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pumpinglemma posted:A lot of these are great games in general but bad family games unless your family are all board gamers. Thinking at the level of Drunk Uncle Ted, Azul is too abstract and Wingspan, Pandemic and Root are all much too hard. Pandemic also has a backseating problem, which is fine with friends working together to solve stuff but awful when playing with Drunk Uncle Ted. This is why best family game is Telestrations. Rules that can be explained in under a minute, game is fun even if you take out the competitive element, and if you really want to you can play it without anything other than pen/paper.
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Party games are going to be the safest bet for a family setting where some of the folks are not otherwise into board games. If you want something more like a regular, strategic, non-realtime board game, but have concerns about boredom, then you want something with stuff happening to every player on every turn. This takes a lot of the "multiplayer solitaire" that happens and causes people to bury themselves in their phones. Somebody can split hairs over "turned-based" and "simultaneous turns," but from an engagement perspective, what matters is that continued engagement. Co-op games generally work, but I would always recommend the ones with limited communication so nobody gets quarterbacked. We've found even with regular turns that there are some that keep people engaged in a "don't you loving dare" way: Stone Age Lords of Waterdeep (always surprised how many grandmas are fine with this, but not really for non-gaming eight-year-olds. We don't try to do this, the poo poo just happens. Stop glaring at me.) There are a lot of Euro games like this but there is only so much clay you can harvest and trade before it gets old. Labyrinth All varieties of trick-taking, ladder climbing, and shedding card games Space Base (though IMO it is broken) Machi Koro (though IMO it is also broken but I forget why) Most roll-and-writes Auction games like For Sale Co-op: Mysterium Kuzooka A lot of racing games have you invested in what other people are doing and have shorter turns: Camel Up Formula D Down Force Finally, all of these can be ruined by an analysis paralyzer who brute computes every possible outcome twice before muttering out loud what they might want to try to do. That is never getting designed out and requires you to actually confront them. This can go on and on but that's enough of the firehose of board games from me for now.
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Dec 13, 2023 23:54
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I still can't believe nobody has suggested the best card game Apples to Apples. But yeah, with the advent of Kickstarter there is now a veritable glut of board games on the market, just pick three that sound interesting and unless you're really unlucky you're bound to have a good time.
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Dec 14, 2023 00:16
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For co-op games, my family has been loving The Crew: Mission Deep Sea, which is a surprisingly deep cooperative trick-taking card game. It's pretty easy to explain, but is challenging enough to be interesting. Also, Space Alert is hella fun with the right crowd
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Jose Valasquez posted:You scrolled past all the DDG pictures of random red dogs that take up a 3rd of the screen and the link to "16 red dog breeds that turn heads" in the top 3 results mllaneza posted:I'll say it again, you can turn Google's infoboxes off. I second the rec for Apples to Apples. Arsenic Lupin fucked around with this message at 00:33 on Dec 14, 2023 |
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Sagacity posted:What's the story here? I dunno; I just know I had to set up my handyman's new car for him, and about half of what I would describe as "standard car functions" required me to go into the Toyota app, which also had its own maps and music stuff entirely separate from the built-in Android Auto apps.
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Dec 14, 2023 01:25
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cat botherer posted:turns out the peak of infotainment systems was having an MP3 player plugged into a cassette deck with an adapter. I'm old enough to not mind my 6 disc CD carousel.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:If you're looking for the movie (or anything else) how are the dog salon and saloon relevant? They aren't, but there are irrelevant results on DDG too, and ranked higher. The top results on Google are better than the top results on DDG for that specific search. I'm not even saying Google is better than DDG, but your examples aren't convincing
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Dec 14, 2023 01:30
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It's very weird and inconsistent, in my experience. For a week or two a while back, Google was having trouble giving a good search result for a very specific thing I search regularly (yeah, yeah, I should bookmark it). Results persisted across my computers, my phone, the computers at work, incognito mode, etc. I just checked it and it's returning the expected result again. No idea what happened. It's such a black box at this point that I doubt anyone could figure out what happened, too.
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Dec 14, 2023 01:35
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My go-to party game is Wheel of Fortune on PS3. It has Pat Sajack and Vana White in it, everyone knows how to play already, and no one ever gets mad. Everyone has to applaud whenever the wheel is spun or someone guesses a correct letter or solves the puzzle. If you play in a room of ten people, it's the greatest. Jeopardy! works just as well, and the PS3 game has Alex Trebek in it.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Please tell me how! Settings -> Labs For a boardgame recommendation, I'll put out Sunset Over Water. The board is a 5x5 grid of landscape paintings. You move around to collect paintings, which you use to complete contract cards based on the symbols on each painting. Four players can get through a game in 45 minutes. It's a great gateway game because it's pretty, interesting, requires strategic thought, and plays fast. It's also $25 and comes in a fairly small box, so it's easy to pick up as a gateway to games that aren't monopoly.
