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Pillowpants posted:Update gently caress man, that sucks. Hope you make a full and speedy recovery PP.
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Dec 17, 2023 18:24
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Gunshow Poophole posted:i was just moving some garbage cans around by some bushes yeah Did you end up just taking a Benadryl and applying some hydrocortisone cream and just waiting it out?
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Dec 17, 2023 18:32
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Woodsy Owl posted:Did you end up just taking a Benadryl and applying some hydrocortisone cream and just waiting it out? I too rush to greet the hatman upon every minor injury
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Dec 17, 2023 18:56
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The Maroon Hawk posted:as someone that’s admittedly less militant about masks than the rest of this thread, I will still never, ever, ever understand why medical facilities ever dropped their mask mandates Yep, and you can't just "stay home" if you need a doctor / dentist / hospital. It's essentially a policy of forced infection, and therefore forced Long COVID / PASC and death for a lot of people. It's horrific.
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Dec 17, 2023 19:23
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yeah it's fine I'm fine lol I was just making a not very humorous observation about taking great care with hygiene
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Dec 17, 2023 19:24
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The Maroon Hawk posted:as someone that’s admittedly less militant about masks than the rest of this thread, I will still never, ever, ever understand why medical facilities ever dropped their mask mandates it just begs questions people cant be allowed to ask like "hey if this is a big enough deal to try to prevent spread here then what about..." and then people might eventually start asking dangerous and expensive questions like "why dont we mandate upper room uv or filtration standards for all buildings?" it's a totalizing system, so those questions have to be punched down on so hard that you aren't allowed to ask why no one is wearing masks inside an infectious disease ward anymore because wondering about that has been officially classified as an anxiety disorder
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Dec 17, 2023 20:38
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We couldn't possibly mandate businesses and schools and government buildings etc install better air systems. Absolutely not. The deaths and disablements must continue.
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Dec 17, 2023 21:03
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silicone thrills posted:We couldn't possibly mandate businesses and schools and government buildings etc install better air systems. Why, of course we haven't done exactly this on a massive scale within living memory, how Absurd!
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Dec 17, 2023 21:04
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That would cost money, we're here to make money (off the backs of the dead and disabled)
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Dec 17, 2023 21:35
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toggle posted:studies have said that wearing masks CAN BE DANGEROUS arent you like definitely getting salt/crumbs all over the valve/mask idk sounds less than ideal
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Dec 17, 2023 21:54
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This entire COVID thing is less than ideal if you ask me.
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Dec 17, 2023 22:22
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tangy yet delightful posted:This entire COVID thing is less than ideal if you ask me. Martha Stewart tried to sell me covid vaccines over the grocery store radio today. the efficiencies of the marketplace!
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Dec 17, 2023 22:36
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got covid for the first time in October and two of my friends just got through it. one is 25 and was in great shape and now gets winded after 5 minutes of moderate exercise. he'll yeah toggle posted:stuffing pretzel sticks into my feeding hole/sip mask valve the entire flight just got a new thread title so let's keep this one in our back pocket
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Dec 17, 2023 22:50
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Unsurprising results, considering what we already know to be happening. But the reason why is interesting enough and should be considered next time we see heavily mutated variants spreading; particularly when that spread hinges on ACE2 binding. "Fast evolution of SARS-CoV-2 BA.2·86 to JN.1 under heavy immune pressure" https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(23)00744-2/fulltext posted:The SARS-CoV-2 saltation variant BA.2.86, which was quickly designated as a variant under monitoring after its emergence, has garnered global attention. Although BA.2.86 did not show substantial humoral immune escape and growth advantage compared with current dominant variants, such as EG.5.1 and HK.3, it showed remarkably high ACE2 binding affinity. This increased binding affinity, coupled with its distinct antigenicity, could enable BA.2.86 to accumulate immune-evasive mutations during low-level populational transmission, akin to the previous evolution from BA.2.75 to CH.1.1 and XBB. With just one additional receptor binding domain mutation (L455S) compared to its predecessor BA.2.86, the JN.1 variant rapidly became predominant in France (figure A; appendix 1 p 12), surpassing both BA.2.86 and the so-called FLip (L455F+F456L) strains. A thorough investigation into the immune evasion capability of JN.1, particularly given its few additional mutations, is imperative. Yunlong Cao's tweet thread about the results can be found here: https://nitter.net/yunlong_cao/status/1736297746443677728
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Dec 17, 2023 23:09
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Pingui posted:Unsurprising results, considering what we already know to be happening. But the reason why is interesting enough and should be considered next time we see heavily mutated variants spreading; particularly when that spread hinges on ACE2 binding. Thanks for this. The immune system is way too complicated for easy answers unfortunately.
