously it's not a perfect explanation but it gets the idea across.
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nessin posted:Is there an a game system out there that I can use to quickly make characters for and play out a short D&D based adventure, like something out of one page dungeons to original D&D modules, that does anything to make non-magic users as interesting to play as magic users? So far the only answer I've been able to find to that question is to either just eliminate magic entirely or convert it all to item effects (like scrolls) as loot for anyone to use. I just read a blog that suggested the following: on a hit, a melee attack can have a specified effect instead of damage, if the victim allows it. the examples were vaguely like the following: the PC rolls to hit and says he's going to grab and restrain the NPC instead of damaging him. the NPC has plenty of hit points, so he refuses (and so takes the damage instead). after a couple rounds, he's in danger of getting killed, so he accepts being taken prisoner on the next hit (and so does not take damage, but is restrained). I'll see if I can find the post. it struck me as really smart, but I haven't tried it out. e: https://oddskullblog.wordpress.com/2021/11/15/combat-maneuvers-the-easy-way/ Empty Sandwich fucked around with this message at 22:38 on Dec 13, 2023 |
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goodness posted:Do you mean the Bastionland server? What's wrong with it/him? I thought he and his systems were very well loved and praised. There was at one point, and this ended after the Zaklash or whatever, a McDowall-owned server where he ran the show called the OSR discord
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goodness posted:Do you mean the Bastionland server? What's wrong with it/him? I thought he and his systems were very well loved and praised. They're talking about the server "OSR" that McDowall started and eventually handed over to someone else. The behavior described is about that someone else, who was removed from the server 4 months later.
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TheDiceMustRoll posted:There was at one point, and this ended after the Zaklash or whatever, a McDowall-owned server where he ran the show called the OSR discord JMBosch posted:They're talking about the server "OSR" that McDowall started and eventually handed over to someone else. The behavior described is about that someone else, who was removed from the server 4 months later. Ok that makes more sense, I think I'm in that discord as well but rarely go there, usually for Monolith stuff, when I have the Cairn and Bastionland one.
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Lumbermouth posted:Oh hey the people that made sure I didn't make anything more for Troika. Oh yeah same! I made one really good thing for it and then decided its most prominent voices were sadistic assholes. taichara posted:Ditto. I'd add another name or two to the list, but ditto. I would too if I could remember them, but the list I provided are the ones who have either done something recently or haunted the dark places of my mind the whole time.
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sasha_d3ath posted:I would too if I could remember them, but the list I provided are the ones who have either done something recently or haunted the dark places of my mind the whole time. Two others that stuck with me are AxesNOrcs, who got truly weird and vicious, and Michael Lombardi -- who often skates by uncommented-on when this all comes up, but stands out for me with shite like the attempt to start a smear campaign against Skerples (implying that Skerples using an alias was ~a red flag and how could anyone trust a Kickstarter run by someone using an alias or do work for someone using an alias) that oh so coincidentally coincided with Lombardi's buddy Jared going on the attack because Skerples committed the Dastardly Crime of ... reviewing Acid Death Fantasy and Troika in general with some mild criticism.
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Any good tips for Yule-tidey oneshots for something like into the odd?
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Demon Driven to the Maw for Cairn (which is precisely "something like Into the Odd") made for the best one-shot I've ever run, and while it's not exactly Yuletide-y as written, it is set in a bustling manor during what could very easily be tweaked into a hell of a Christmas party.
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taichara posted:Two others that stuck with me are AxesNOrcs, who got truly weird and vicious, and Michael Lombardi -- who often skates by uncommented-on when this all comes up, but stands out for me with shite like the attempt to start a smear campaign against Skerples (implying that Skerples using an alias was ~a red flag and how could anyone trust a Kickstarter run by someone using an alias or do work for someone using an alias) that oh so coincidentally coincided with Lombardi's buddy Jared going on the attack because Skerples committed the Dastardly Crime of ... reviewing Acid Death Fantasy and Troika in general with some mild criticism. Im surprised you remember that Skerples because immediately a handful of his collab partners spoke up to say "Oh, I know his name.  " and then it died after like, a day. I don't really like Skerp personally but the tantrum thrown that day was something else. Really the Troika trolls are/were something else. Thankfully Troika is uninteresting garbage so no amazing loss there.
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Axes split from my sight quick and early but yes, they're a particularly vicious little prick. I had totally forgotten Lombardi and his whole schtick but I imagine if he's still around he's banging the "you bullies harassed a queer POC out of the community, who's the REAL abusive plagiarizer" drum pretty hard
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LOL, that's on the level of Zak trying to pull the "Believe Women" schtick. I didn't know who most of these people were before yesterday, and drat, they can dish it out but they sure can't take it.
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TheDiceMustRoll posted:Nothing will really beat the cartoon sideshow that is the McDowall discord server: The OSR discord used to be run by a deeply mentally ill man(his characterization) who pretended he was a hit erotic furry porn writer(but only in Japan and no he would not name the publication) that was kidnapped by a cult who thought he was a deer god (also he could control deers) and he also did the whole 1950's greaser thing for whatever reason. Anyway it turned out he liked having erotic hypnosis sessions with teenage boys and just sort of said he was an obvious liar about everything after years of having massive, performative childish meltdowns whenever people asked him any sort of followup questions about his life to get away from the very bad allegations. No idea what he's doing now, but there's been a pain-train of mods that get accused of one terrible thing after the other from that discord server-shaped toilet. Wow, that sounds like one hell of an Unknown Armies character to play! In more thread-related news: I started running the Taliswilderlands WWN game I was talking about in the thread a while ago! The players ended up being in the mood for a desert campaign and so started off on the map corresponding to northern Carantheum from Talislanta, whcih was of course one of the maps that wasn't pre-keyed with towns, lairs and ruins. So I ended up using the random roll tables in WWN and Vaults of Vaarn with a small sprinkling of 2e Dark Sun material to fill things out, which has worked pretty well so far! The party has started off in possession of a sand ship, which has made getting around a little easier, has raided one vault so far and is on their way to a settlement that's been dealing with monster problems. I know it's a bit outside of the scope of this thread, but I don't suppose anyone happens to know of any conversion guide to port material from Talislanta into earlier editions of D&D? I know conversion guides tended to be more of a thing back when the two systems were both being produced and it would help me a lot with my efforts...
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The overall culture of RPG Discords has just turned into hot garbage now. You want to express actual opinions? Get ready to be banned from channels on a whim, because lazy moderators won’t do the work needed to suss out mild disagreements from actual infractions. If I wanted to deal with this much egregious tone-policing, I’ll post on rpg.net. At least they actually have the courtesy to provide their reasons for banning you.
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Gatto Grigio posted:The overall culture of RPG Discords has just turned into hot garbage now. Not to mention under normal circumstances you have to be a real awful jackass to actually get permanently banned from there, though I do agree they are sometimes a bit too quick to throw around thread bans and temporary bans
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Johnny Landmine posted:Demon Driven to the Maw for Cairn (which is precisely "something like Into the Odd") made for the best one-shot I've ever run, and while it's not exactly Yuletide-y as written, it is set in a bustling manor during what could very easily be tweaked into a hell of a Christmas party. Thanks much, seems cool!!
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ovenboy posted:Thanks much, seems cool!! The guest of honour is "literally satan", but you could easily swap two of those letters to make it more seasonal.
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Are any of the optional DnD 2nd edition. Classes outside of the Players handbook worth it.
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sebmojo posted:Cavalier from unearthed arcana is absurdly broken Didn't they have to charge the most dangerous enemy without regard to life
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