skooma512 posted:

App stuff has proven to be pretty ephemeral as it is too. I had a Fitbit in 2015 because work was just giving them out, and by 2021 the hardware was all poo poo and Google bought them and they are being imploded. Less than 7 years and all that poo poo is e-waste now, and usually within 3 years of purchase anyway. There will be weeks when an app just doesn't work. The Taco Bell app was that way for me, just immediate crash, and they didn't fix it for a week. I tried to get my mom a fitness band that was comparable to fitbit, and the biggest brand is Huawei, which is lol is now under embargo in the west and you can't get their app for a product from a year or two ago.

Like nothing about the app store ecosystem is about longevity. Products go in and out all the time, updates just break poo poo, they abandon apps. At least something hardcoded can't have all functionality shaved away when they feel like revenue is lagging.

duncandisorderly posted:

I queued to use a manned checkout yesterday & remembered why I'd stopped. lady in front of me, with small daughter
("this is a shop, not loving disneyland!")
is paying in cash. this always makes me suspicious- people who do such a big shop but pay cash are trying to evade/avoid something. usually it's tax. a lot of them are shopping to stock a small shop of their own, & use the supermarket as a sort of cash-&-carry, without the same major discount, but maybe it was an emergency.
nothing against this, as a rule- it is supported by the local circumstances, but when she started counting the pennies out & arguing with the checkout bloke about what she'd already handed over, which was still right there in his hand, I started grumbling.
("I did not come here for a loving day out!")

teen witch posted:

I’m hoping the argument about e-waste does turn the tide towards companies pulling this hyper obsolescence via app bullshit. It’s easier to buy less poo poo when the current poo poo isn’t outdated or rendered to barely useable due to apps. Also who needs a loving app for everything, outside of genuine accessibility needs (which is ANOTHER reason why instant obsolescence is hosed).

Like I totally do not expect my current phone to work when iOS 69 or whatever but I would like it to work as long as physically possible, not as long as Apple shitcans basic functionality.

His Divine Shadow posted:

This reminds of that guy who had neural implants in his brain, iirc he was blind and they gave him a kind of vision. But the company went bust and he was left without support or maintenance.

duncandisorderly posted:

His Divine Shadow posted:

This reminds of that guy who had neural implants in his brain, iirc he was blind and they gave him a kind of vision. But the company went bust and he was left without support or maintenance.

anonumos posted:

This is happening to a lot of medical implants, from fake knees to insulin pumps. People have things implanted in them that become paperweights due to capital movements.

teen witch posted:

Thank you for the new realistic fear

duncandisorderly posted:

I recognise mrs bucket, of course, but I don't know what 'three olives' means in this context

Outrail posted:

How about disfunctionalization

anonumos posted:

This is happening to a lot of medical implants, from fake knees to insulin pumps. People have things implanted in them that become paperweights due to capital movements.

Modal Auxiliary posted:

It means your post makes you sound like an insufferable elitist douchebag.

duncandisorderly posted:

I'm guessing that there was something about this lady which somehow cancelled out this absolutely colossal personality defect...

first test of a potential mate is whether they can accomplish a decent cup of tea.


where I worked in madrid, eleven years ago, we had a fingerprint scanner at the public door of the office. sometimes it actually worked, but it never let anyone in that wasn't supposed to be there. this was the streaming start-up I've mentioned elsewhere.

people who go to the supermarket without taking an empty bag of their own (whoever actually does the bagging) need their loving heads examining.
you can keep several carrier bags in your coat pocket or backpack & never know they are there until you need them.

up to me, empty bags at point-of-sale would be $100 each & indestructible.

I queued to use a manned checkout yesterday & remembered why I'd stopped. lady in front of me, with small daughter
("this is a shop, not loving disneyland!")
is paying in cash. this always makes me suspicious- people who do such a big shop but pay cash are trying to evade/avoid something. usually it's tax. a lot of them are shopping to stock a small shop of their own, & use the supermarket as a sort of cash-&-carry, without the same major discount, but maybe it was an emergency.
nothing against this, as a rule- it is supported by the local circumstances, but when she started counting the pennies out & arguing with the checkout bloke about what she'd already handed over, which was still right there in his hand, I started grumbling.
("I did not come here for a loving day out!")

why did I join this queue instead of self-checkout like I usually do? because of this thread, dammit. I thought I'd try it & see.
I do not believe that the checkout staff are fulfilled by what they do. I think this kind of 'occupation' is why we invented robots.