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Dec 17, 2023 23:19
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JN.1 (& Co.) is really making a splash worldwide, here are the numbers on global sequencing 1 week apart: https://twitter.com/RajlabN/status/1733722142326321649#m https://twitter.com/RajlabN/status/1736084044280889585#m It should be noted that due to this being the aggregate total of sequencing, some countries are much more heavily represented than others. Represented here by the last 30 days (counting back from 16 December): 
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Dec 17, 2023 23:31
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CGI Stardust posted:Al-Aly is irritated; for some reason the Daily Mail headline (and a bunch of other UK newspapers) is framing his new study as if influenza is worse than COVID Christ, yah, getting this from an acquaintance. "No worse than the flu now bro, long-flu is a thing too", yada yada.
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Dec 17, 2023 23:32
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 https://www.moh.gov.sg/news-highlights/details/update-on-local-covid-19-situation(A) posted:UPDATE ON LOCAL COVID-19 SITUATION As you can tell by the following charts, the sequencing is a few weeks behind...  Source (Singapore's Ministry of Health's official tally): https://www.moh.gov.sg/covid-19/statistics
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Dec 17, 2023 23:42
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CGI Stardust posted:oh, this is some premium Al-Aly and co doing another VA database analysis in quite a bit of detail. i don't think anyone posted details? although there's nothing that will be a surprise to anyone here Thank you for the great run-through of a great study 
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Dec 17, 2023 23:48
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Gunshow Poophole posted:i was just moving some garbage cans around by some bushes yeah Rats keep themselves cleaner than humans these days.
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Dec 17, 2023 23:56
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Baddog posted:Christ, yah, getting this from an acquaintance. I usually respond to this with, "Ok, let's say that's true. People on average catch actual influenza twice a decade. How many times have you or loved ones been infected by COVID so far?" It just leads to a topic change but maybe it gets some thought going.
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Dec 18, 2023 01:07
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tuyop posted:you need to buy a life insurance policy for your mother and tell her you’ve done so. chill out man
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Dec 18, 2023 02:26
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Someone I know who's immunocompromised got infected, and they missed the recent booster too. They're in the process of trying to get Paxlovid (UK, so no t2t or anything.) Is there anything else I can recommend that would help, other than asking about Metformin? They're really worried.
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Dec 18, 2023 02:39
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Yall still shocked when you go to a medical office and there are no masks? I told yall we gave up the mask hoax over a year ago lmao.
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Dec 18, 2023 02:54
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pretty sure we gave up on masks 3 years ago
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Dec 18, 2023 03:01
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Asproigerosis posted:Yall still shocked when you go to a medical office and there are no masks? I told yall we gave up the mask hoax over a year ago lmao. I’ll have you know one out of three lab receptionists was masked on my last visit earlier this week! sure, it was a glittery cloth mask from two+ years ago, but it was covering her nose and mouth! (seriously though, at one point the waiting room was over 60% masked with more than a few kn94s! I was actually impressed).
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Dec 18, 2023 03:04
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Asproigerosis posted:Yall still shocked when you go to a medical office and there are no masks? I told yall we gave up the mask hoax over a year ago lmao. My doctors office was still 100% masking when I went in a few weeks ago. So was my eye doctor when I went in last week. And about a month ago when I had my endo/colo. Seattle Kaisers stay winning
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Dec 18, 2023 03:05
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Why Am I So Tired posted:Yep, and you can't just "stay home" if you need a doctor / dentist / hospital. It's essentially a policy of forced infection, and therefore forced Long COVID / PASC and death for a lot of people. It's horrific. 
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Dec 18, 2023 03:08
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The people in the waiting room as I was leaving were primarily dick-nosing. I'm glad I keep hand sanitizer wipes in the car. In better news, my new humidifier and gallon jug of hypochlorous acid came in today's mail.
