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Having put this to bed I would say it's better than Kingmaker, worse than WotR. Wrath has a strong driving narrative from beginning to end, this is more a disparate mix of events that just sort of ends. Now, some of those events are cool...but it's just not as strong a whole. All the bugs and poo poo are just Owlcat and kind of irrelevant at this point. In six months this'll be a much better game, but the overall story should be relatively the same.
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Who designed this jungle planet in act 4. I just want to talk.
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Dec 16, 2023 03:10
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pentyne posted:That's when you see all the enemies with different percentage calculations you'd think "oh 40% and 5% what's the point?" but the way the game calculates that is hosed sometimes, much less the mechanics of how burst+overpenetration works. The actual number is meaningless and for a rapid/burst fire you land 1/2 of them as hits minimum against anything short of some dodge monsters. Yeah the percentage chances it shows for burst first chance to hit are kinda hosed. I think it's showing the chances of any one bullet hitting that target, assuming the situation is a frozen tableau. Like when you see those really low 5% or less burst fire hit percentages, I think it's showing the chance of a bullet going to that lane, the first target dodging and the second target getting hit by it. It doesn't account for the first target getting gibbed and the second target becoming open, which tbf you'd have to make a lot of assumptions to give odds for. I wasn't really referring to the cth calculations though, I was talking about how burst fire works mechanically. Burst fire doesn't make direct attack rolls using your BS, the initial BS roll is to see which lane a bullet goes down. Bullets attack the first target in their lane, they don't ever cross over or cross back, if there's no targets or no targets remaining in a lane, the bullet is wasted. If the target is behind cover, there's a 35/60% chance the bullet hits the cover for partial/full cover respectively, +/- whatever cover benefits/maluses. If it doesn't hit cover, the target attempts to dodge. If they dodge, the bullet continues and tries again on the next target in the lane. Bullets can overpen cover/targets to attack the target behind. With high BS/no rapid fire it's a 4/5 chance for a bullet to go down the center lane, the remaining 1/5 are split 50/50 between the left/right lanes. If shooting beyond effective range, it's about 2/5 in the center lane, 2/5 to end up in either left/right, and 1/10 to end up in the extreme left/right lanes that open beyond effective range. With rapidfire, BS has much less impact, it's more like 3/5 in the center lane, 1/5 to each side line. Outside effective range it gets way worse, 1/5 center line, 2/5 to either side lane 2/5 to the extreme side lanes. Running the numbers I was wrong in general, the increase in RoF should make up for wasted bullets even against single targets if you have the talent that removes the damage debuff. If you have that, rapid fire all day every day unless you're afraid of hitting friendlies. Love to remove the chance to dodge attacks then remember my allies are relying on dodge to survive Argenta's insane damage.
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Dec 16, 2023 03:14
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I don't really understand how trading works. Can I just take any item I have enough profit factor to afford?
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Dec 16, 2023 03:16
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Eschatos posted:I don't really understand how trading works. Can I just take any item I have enough profit factor to afford? Yep. Profit factor isn't spent, it's a threshold check.
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Dec 16, 2023 03:17
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Eschatos posted:I don't really understand how trading works. Can I just take any item I have enough profit factor to afford? Yes.
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Dec 16, 2023 03:19
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Eschatos posted:I don't really understand how trading works. Can I just take any item I have enough profit factor to afford? You are so wealthy that your trade empire doesnt exchange resources for things, your court handles all matters of credit for you on your behalf, you just have to be rich enough that the trader knows you are good for it eventually, ie its more of a reputation check then a system of exchange. Its kind of neat. When it comes to large events like funding lavish parties or investing in infrastructure you might spend some of your profit factor on it instead, but it won't cost you profit to buy a single gun off of a trader.
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 Love to give my officers ult ability to assassin yrliet, shes just doing this to every enemy she has ap for. Also something thats kinda worth doing is playing selfish master tactician, if they spend their own stacks on themselves they can also boost their damage to ridiculous levels. Sharkopath fucked around with this message at 03:25 on Dec 16, 2023 |
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I think you start out at 18 which is appallingly low for a Rogue Trader but you did just get cut off from all your holdings, take over the Warrant, and get your ship trashed so people are understandably not clear on whether you can actually pay them. Where it gets weird is when you consider that buying a new macro-cannon broadside for your ship can be easier than a fancy boltgun, but the system is highly abstract.
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Arglebargle III posted:I think you start out at 18 which is appallingly low for a Rogue Trader but you did just get cut off from all your holdings, take over the Warrant, and get your ship trashed so people are understandably not clear on whether you can actually pay them. It started at 10 for me with a +3 I think was from being in the beta.
