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Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



Jones also spent years hiding money, Giuliani appears to have spent those years exploring the bottom of bottles.

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GhostofJohnMuir
Aug 14, 2014

anime is not good
god, our democracy is on the verge of being shattered, and its at the hands of absolute buffoons

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
Jones also had lots of money to hide from his FrogTech merch and what not, which Rudy probably doesn't have

Scags McDouglas
Sep 9, 2012

I asked this a few posts ago but is there any chance the damages will be reduced by state law? I was racking my brain to remember a case where it was quickly reduced. I want to say Amber Heard, but apparently it only dropped from 13M to 10M.

Am I crazy? I could swear this happens. I know the amount that Rudy can pay won't change, but I'm wondering if there can be a change to how much he owes.

Zachack
Jun 1, 2000




Scags McDouglas posted:

I asked this a few posts ago but is there any chance the damages will be reduced by state law? I was racking my brain to remember a case where it was quickly reduced. I want to say Amber Heard, but apparently it only dropped from 13M to 10M.

Am I crazy? I could swear this happens. I know the amount that Rudy can pay won't change, but I'm wondering if there can be a change to how much he owes.

That was Alex Jones and Texas, the monster judgement came from Connecticut. This is federal, I think.

Scags McDouglas
Sep 9, 2012

Zachack posted:

That was Alex Jones and Texas, the monster judgement came from Connecticut. This is federal, I think.

THANK YOU

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







After his araignment in Atlanta Rudy was seen walking into a bail bond place that's connected to Buckhead Towing (not in buckhead!). If he'd gone to Spondivits afterwards it would have been a Young Jeezy song.

Dude is broke broke

https://x.com/BrendanKeefe/status/1694456518974767600?s=20

Alumnus Post
Dec 29, 2009

They are weird and troubling. We owe it to our neighbors to kill them.
Pillbug

selec posted:

I’m doing fairly well in this economy, and it still loving sucks! Health care sucks, yet I pay a lot for it; managed to pay off my own student loans, but lord knows I have plenty of friends still feeling strangled by them.

What’s to look forward to? What’s to feel good about? What’s going on on the economy that makes anyone feel like things will feel good again in a societal context within our lifetimes?

This, at least, is what I'm looking forward to...What America thinks of itself now, and how the people who live there tend to act now, is far from the only way to run a world, let alone perceive one. I paid off my loans too, but it cost me my health and about a decade of my life: and on the way I saw enough of what it's like to be at the center that your vibes feel close to my experiences. I really didn't see much besides petty squabbling, and crammed schedules, and leaders dissociated from any real contact with their people on the ground. No clear mission, no clear idea of what it means to succeed: just vibes. It might be getting to the point where folks who want to govern are forgetting how to talk honestly to each other at all, "without fear of punishment and without hope of reward." Or afraid enough of it to send away people who do want to talk honestly.

There's no grand project to take on because - at least in my sight - the projects that are needed are not grand.


selec posted:

Biden might not be our von Hindenburg, but he’s likely to be viewed similarly to him and many other examples of people raised and trained to leadership under the old regime being unable or unwilling to adapt to what came after. Think of your classic “last few leaders before poo poo hit the fan” scenario, I think he’ll be in that category.

Vibes for vibes: I figure recognizing this as a possibility that may yet prove true, also means recognizing that, if it is true, some other political entity will come after. I find that Donald's politics have got vitality, I think, precisely because he's got his fingers gripped on a vital truth, and an old one: that the American state never completely reckoned with how it came to be. The stories never resolved, even if we like to say they have. Do we reject all the wretched things our ancestors did to the First Nations, or do we think it was cool and good? Or do we think there are ways to heal that hurt, both for the people who were hurt and the land that was hurt? Do we think slavery is bad, actually? Does being poor mean you deserve it; and does being rich mean you deserve it? What does it mean to be Christian?

The implied answers to these sorts of questions seem, to me, to be standing behind what political orthodoxy is -- at least, where it isn't just about keeping business-as-usual going. And in turn the stories behind those answers - the guts behind the talking points, the heavy things that can't be spoken of without bringing someone's emotions to fever pitch - are the factors that shape who we are and how we think of ourselves. The choices and the true things we don't often want to look at, for shame, or for fear. Donald gets it. I wish he didn't, because it would mean he isn't as dangerous as he is. It's the story that lives or dies: and the story I fear he's enacting is one I really wish we'd managed to finish with in the 1860s.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.
“Vibes” completely detached from reality are not really conducive to a discussion of current events or the actual policies or proposals of the current administration.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead
Following up on my immigration chat from a few days ago:

CBP doesn't like holding people for more than 72 hours (ideally less) much more than those people like being held, and while I still couldn't find statistics, they seem to assert that post-2021 it doesn't really happen. I was able to find ICE detention stats and while a deep dive is going to have to wait till I'm not on phone, I was able to land at least one immediate takeaway.