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Dec 18, 2023 03:14
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“Acktually, long flu is worse than long COVID! What’s that you say? Will we restart doing any the precautions that stomped flu transmission to null? Ha ha don’t be ridiculous.”
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Dec 18, 2023 03:57
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The article is awful but the subhead is gold. loving Shaun of the Dead‐rear end journos
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Dec 18, 2023 04:18
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Platystemon posted:The article is awful but the subhead is gold. cannot be serious lol
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Dec 18, 2023 04:52
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Platystemon posted:The article is awful but the subhead is gold.
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Dec 18, 2023 04:55
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man you weren't joking about the article being trash. the comments are...not bad though, overall? the majority seem to be aware that "just wash your hands! also it's immunity debt! and somehow, it's also all in your head!" is bullshit dark lol at the most recent comment though  if only there was something this person could do to protect themselves
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Dec 18, 2023 05:21
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Mola Yam posted:man you weren't joking about the article being trash. the comments are...not bad though, overall? Tbh I kind of disagree with this, not that I don't wish it were true but I feel like americans have always been weird about refusing to acknowledge sickness or that it spreads. I think a big part of that is our lovely work culture with respect to sick time/pto in general but even in places with good rules/benefits about this sort of thing it's like a weird badge of honor to show up to the office sick and hack at your desk/in meetings for the rest of the day.
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Dec 18, 2023 05:49
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Mola Yam posted:man you weren't joking about the article being trash. It’s a sick joke. quote:To some extent, it’s simple math — Covid now adds to the infectious diseases already spreading every virus season Correct, but what is unstated is that COVID as a single term outweighs the entirety of the prior disease burden. It is not “just another seasonal ick”. It is an infectious disease of a caliber that Westerners used to know only from the pages of history texts and National Geographic. quote:Unfortunately, immunity to many of the viruses that make people sick doesn’t last very long, Dr. Luis Ostrosky, chief of infectious diseases and epidemiology at UTHealth Houston and Memorial Hermann, said. That means your body has a sort of immunity debt to catch up on. “If your immunity dates back to strains that were in circulation three or four years ago, you’re needing to pay back,” Dr. Ostrosky said. This is holding two contradictory beliefs in one’s mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them. If such immunity is short‐lived, it doesn’t matter that half‐assed interventions existed for a time that is now two years in the past. The Times further gaslights readers by saying essentially “it’s all in your head. You’ve always been sick for weeks on end”. quote:Paying closer attention to respiratory symptoms may also make it seem like we’re sick for longer, said Dr. Debra Langlois, a pediatrician at the University of Michigan Health C.S. Mott Children’s Hospital. But a 2013 review of common respiratory infections in children found that the time it takes for illness to resolve has always been staggering: It can take 15 days to clear a common cold, and 25 days for a cough to go away in most cases. And rebounds? Learned physicians tell us that those don’t happen. quote:“But what’s really reassuring to us as doctors is that even if you have a day or two or a week break, that means it’s a separate virus.” It’s funny how that doesn’t apply when talking about antiviral medicine or when counting COVID infections. You have symptoms eighty‐nine days after you last had COVID? That’s the same infection, citizen.
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Dec 18, 2023 05:56
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Frankly I think we need to see numbers before declaring covid a new super flu now that it's beyond the novel infection stage of ravaging everyone everywhere all at once. Thankfully governments have established robust, well staffed, and funded programs to do this as aftermath of the initial pandemic.
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Dec 18, 2023 06:24
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Asproigerosis posted:Frankly I think we need to see numbers before declaring covid a new super flu now that it's beyond the novel infection stage of ravaging everyone everywhere all at once. Thankfully governments have established robust, well staffed, and funded programs to do this as aftermath of the initial pandemic. Everyone has covid op 
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Dec 18, 2023 08:35
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genericnick posted:Everyone has covid op Literally half my team got wiped at the christmas party. The first man hast the glühwein the second has the punsch. When the first man falls the second picks up the glühwein
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Dec 18, 2023 11:19
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genericnick posted:Literally half my team got wiped at the christmas party. The first man hast the glühwein the second has the punsch. When the first man falls the second picks up the glühwein o7
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Dec 18, 2023 11:20
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