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Dec 16, 2023 03:26
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Started playing tonight. No familiarity with 40k, I think I played that space marine third person game years ago. Absolutely baffling leveling system. It took me a little while to get pathfinder from knowing dnd but it was mostly familiar, cleave is still cleave. Rogue trader is giving you a lot of choices you will not understand. I guess I now know what it felt like the guys who had never played a crpg before trying wrath of the righteous. What the gently caress is this, let me google build
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Dec 16, 2023 03:48
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Arglebargle III posted:I think you start out at 18 which is appallingly low for a Rogue Trader but you did just get cut off from all your holdings, take over the Warrant, and get your ship trashed so people are understandably not clear on whether you can actually pay them. The broadside is but the hours of serfs. The boltgun represents time committed by a master craftsman.
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Dec 16, 2023 04:13
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Arglebargle III posted:I think you start out at 18 which is appallingly low for a Rogue Trader but you did just get cut off from all your holdings, take over the Warrant, and get your ship trashed so people are understandably not clear on whether you can actually pay them. New Imperial Navy trash vs a blessed relic of the Imperium
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Dec 16, 2023 04:17
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Ok, I think I'm gonna put the game down for a bit after 80 hours. Apparently the quest I'm trying to complete on Quetzal Temer has borked dialogue and it's not offering me the solution I want even if I pass all the skill checks. Will probably come back to it some time after the holidays, hopefully they'll have fixed it by then. Going by Owlcat's discord it seems like Act 4 has quite a few bugs. Not game-breaking but lots of flags not being set correctly and dialogue options missing, so far it's not actively preventing me from finishing the game but I don't want to have to muck around in toybox for hours for it either.
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Dec 16, 2023 04:20
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I think I’m gonna have to stop playing this for quite some time. Getting to Act 3 and having three of my companions straight up disappear fuckin sucks
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Dec 16, 2023 04:21
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AITA : My (F/SoB, ??!) Lord Captain (F/32) keeps shouting things like "The world will bow !" and "I stride in the glory of Chaos !" when we're in battle or she uses a computer or something ; and I feel like I should be bursting full auto right in their face while they sleep but idk. They've been nothing but nice to me and the children, and they're kinda cute ? Wwyd ?
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Dec 16, 2023 04:23
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Sometimes Argenta sure does give off the vibe she likes female attention.
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Dec 16, 2023 04:40
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OP really needs to have a warning telling people not to buy this game right now. Getting 70 hours into a game only to realize your save has at this point accumulated numerous amounts of bugs and glitches, to the point where playing this game is the equivalent of trying to watch satellite tv through signal static and assuming you haven't hard locked yourself, is a new kind of cruel and unusual torture.
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Dec 16, 2023 05:01
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Blessed are the faithful
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Dec 16, 2023 05:05
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I wanna say the quest "Rot" in chapter 2 isn't progressing for me. I have to be in the right spot for this, there's nowhere else in the map that makes sense dude.
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Dec 16, 2023 05:10
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emSparkly posted:I wanna say the quest "Rot" in chapter 2 isn't progressing for me. I have to be in the right spot for this, there's nowhere else in the map that makes sense dude. It's in the middle of the leftside bridge favela catwalk thingy (rightside from you as you exit the bar). The other side, despite the giant ANVERS tags and it being "a nook you can see from the bar" is for a different quest entirely.
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Dec 16, 2023 05:14
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Okay i finally went to that planet Argentia talked up wanting to go in like, I dunno, very late act 4 or something I think and did I miss something, or a lot of something? for a start that was more of an act 2 fight at best, considering the absolute fuckfest fights of the dungeon I had to go through before the system unlocked it was absolutely nothing. Then we don't go in the holy temple boat, Argentia freaks out and runs off, and we pick back up a day later with her saying shes a Sister Repentia now and nothing else has changed. She doesn't have any new dialog. Also? Forceswords? What happened to those? I've found 2, a few dozen hours ago, and they are kitten slaps now.
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SweetBro posted:OP really needs to have a warning telling people not to buy this game right now. Getting 70 hours into a game only to realize your save has at this point accumulated numerous amounts of bugs and glitches, to the point where playing this game is the equivalent of trying to watch satellite tv through signal static and assuming you haven't hard locked yourself, is a new kind of cruel and unusual torture. No it doesn't lol
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Caidin posted:Okay i finally went to that planet Argentia talked up wanting to go in like, I dunno, very late act 4 or something I think and did I miss something, or a lot of something? for a start that was more of an act 2 fight at best, considering the absolute fuckfest fights of the dungeon I had to go through before the system unlocked it was absolutely nothing. Then we don't go in the holy temple boat, Argentia freaks out and runs off, and we pick back up a day later with her saying shes a Sister Repentia now and nothing else has changed. She doesn't have any new dialog. Theres some way with that quest to get her to get hyped up before and she charges in and comes out all holy fervor'd. I was reading about it in Discord but not sure of the criteria to change or if its just an on the spot dialogue thing. Also yeah that Act 4 Ranger ambush sucked lol. Lost Pasqal first round and Rogue trader second. Whats the counterplay vs sniper-type enemies, just countersnipe? Pull em close with Cassia?