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pumpinglemma posted:A lot of these are great games in general but bad family games unless your family are all board gamers. Thinking at the level of Drunk Uncle Ted, Azul is too abstract and Wingspan, Pandemic and Root are all much too hard. Pandemic also has a backseating problem, which is fine with friends working together to solve stuff but awful when playing with Drunk Uncle Ted. The problem with backseating in Pandemic isn't just Drunk Uncle Ted, it's also the person who is most invested in the game telling everyone else what to do because it's optimal, and no one else having a reason to disagree so it becomes a single-player game.
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Staluigi posted:So what is best game i can play with family the doesn't actually inspire murder (monopoly) or backbiting and resentment (Catan) or mass murder (diplomacy) Rhino Hero. I'm serious. The rules are relatively straightforward, there're a few different card types to mix it up, all of which can be looked up quickly, it involves card mutilation which kids will enjoy, and there's a cute but ruinous Rhino figure that has to be moved on your increasingly unstable tower of cards. My kids like it at least. There's also Cheating Moth, which my kids also like, where a valid (and in fact, for some players, the only) strategy is to cheat by making the cards in your hand "disappear" by dropping them on the floor. As long as you aren't caught, at least. Kwyndig posted:I still can't believe nobody has suggested the best card game Apples to Apples. Apples to Apples is Cards Against Humanity but with reasonably family friendly cards. It's a very good suggestion for family games. Bear in mind that, as with all things, appearances are deceiving for board game cover art as well.
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Dec 14, 2023 04:45
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The official Alien board game and Mysterium are both good coop games in very different ways and imo pretty easy to get into. They also sell a lot of basically like escape rooms but in a more board game esque form so you can have all the puzzles/etc. stuff set up at the table you're playing at/around the immediate room, and they're played on a timer so you don't have to worry about it going on too long.
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In my family we play Axis and Allies after Christmas dinner.
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One good Catan accessory is the deck of cards that replaces the dice rolling with numbered cards that follow the expected distribution. That makes it so that the 'rolls' aren't independent any more and there aren't any strings of lucky/unlucky rolls. e.g. if you draw the 2, there aren't any more until the deck is shuffled. You spike an early shuffle card into the bottom few cards so it isn't 100% predictable and exactly the same as the expected distribution for 2d6, but it's much less luck based than rolling dice.
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withak posted:In my family we play Axis and Allies after Christmas dinner. Still better than my family, where grandma likes Ticket To Ride and has played nothing but that + expansions/spinoffs since like 2012.
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Dec 14, 2023 05:57
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Foxfire_ posted:One good Catan accessory is the deck of cards that replaces the dice rolling with numbered cards that follow the expected distribution. That makes it so that the 'rolls' aren't independent any more and there aren't any strings of lucky/unlucky rolls. e.g. if you draw the 2, there aren't any more until the deck is shuffled. O.K. but the robber is still permanently sitting on the only decent ore source.
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Clarste posted:The problem with backseating in Pandemic isn't just Drunk Uncle Ted, it's also the person who is most invested in the game telling everyone else what to do because it's optimal, and no one else having a reason to disagree so it becomes a single-player game.
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Dec 14, 2023 10:27
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Theres a version of Monopoly that is 'Cheaters Edition' Played it today with a client and in no time I had managed to steal every property on the board.
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withak posted:In my family we play Axis and Allies after Christmas dinner. So you have like an 8 hour dinner on xmas?
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As a board game nerd I’ve hosted a thousand game nights with non-nerds and I’m here to say Junk Art is by some distance the best board game you can play with your family. You get a bunch of odd shapes and your goal is to build the tallest tower without toppling it. Unlike nerd games it doesn’t rely on batshit stupid things like victory points and you’re building actual things that have a real sense of risk, dexterity and individuality. I don’t think it’s enough to hold an entire night of attention but as an appetizer it’ll sure as poo poo get everyone in the mood. It has had a 100% hit rate for me.
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We have an entire subforum for board games and such that doesn't get much traffic and would welcome all of you. I'm not bringing down the mod  on more board game discussion and recommendations yet, but let's try to wrap it up in the next few hours and get back on topic.
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these answers are ...a bountiful harvest and actually a big help guess im calling a family game night in
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Vegetable posted:As a board game nerd I’ve hosted a thousand game nights with non-nerds and I’m here to say Junk Art is by some distance the best board game you can play with your family. You get a bunch of odd shapes and your goal is to build the tallest tower without toppling it. If you like this idea, AND making others suffer, check out Meeple Circus.
