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If you have a stadium that is easily accessible then undesirables (fans) might show up and that’s bad because stadiums are for corporate suite users.
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Did Japan move away from the closed bid posting system
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Kirios posted:I've seen it first hand, it's partially true. What they don't tell you is the traffic is ungodly terrible around the park and is a massive walk even from the parking lot. It takes forever to get to the game, so yeah, I can see why it takes until the third inning to get to your seat. Yeah I made the mistake of letting my old roommate convince me we were fine to drive and park there last time we went and I will never make that mistake again. I do not give af if/when I ever go to another Dodgers game I am walking up that entire goddamn hill and laughing at the line of cars like a maniac.
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Dec 14, 2023 19:17
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I have a plethora of recommendations when it comes to navigating the hellscape that is Dodger Stadium transit, and none of them include general parking. Please goons, if you ever try to attend a game there, hit me up about your entrance and exit strategy.
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Dec 14, 2023 19:23
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Kirios posted:I've seen it first hand, it's partially true. What they don't tell you is the traffic is ungodly terrible around the park and is a massive walk even from the parking lot. It takes forever to get to the game, so yeah, I can see why it takes until the third inning to get to your seat. They should give the land back to all those Chicano families.
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Dec 14, 2023 19:24
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Sydin posted:Yeah I made the mistake of letting my old roommate convince me we were fine to drive and park there last time we went and I will never make that mistake again. I do not give af if/when I ever go to another Dodgers game I am walking up that entire goddamn hill and laughing at the line of cars like a maniac. I took the free bus from union station each time I went and it was pretty quick and painless. Of course this means you need to be staying somewhere near one of the few metro lines (which are still 9000% better than the nearly non existent public transit I’m used to.)
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Dodger Stadium is oddly terrible given how much rich the franchise has been for so long. I think the last time I was there was the late 90s, hopefully they've remodeled and upgraded some stuff since then.
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Dec 14, 2023 19:28
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live with fruit posted:They should give the land back to all those Chicano families. Agreed they should make the Giants go back to the Polo Grounds too. I don't care that it's gone make them rebuild it in Coogan's Hollow!!!
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I prefer rooting for underdogs but many teams are in that category either deliberately or through incompetence. What am I supposed to hate about the Dodgers? Ohtani, Mookie, Freeman? Competent and competitive ownership? Magic tweets? Vin Scully's legacy? Maybe the fans are bad but I live a couple states away. 
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My grandfather was a Dodgers fan. More impressive because he grew up in the Bronx. He never forgave them for leaving.
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bees x1000 posted:I prefer rooting for underdogs but many teams are in that category either deliberately or through incompetence. What am I supposed to hate about the Dodgers? Ohtani, Mookie, Freeman? Competent and competitive ownership? Magic tweets? Vin Scully's legacy? Maybe the fans are bad but I live a couple states away. Are they though? Roberts has been manager for eight years and has one partial ring despite all the money that's been spent and it feels like he has a lifetime contract. Guys like Seidler and Illitch might blow it but it feels like they really wanted to win a World Series and it feels like that's an added bonus for Dodgers ownership, which is faceless.
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Even as a (former) Angels fan, I don't really feel any little-brother kind of way toward the Dodgers because the teams are nowhere near each other, it's not a crosstown rivalry at all
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mdemone posted:Dodger Stadium is oddly terrible given how much rich the franchise has been for so long. I think the last time I was there was the late 90s, hopefully they've remodeled and upgraded some stuff since then. The stadium itself is fine if kinda unremarkable imo. It's just getting to and from it that sucks, you'd think they've have put in some permanent public transit infrastructure by now besides a bus but the last I heard anything it was some Elon hyperloop nonsense that predictably went nowhere. Really no excuse either when LA has recently built out a ton of subway infrastructure using cut and cover.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Did Japan move away from the closed bid posting system Yeah. Now once a guy is posted he can negotiate with anyone and the fee is based on a percentage of the contract.
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euphronius posted:Where are the Angels even located ? Mt Shasta ? Across the street from Ohtani's apartment.
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euphronius posted:Where are the Angels even located ? Mt Shasta ? Couple blocks from Disneyland
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euphronius posted:Where are the Angels even located ? Mt Shasta ? Either California, of, or Anaheim. Not sure which.
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mdemone posted:Dodger Stadium is oddly terrible given how much rich the franchise has been for so long. I think the last time I was there was the late 90s, hopefully they've remodeled and upgraded some stuff since then. Getting in and out of it is terrible. The food is sub-par. But from a pure baseball viewing standpoint, it is top notch. Sydin posted:The stadium itself is fine if kinda unremarkable imo. It's just getting to and from it that sucks, you'd think they've have put in some permanent public transit infrastructure by now besides a bus but the last I heard anything it was some Elon hyperloop nonsense that predictably went nowhere. Really no excuse either when LA has recently built out a ton of subway infrastructure using cut and cover. What they should have done years ago is divert the Gold line metro over the 110 freeway just north of Chinatown, tunnel into the hillside, underground station in the stadium parking lot, then veer back north to the 110 and rejoin the rest of it's current route on the other side of the river. But that's real public infrastructure so we can't have it because reasons. bawfuls fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Dec 14, 2023 |
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bawfuls posted:Wrong. It is a beautiful perfect place to watch a baseball game. the food thing would bother me if I went to a lot of games there. They really should have first-class food vendors. Honestly the Angels stadium vendors were pretty drat good, it made it easier to watch bad baseball.