I like the idea of there being staff dotted about the place to help people with transactions that the robot is loving up for some reason, & definitely to help people get stuff into their bags & gently caress off out of the shop quicker, especially if there are children or other things slowing this process down.
but "eggs on top" common sense is seemingly in short supply, so what is to be done?

duncandisorderly posted:

well I'm not one, gently caress you very much.

you are reading my post & channelling your disdain for someone else in my direction. whoever this three olives twat is/was, he wasn't the poster in this very thread who also got behind someone who was counting out the pennies & slowing the queue down.
I'm not a rich rear end in a top hat, but I'd rather not waste my time stood in a queue while someone with rolls of fifties (I didn't mention that part) harrasses the checkout person over pennies.
I meant what I said about the lack of fulfilment in that occupation. there's no need to be assholes.

Modal Auxiliary posted:

It means your post makes you sound like an insufferable elitist douchebag.

duncandisorderly posted:

well I'm not one, gently caress you very much.

duncandisorderly posted:

wow, tough crowd.


you think I'm judging someone because I got impatient with them? gently caress's sake.

"It's a supermarket, not your fiefdom.

People can buy as much stuff as they want and pay how they want.

If you don't like it, that's your problem."

what was this thread for again?

duncandisorderly posted:

well I'm not one, gently caress you very much.

you are reading my post & channelling your disdain for someone else in my direction. whoever this three olives twat is/was, he wasn't the poster in this very thread who also got behind someone who was counting out the pennies & slowing the queue down.
I'm not a rich rear end in a top hat, but I'd rather not waste my time stood in a queue while someone with rolls of fifties (I didn't mention that part) harrasses the checkout person over pennies.
I meant what I said about the lack of fulfilment in that occupation. there's no need to be assholes.

duncandisorderly posted:

@Biplane & teen witch, I don't know what either of you mean.
I recognise mrs bucket, of course, but I don't know what 'three olives' means in this context.

perhaps if you'd been using the same sainos as me for thirty years, you'd know what I was getting at.

mawarannahr posted:

looked this up and a "sainos" is a sainsbury supermarket

duncandisorderly posted:

wow, tough crowd.


you think I'm judging someone because I got impatient with them? gently caress's sake.

"It's a supermarket, not your fiefdom.

People can buy as much stuff as they want and pay how they want.

If you don't like it, that's your problem."

what was this thread for again?

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

duncandisorderly posted:

wow, tough crowd.


you think I'm judging someone because I got impatient with them? gently caress's sake.

"It's a supermarket, not your fiefdom.

People can buy as much stuff as they want and pay how they want.

If you don't like it, that's your problem."

what was this thread for again?

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

duncandisorderly posted:

lady in front of me, with small daughter
("this is a shop, not loving disneyland!")

duncandisorderly posted:

wow, tough crowd.


you think I'm judging someone because I got impatient with them? gently caress's sake.

"It's a supermarket, not your fiefdom.

People can buy as much stuff as they want and pay how they want.

If you don't like it, that's your problem."

what was this thread for again?

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

AARD VARKMAN posted:

this is really the worst part for me lmao, how DARE someone take their small child to the grocery store

duncandisorderly posted:

I'm guessing that there was something about this lady which somehow cancelled out this absolutely colossal personality defect...

first test of a potential mate is whether they can accomplish a decent cup of tea.


where I worked in madrid, eleven years ago, we had a fingerprint scanner at the public door of the office. sometimes it actually worked, but it never let anyone in that wasn't supposed to be there. this was the streaming start-up I've mentioned elsewhere.

people who go to the supermarket without taking an empty bag of their own (whoever actually does the bagging) need their loving heads examining.
you can keep several carrier bags in your coat pocket or backpack & never know they are there until you need them.

up to me, empty bags at point-of-sale would be $100 each & indestructible.

I queued to use a manned checkout yesterday & remembered why I'd stopped. lady in front of me, with small daughter
("this is a shop, not loving disneyland!")
is paying in cash. this always makes me suspicious- people who do such a big shop but pay cash are trying to evade/avoid something. usually it's tax. a lot of them are shopping to stock a small shop of their own, & use the supermarket as a sort of cash-&-carry, without the same major discount, but maybe it was an emergency.
nothing against this, as a rule- it is supported by the local circumstances, but when she started counting the pennies out & arguing with the checkout bloke about what she'd already handed over, which was still right there in his hand, I started grumbling.
("I did not come here for a loving day out!")

why did I join this queue instead of self-checkout like I usually do? because of this thread, dammit. I thought I'd try it & see.
I do not believe that the checkout staff are fulfilled by what they do. I think this kind of 'occupation' is why we invented robots.