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I decided to switch it up and try my "slightly better Argenta" build out on the hardest difficulty and boy is it rough. Scraped by the tutorial boss and had to redo Eurac V so Cassia's buddies join us for the fight against Felek. That first spaceport fight was okay but the second was tough. I'm considering doing the prison with 5 people and hope the extra levels give the needed boost.
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Dec 16, 2023 05:51
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Kobal2 posted:It's in the middle of the leftside bridge favela catwalk thingy (rightside from you as you exit the bar). The other side, despite the giant ANVERS tags and it being "a nook you can see from the bar" is for a different quest entirely. I believe I missed a step between fighting the jerks in the Shadow Quarter and actually heading to their base. That sucks though. If I find where the door to their base is, I should just be able to walk in.
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Dandywalken posted:Theres some way with that quest to get her to get hyped up before and she charges in and comes out all holy fervor'd. I was reading about it in Discord but not sure of the criteria to change or if its just an on the spot dialogue thing. Yeah Yrliet will pop 2 or 3 snipers a turn you give her, she's super useful.
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Dec 16, 2023 06:00
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Ironically thats the quest her romance breaks on lol
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The end of Chapter 3 is like Final Fantasy 14 levels of 'Prepare enough time to view every cutscene', It's kinda funny.
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Mulva posted:Having put this to bed I would say it's better than Kingmaker, worse than WotR. Wrath has a strong driving narrative from beginning to end, this is more a disparate mix of events that just sort of ends. Now, some of those events are cool...but it's just not as strong a whole. I agree with this though I would characterize it more charitably. This game is good, but Wrath is absolutely incredible. The way they handle mythic paths is so much better than similar mechanics has ever been handled in a game imo. Isn't this an entirely original story though? In Kingmaker and Wrath they had the advantage of starting with a module and expanding it. So, a new story plus switching out all the pnp mechanics on a fairly quickly developed game at a reasonably high level of quality ain't a bad effort. It feels a bit like their Tyranny and as much as I loved that game (still one of Obsidian's best imo) I think this is a more solid confident game.
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Chapter 4 vendor rewards also rather funny. At rank 35 Fellowship of the void gives you a sanctified and improved heavy bolter with more damage but a lower firerate. Pretty nice. Kasballica gives you at the apex of their 31 step rep grind: A Dark Lance, nothing special about it. Something you've probably been able to get a hold of since chapter 2. Wierd.
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Wrath's actual plot sucks. The cool part is the way the world reacts to your mythic paths. Skeletor crusading ftw
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Sharkopath posted:Oh Assassin Yrliet is way better than Bounty Hunter, I was wrong big time. Oh yeah. Just to provide a visual example of this:  This is her with the stock rifle she comes with, at IIRC level 23. Bounty Hunter got kinda nerfed into the ground from the Beta, it feels like. The only things it's truly good at now is tearing up heavily-armored enemies and providing a bit of extra support perks on Idira when you build her as a psyker-centric support. For basically anything else, Arch-Militant just blows it out of the water.
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I got a bug where Cassia has infinite turns at the start of every fight. Anyone else get this?
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Yes, sometimes people say it's cause by having people with seize the initiative outside of the party, but there may be other causes.
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Anyone using toybox from the Steam workshop? Surprised to see workshop as an option for mods this time.
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DaysBefore posted:Wrath's actual plot sucks. Wrong.
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SweetBro posted:OP really needs to have a warning telling people not to buy this game right now. Getting 70 hours into a game only to realize your save has at this point accumulated numerous amounts of bugs and glitches, to the point where playing this game is the equivalent of trying to watch satellite tv through signal static and assuming you haven't hard locked yourself, is a new kind of cruel and unusual torture. The Emperor protects!
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I've been flirting with Heinrix just to see his reactions but clearly it's never gonna work out because I'm a filthy super heretic. Is there some point of no return I need to watch out for that would turn off the cheesy romance dialogue for anyone else? If not, well toybox has the polyamory toggle for a reason I guess.
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Terrible Opinions posted:Yes, sometimes people say it's cause by having people with seize the initiative outside of the party, but there may be other causes. That might be it.
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