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The reason the food at Petco is great is because they reached out to a ton of local restaurant chains and brought them into the stadium. It is such a simple thing and yet the Dodgers have not figured it out. Instead we got generic tacos made by like Aramak, and poo poo like Shake Shack. I just eat at one of the countless good LA food spots before the game and/or grab something to bring in with me. Phillipe's is right by Union Station so that's an easy call when I take the train up. My dad has perfected a Howlin' Rays method where he gets Doordash to deliver it to him at a Home Depot parking lot on his way to the game, since he lives outside their delivery radius and the line at the Chinatown location is too long to reliably hit it pre-game.
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ihatepants posted:This guy? Who also said that he would delete his Twitter if he was wrong about the Yankees getting Machado? 
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live with fruit posted:Are they though? Roberts has been manager for eight years and has one partial ring despite all the money that's been spent and it feels like he has a lifetime contract. Guys like Seidler and Illitch might blow it but it feels like they really wanted to win a World Series and it feels like that's an added bonus for Dodgers ownership, which is faceless. It feels like it needs to be constantly reiterated, but winning a WS is probs on the whole the single most grueling and luck-reliant championship to obtain in all of the major American professional sports. The NBA can have championships almost literally bought by concentrating talent into a superteam and because there are so many separate events in any given basketball game the talent always wins out, you can’t fluke your way into it. The NFL can have a piece of garbage team (like say, any team in this year’s NFC South) punch their ticket to the dance by winning their completely garbage division and just have four games, total, break their way to lift the Lombardi in February. They don’t even have to necessarily play good, the setup for the NFL playoffs is such that an otherwise fraudulent team can meet four teams playing badly or have bad injury luck in a row and just get a ring out of it. It’s completely possible. In contrast, even the very best teams in the mlb are playing a bare minimum of 10 games to get a ring and because of the setup of baseball having three of the best players in the sport still only gets you 1/3 of the possible at-bats of any given game, never mind flukey poo poo like bats going cold due to the relatively small sample size of postseason games. The pendulum can easily swing in either direction of insane under- or over- performance, so if the NBA and NFL are the two ends of the spectrum - where the NBA always has the most talented team winning a chip no matter what and the NFL can and has had otherwise subpar teams in the regular season sort of Magooing their way to a ring - the MLB is the worst of both worlds; you need absurd talent on top of absurd luck, and it’s therefore really illogical to subscribe to ring culture as proof of excellence in this sport. gently caress, Bonds - the consensus best player of all time, at least before Shohei came along - never won one, and you’d be insane to hold that against his resume. MLB just doesn’t work like that, and when people actually do use the “all that matters is rings” mentality for this sport specifically that gets you to such illogic as legitimately arguing that Jeter is a better player than A-Rod.
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It's less about how many events are in a given game and more about how much of the game one given superstar can be directly involved in. But yes, with that distinction, that's exactly right. Billy Beane was right, and about more than just himself: no one's poo poo works in the playoffs. The baseball playoffs are mostly random.
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NieR Occomata posted:gently caress, Bonds - the consensus best player of all time, at least before Shohei came along - never won one, and you’d be insane to hold that against his resume. MLB just doesn’t work like that, and when people actually do use the “all that matters is rings” mentality for this sport specifically that gets you to such illogic as legitimately arguing that Jeter is a better player than A-Rod. Barry Bonds wasn't a team.
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Lol @ baseball playoffs being "grueling". The scheduling is a joke with tons of off days.
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NieR Occomata posted:It feels like it needs to be constantly reiterated, but winning a WS is probs on the whole the single most grueling and luck-reliant championship to obtain in all of the major American professional sports. Eric the Mauve posted:It's less about how many events are in a given game and more about how much of the game one given superstar can be directly involved in. But yes, with that distinction, that's exactly right. bawfuls fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Dec 14, 2023 |
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Are the MLB playoffs more luck-reliant than the NFL playoffs, which is three to four one-and-done games?
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It is funny watching the haters completely unable to decide on what to complain about. The Dodgers are an unfair superteam who are making the sport uncompetitive! Dave Roberts is a fraud and the Dodgers will never win a Real Ring! Schrodinger's Juggernaut.
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live with fruit posted:Are the MLB playoffs more luck-reliant than the NFL playoffs, which is three to four one-and-done games? bawfuls fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Dec 14, 2023 |
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live with fruit posted:Are the MLB playoffs more luck-reliant than the NFL playoffs, which is three to four one-and-done games? No that’s my point. It’s nearly as luck-reliant as the NFL playoffs while also simultaneously being nearly as talent-reliant as the NBA playoffs.