I like the idea of there being staff dotted about the place to help people with transactions that the robot is loving up for some reason, & definitely to help people get stuff into their bags & gently caress off out of the shop quicker, especially if there are children or other things slowing this process down.
but "eggs on top" common sense is seemingly in short supply, so what is to be done?

Professor Shark posted:

What a weird post. I think maybe you should use self checkouts if this is how you view other people, spare them from you

duncandisorderly posted:

this.

but also- the last time I let some shop-twunt bag my stuff, he put the eggs at the bottom, then 2L OJ carton went in & hosed them all up.

I will always & forever do my own bagging thanks very much.

as for self-scanning- why not? there seems to be the right balance in my local sainos between manned conveyors with/without bagging-assistance, the self-scan checkouts (with one or two employees dealing with printer ribbons, authentications.... & isn't it a dark day when you get so old-looking that they don't even glance at you, let alone ID you?) & a set of 'smart' checkouts where you take stuff that you've scanned & bagged whilst trawling the aisles.

overall, this part of the shopping experience is my least unfavourite bit.

if it looks from a distance like the self-scan section is full of idiots who've never done it before, I'll queue patiently behind the folks whose one important social event of the week is talking to the checkout person.

I haven't tried the scan-as-you-go option yet, but I need to look into it & see if it presents any of the opportunities-to-steal that the self-scan option does. (e.g. putting heavy stuff through as bags of carrots, or calling the assistant & looking confused when the scales are flagging an error of my deliberate making. things like an emergency purchase of a coin cell that costs pennies on amazon but you can't wait.... pop it down at the same time as a big bag of rice- boom.)

biggest gripe about supermarkets & large shops in general is the way some parents treat it like disneyland & let their grubby spawn run around the place getting in the way, while they dawdle & hum & hah over stuff that they should just grab off the shelf & move the gently caress on.
if the kids are particularly irksome, I may start knocking stuff over so that either the item or the blame lands on them, e.g. those giant displays of piled-up cans you used to see.

I take a shopping list. on a good day, I can be in & out again in ten minutes, & with at least one item unpaid for, but nonetheless, I always get radge with other people dragging their slow asses around MY shop.
bad person.

duncandisorderly posted:

when I worked in camden (the london one) we used to avoid the KFC unless we were absolutely trashed & thrown out of the pub too late to go anywhere else. we called it "unlucky fried kitten".

we stopped going there altogether (so average annual visits went down from two to zero) when we saw one of the poo poo-boys (fast-food operatives) pick up a near-dead rat with his bare hands, lob it into a fryer bin & then continue dispensing the foodstuffs.

duncandisorderly posted:

yep.

I stopped being poor enough to need to shoplift a thousand years ago, but I still do it.

in sainsburys, I do the 'carrots' thing, where anything expensive & heavy goes through the transaction as a big bag of carrots (just dump it onto the scales & don't scan the b/c).

round the corner here is one of those business-park-convenient-mini-markets that has one person there to sell grown-up stuff (baccy, booze), one person to stack shelves, & one security guard. sometimes two. there are ten self-serve checkouts, & while the volume is turned right up on these things, it's only to tell the shop employees that the thing is actually doing something to take money from you while you lob stuff into your bag.
no-one checks.
the trick is to pick two or three things up in one hand & wave ONE barcode at the scanner.
instant discount.

no, I don't have any conscience about this.

Steakandchips posted:

You seen his other ones? He clearly has a problem with poor people. "shop-twunt", "poo poo boys".



It clearly comes from some self-loathing.

AARD VARKMAN posted:

or the rare blessed stories of things de-making GBS threads

duncandisorderly posted:

wow, tough crowd.


you think I'm judging someone because I got impatient with them? gently caress's sake.

"It's a supermarket, not your fiefdom.

People can buy as much stuff as they want and pay how they want.

If you don't like it, that's your problem."

what was this thread for again?

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Serious_Cyclone posted:

I didn't know this was a fanfic thread

AARD VARKMAN posted:

Then in 2020 they completely overhauled to a limited set of subs and toppings, with the toppings preset for most types of sub. It was absolutely bizarre and lasted over 3 years, until last month they just... completely reverted it all.