Typical length of stay is 45 days, typical length for people who pass a credible fear review is 70. This seems a bit rear end backwards unless the review takes a bit and/or they can just throw people out who fail it. So, possible.

Gonna need to poke around for numbers to guess what proportion of immigrants spend time in ICE detention. Alternatives to detention were something the Biden admin was making strong noises about in 2021 so I'd like harder numbers on that, as a detention-disliker.

https://www.ice.gov/detain/detention-management stats document is at bottom of page

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.

Discendo Vox posted:

“Vibes” completely detached from reality are not really conducive to a discussion of current events or the actual policies or proposals of the current administration.

"Vibes detached from reality" and why thats the case has been one of the core ongoing discussions in this thread for the last several weeks, though, if not longer.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

GlyphGryph posted:

"Vibes detached from reality" and why thats the case has been one of the core ongoing discussions in this thread for the last several weeks, though, if not longer.

Discussing the fact that there is a general mismatch between reality and public perception of economic measures and discussing specific possible causes, is not the same thing as indulging in the same delusions, live, here, about all existence, to the point of wide-ranging prophecies about Hindenburg.

Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 01:01 on Dec 16, 2023

Mendrian
Jan 6, 2013

The Satanic Temple is pretty open about being deliberately spurious to prove a point. Someone who wanted to try could try to craft a judgment around that but everyone is too busy clutching their pearls to try.

alf_pogs
Feb 15, 2012


Mendrian posted:

The Satanic Temple is pretty open about being deliberately spurious to prove a point.

the perfect cover as they infiltrate society with DnD games and kardashian tv shows

VorpalBunny
May 1, 2009

Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog
I know it's been a busy news day, but have we already covered the adventures in the Senate Hearing Room, allegedly filmed by Dick Durbin's intern? Because it's all over Twitter/X but I can't find any real news stories about it.

I love that a ton of conservative pearl-clutchers are spending their Friday night watching gay porn...as usual. :dumbrim:

Eric Cantonese
Dec 21, 2004

You should hear my accent.

VorpalBunny posted:

I know it's been a busy news day, but have we already covered the adventures in the Senate Hearing Room, allegedly filmed by Dick Durbin's intern? Because it's all over Twitter/X but I can't find any real news stories about it.

I love that a ton of conservative pearl-clutchers are spending their Friday night watching gay porn...as usual. :dumbrim:

I haven't seen anything about this. Got a link of any kind?

VorpalBunny
May 1, 2009

Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog

Eric Cantonese posted:

I haven't seen anything about this. Got a link of any kind?

Does it count as spreading revenge porn?

https://www.volnation.com/forum/threads/staffer-for-democrat-sen-ben-cardin-filmed-gay-porn-in-senate-hearing-room.360088/#post-23466318
https://dailycaller.com/2023/12/15/staffer-caught-filming-sex-tape-senate-hearing-room/

Eric Cantonese
Dec 21, 2004

You should hear my accent.
Oh, I guess I misread your description of the story in your post.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.




Do you have sources for this that aren’t a gross chud forum and the daily motherfucking caller?

I’m not accusing you of believing this or nothing. I’m just not seeing much evidence a thing even happened.

VorpalBunny
May 1, 2009

Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog

Xiahou Dun posted:

Do you have sources for this that aren’t a gross chud forum and the daily motherfucking caller?

I’m not accusing you of believing this or nothing. I’m just not seeing much evidence a thing even happened.

Friend, I haven't even watched the video to be able to say if it's a deepfake or whatever and frankly I never will, like I never saw any of the Hunter Biden videos. I only got that weird forum link via Google to see if it's out anywhere besides Twitter, though I hesitated to type in Dick Durbin Senate gay porn.

It's out there, it's being discussed on Twitter and they are doxxing the staffer they claim it is from.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



O okay. So it’s just entirely made up. (And yet it can still cause great harm via the people who believe in it.)

It’s exhausting talking about nested Right wing un-realities, sorry about that.

A big flaming stink
Apr 26, 2010
https://twitter.com/StrikeDebt/status/1735786864475357279

This kind of seems like a big problem for the lender industry

Seems like they may have hosed it trying to resume loans instead of just letting poo poo continue in limbo!

Aztec Galactus
Sep 12, 2002

A big flaming stink posted:

https://twitter.com/StrikeDebt/status/1735786864475357279

This kind of seems like a big problem for the lender industry

Seems like they may have hosed it trying to resume loans instead of just letting poo poo continue in limbo!