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bawfuls posted:It is funny watching the haters completely unable to decide on what to complain about. it can both be true that all the good FAs signing with the dodgers is tilting people and also true that the dodgers are chronic playoff gaggers who haven't won a legitimate ring since the 80s. i think the ohtani thing is especially gross because of him being from the angels and the luxury tax fuckery.
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euphronius posted:Bonds made the playoffs tho mcmagic posted:it can both be true that all the good FAs signing with the dodgers is tilting people and also true that the dodgers are chronic playoff gaggers who haven't won a legitimate ring since the 80s. i think the ohtani thing is especially gross because of him being from the angels and the luxury tax fuckery. But a lot of those complaints turn into "it's an uncompetitive superteam that is destroying the balance of power in the sport!" which is completely incompatible with the "Dodgers can't win in October" narrative. bawfuls fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Dec 14, 2023 |
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euphronius posted:Just relaxing on a Wednesday night looking at big arms good off-season thread title imo Also for variance between regular season success and postseason success I'd rank it: Hockey Baseball (a close 2nd, especially with more WC teams) . . . Football (Jags 5 years ago were most recent multiple-upset run iirc?) . . . Basketball (Miami last year was the first deep run by a sub-5 seed in a while)
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Sydin posted:Yeah how dare the Dodgers... *checks notes* spend a bunch of money to bring in good players! Absolutely heinous poo poo right there. EVENTUALLY spend a bunch of money to bring in good players 10 years prior
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bawfuls posted:What they should have done years ago is divert the Gold line metro over the 110 freeway just north of Chinatown, tunnel into the hillside, underground station in the stadium parking lot, then veer back north to the 110 and rejoin the rest of it's current route on the other side of the river. But that's real public infrastructure so we can't have it because reasons. Yeah but that's the thing: LA is building out a bunch of real public infrastructure with their subway system and they're doing it faster and more efficiently than basically anywhere else in the country right now because they've actually embraced modern, innovative construction methods that lie on the AM side of the AM/FM spectrum, unlike all the Elon bullshit the politicians usually lap up. Like compare what LA has done to San Jose, where they're saying they *might* be able to accomplish the incredible engineering feet of digging seven miles of subway tunnels by 2034 and are still pointing to the loving water table as the reason they need to import some kind of insanely expensive and finicky pressurized TBM from Switzerland to get the job done. Like there is clearly more political will to build out public transit in LA than there is in most other places in the US right now, so it's wild to me there's no concrete plan to get something extended to the stadium.
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Kevlar v2.0 posted:EVENTUALLY spend a bunch of money to bring in good players 10 years prior per the CBA, the Dodgers will have to begin fully funding their deferred obligations (year-by-year) no later than July 1 two years after the comp is earned. So if Ohtani is deferring a present value of $46M in 2024, the Dodgers have to have that cash set aside by July 1, 2026.
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Poque posted:per the CBA, the Dodgers will have to begin fully funding their deferred obligations (year-by-year) no later than July 1 two years after the comp is earned. So if Ohtani is deferring a present value of $46M in 2024, the Dodgers have to have that cash set aside by July 1, 2026. Oh wow I hadn't heard that part of it yet. Does it have to be actual liquid assets expressly set aside for the purposes of paying the deferred comp or can it just be some kind of vague "oh we've got [x] total assets which covers our deferred comp obligation?" Because if it's the former then that's actually a stupid amount of real money for them to have to set aside and do nothing with waiting for Ohtani to collect it.
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Sydin posted:Yeah but that's the thing: LA is building out a bunch of real public infrastructure with their subway system and they're doing it faster and more efficiently than basically anywhere else in the country right now because they've actually embraced modern, innovative construction methods that lie on the AM side of the AM/FM spectrum, unlike all the Elon bullshit the politicians usually lap up. Like compare what LA has done to San Jose, where they're saying they *might* be able to accomplish the incredible engineering feet of digging seven miles of subway tunnels by 2034 and are still pointing to the loving water table as the reason they need to import some kind of insanely expensive and finicky pressurized TBM from Switzerland to get the job done. Like there is clearly more political will to build out public transit in LA than there is in most other places in the US right now, so it's wild to me there's no concrete plan to get something extended to the stadium. Elysian Park frankly isn't worth the cost of most of the transit solutions pie in the sky Twitter nerds want to see. The bus from Union Station makes sense and is actually a painless and fast way of getting to the game since they started doing dedicated lanes on game days. And as much as I hate McCourt the gondola makes sense too. It's only 5000 people/hour but without a doubt it'll become the iconic way of getting to games and has a ton of touristic upside. The real simple solution to actually offload traffic is just to build some loving walkways and escalators up the hill from Chinatown station like they have at Universal Studios.
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