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A really good board game to play with others is Omega Virus: https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/3086/omega-virus
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There are also board games that integrate apps with the board game now, usually as a way to track hidden information. Some examples are Search for Planet X: a deduction board game https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/279537/search-planet-x Alchemists: Fantasy academia where you publish or perish https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/161970/alchemists XCOM: the board game https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/163602/xcom-board-game Werewords: basically another mafia/werewolf/amongus variant https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/219215/werewords
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What's funny about the chess derail is that chess has actually become insanely popular over the past few years thanks to YouTube and Twitch. It's way more of a normie thing than it's ever been, and it's more a sign of goons being out of touch not knowing about it, rather than openai techbros being out of touch for playing it
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tractor fanatic posted:What's funny about the chess derail is that chess has actually become insanely popular over the past few years thanks to YouTube and Twitch. It's way more of a normie thing than it's ever been, and it's more a sign of goons being out of touch not knowing about it, rather than openai techbros being out of touch for playing it Lots of pro-athletes have been talking about playing chess too in recent years too, and talking about it in the media. I'd suspect thats a big driver of young males in particular to it. ie in just this one tournament: quote:Reigning BlitzChamps king, Chidobe Awuzie, the Cincinnati Bengals cornerback, returns to defend his title of NFL's best chess player. Larry Fitzgerald Jr., one of the greatest wide receivers of all time and a longtime chess aficionado, also makes a return in the knockout along with Arik Armstead of the San Francisco 49ers. https://www.chess.com/news/view/announcing-blitzchamps-ii
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess_boxing
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A huge draw of universal or at least extremely internationally widely known games like chess, poker and backgammon, is that you don't need to have these discussions. You can go to somewhere completely foreign to you, and find someone who knows how to play these games, and you can play with them without having even a language in common. They aren't necessarily the best possible games to play, but they're so universal that they fill a role that no perfectly-designed niche game ever can. And they are, nonetheless, extremely well-designed games. Ultimately, this applies to Tech Nightmares because it explains why market share is more important than quality 99% of the time. It explains why Twitter is still huge despite being a dumpster fire, and why it's never been the year of Linux on the desktop and it never will be.
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Vegetable posted:As a board game nerd I’ve hosted a thousand game nights with non-nerds and I’m here to say Junk Art is by some distance the best board game you can play with your family. You get a bunch of odd shapes and your goal is to build the tallest tower without toppling it. You should try MegaCitiea: Oceania! You gotta build the tower on a little hexagon, and then push your tower to the middle without it toppling over
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PT6A posted:A huge draw of universal or at least extremely internationally widely known games like chess, poker and backgammon, is that you don't need to have these discussions. You can go to somewhere completely foreign to you, and find someone who knows how to play these games, and you can play with them without having even a language in common. It's because of their age and no one owns them. You can do the same with games like soccer, volleyball, or basketball--no one owns them and all you need is the knowledge of how to play. Something I read once about what separates e-sports from sports is the corporate ownership of competitive video games. StarCraft, Counter-Strike, League of Legends, etc. are all products by a company and they hold the rights to present these games and the rules. You have to go to them for the equipment to play. Meanwhile, any organization can be built around sports without needing to go to a single entity to play it. No one can sue you for holding an indoor soccer tournament over the rights to the game or charging for tickets to watch it be played locally.
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Star Man posted:It's because of their age and no one owns them. You can do the same with games like soccer, volleyball, or basketball--no one owns them and all you need is the knowledge of how to play. Well, for Starcraft in particular, they don't really hold any rights because they can't control LAN play, and the CDs are explicitly allowed to install more than one copy for LAN play so people can share it with their friends. This is one of the things that pissed Blizzard off very much (that they weren't getting a cut of the check from a thriving esports scene in Korea), which is why they tried to change that for Starcraft 2. Which was ultimately far less popular.
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I just named three games with a competitive scene to try to make a point about games like chess being so universal because they're not products controlled by a single entity.
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and StarCraft still supports your argument as it's more universal than most because the single entity failed to assume control 
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Blut posted:Lots of pro-athletes have been talking about playing chess too in recent years too, and talking about it in the media. I'd suspect thats a big driver of young males in particular to it. ie in just this one tournament: Fitzgerald being big on Chess isn't too surprising when thinking back to some brief interactions with him and how he always was around mutual friends at Pitt.
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Revive Kung Fu Chess, where there are no turns, only per-piece cooldowns and captures can be dodged in real time. Got so much mileage out of that in the computer labs.
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There’s been a large bored apes hack. Apparently these things are still trading for real money? Also the British library has been hacked and it’s become basically impossible to request thousands of items.
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Yeah bored apes are the only nfts worth any appreciable amount of money, but it's still post bubble so they're paying hundreds of dollars for lovely jpeg ownership certificates instead of hundreds of thousands.
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