This claim seems to be made without elaboration or any evidence at all, but it does include an advertisement. I wouldn't call this credible

A big flaming stink
Apr 26, 2010

Aztec Galactus posted:

This claim seems to be made without elaboration or any evidence at all, but it does include an advertisement. I wouldn't call this credible

https://twitter.com/mstratford/status/1735753940849852867

the claim appears to be credible, but also, what are they advertising? The only link I found was a link to their website with a tool to make a petition to the department of education

if that's what you are referring to, I think its a bit disingenuous to call encouragement to petition a government entity "advertisement"

Kalit
Nov 6, 2006

The great thing about the thousands of slaughtered Palestinian children is that they can't pull away when you fondle them or sniff their hair.

That's a Biden success story.

A big flaming stink posted:

https://twitter.com/mstratford/status/1735753940849852867

the claim appears to be credible, but also, what are they advertising? The only link I found was a link to their website with a tool to make a petition to the department of education

if that's what you are referring to, I think its a bit disingenuous to call encouragement to petition a government entity "advertisement"

They claimed 40% “refused” to pay. Which is not the same as 40% haven’t paid yet by mid-November on their October payment.

The number of people who “refused” is unknown and that wording is being used in an attempt to create a narrative.

Kalit fucked around with this message at 15:48 on Dec 16, 2023

Ither
Jan 30, 2010

Xiahou Dun posted:

O okay. So it’s just entirely made up. (And yet it can still cause great harm via the people who believe in it.)

It’s exhausting talking about nested Right wing un-realities, sorry about that.

It's not made up. A credible NSFW gay site also has the story.

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010

Mendrian posted:

The Satanic Temple is pretty open about being deliberately spurious to prove a point. Someone who wanted to try could try to craft a judgment around that but everyone is too busy clutching their pearls to try.

The issue is that if they discredit the Satanic Temple, they discredit their own religious beliefs.

Heck Yes! Loam!
Nov 15, 2004

a rich, friable soil containing a relatively equal mixture of sand and silt and a somewhat smaller proportion of clay.

Morrow posted:

The issue is that if they discredit the Satanic Temple, they discredit their own religious beliefs.

Many of them don't actually have those and would gladly contradict them for some ingroup virtue signaling.

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

Discendo Vox posted:

“Vibes” completely detached from reality are not really conducive to a discussion of current events or the actual policies or proposals of the current administration.

has anyone said Discendo Vibes yet?

Ither posted:

It's not made up. A credible NSFW gay site also has the story.

USCE 2023: A credible NSFW gay site also has the story.

InsertPotPun
Apr 16, 2018

Pissy Bitch stan

GhostofJohnMuir posted:

god, our democracy is on the verge of being shattered, and its at the hands of absolute buffoons
just gonna quote myself

InsertPotPun posted:

jesus christ things wouldn't be so bad if they weren't also so loving stupid you know? it's like losing a baseball game to a team full of naked clowns.
like if you were playing a normal game of baseball and then a bunch of naked clowns came running out of the dugout and started tumbling and running around tying balloon animals and juggling and you're all laughing and poo poo because what the hell and then you look up and, somehow, their score is going up??

World Famous W
May 25, 2007

BAAAAAAAAAAAA
not your point, but that might actually get me to sit through a baseball game past the fourth inning

Rebel Blob
Mar 1, 2008

Extinction for our time

Morrow posted:

The issue is that if they discredit the Satanic Temple, they discredit their own religious beliefs.
Doesn't matter one iota.

Sarcastro
Dec 28, 2000
Elite member of the Grammar Nazi Squad that

Ither posted:

It's not made up. A credible NSFW gay site also has the story.

We're not at work - post it.

TheDisreputableDog
Oct 13, 2005
Is the NSFW gay site in question SA

Gumball Gumption
Jan 7, 2012

It's being taken seriously in Congress, Cardin's office fired the staffer who claims the video is fake.

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2023/12/16/senate-staffer-out-after-sex-tape-scandal-00132143

121423_2
Dec 14, 2023
my Company won't let me look at pornography :qq:

Papercut
Aug 24, 2005
This is what happens when you let people wear shorts

Ither
Jan 30, 2010

Sarcastro posted:

We're not at work - post it.

As requested. Link to NSFW gay site that has the story.

:nws: https://str8upgayporn.com/leaked-video-shows-aide-to-u-s-senator-being-hosed-up-the-rear end-in-senate-hearing-room/ :nws:

Jesus III
May 23, 2007
Don't gently caress at work. Don't film it. Don't put it on the internet.

They seem so easy to remember, but someone always forgets.

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Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Jesus III posted:

gently caress at work. Film it. Put it on the internet.

They seem so easy to remember, but someone always forgets.

Gotcha!

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