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I still think Saleh and Douglas are with the Jets in 2024. I'm just banking on the owner's cheapness and Rodgers' injury being a good enough excuse. I don't necessarily want them back, but I think the alternatives are even more dire. Hackett round 2 anybody?
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Bjork Bjowlob posted:I still think Saleh and Douglas are with the Jets in 2024. I'm just banking on the owner's cheapness and Rodgers' injury being a good enough excuse. Jets legend Aaron Glenn as comedy option.
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Kirios posted:Yeah everything I've been reading about the Jets over the last couple of weeks indicates that Saleh is a dead man walking. So then Johnson lets the Joe Douglas pick another head coach? And if the team flops again in 2024 with Rodgers at QB, he... fires Douglas?
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:So then Johnson lets the Joe Douglas pick another head coach? And if the team flops again in 2024 with Rodgers at QB, he... fires Douglas? If Saleh goes, so does Douglas and vice versa. I have no idea who would be the GM candidates in this situation, but there's no way Douglas gets to pick another HC, nor would an incoming GM expect to keep Saleh.
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wilderthanmild posted:I thought Pickett was generally viewed as a mid to late first round grade? Like in retrospect he doesn't seem to be worth that, but I don't think it was viewed to be a reach to take him at 20 and they needed a QB. I think that grade was more “well if you really wanna pick a QB here, he’s the best option I guess” and the Steelers desperately needed a QB. I don’t remember him being widely viewed as an immediate starter or high ceiling guy even on a team with an otherwise ok roster. There was also a lot of “But if this does work, it’ll be really cool” kind of narrative reasons around drafting him too. I’m not gonna say the Steelers should’ve seen Brock Purdy coming, but they left themselves no option but to talk themselves into a guy who was a second tier prospect at best. The Steelers are in that lovely spot now where they can’t quite give up on Pickett, but deep down know that he’s probably not the answer. I guess there’s the hope that a full off-season with a real OC could right the ship.
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Ornery and Hornery posted:Jets are in a reasonable draft position to draft QB3 in the upcoming draft. Idk if that matters or not. Most coaching regimes don’t get three chances to get a franchise qb. These loving morons better not get a chance to draft another QB. OT and the next regime gets to pick their QB in 2025.
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Kirios posted:Yeah everything I've been reading about the Jets over the last couple of weeks indicates that Saleh is a dead man walking. What are you reading? The entire beat and NY media is saying he's safe? Diva Cupcake posted:Woody has had a type since Parcells was hired. First time head coaches, always on the defensive side of the ball. If Saleh gets fired it'll be like Mike Macdonald or Lou Anarumo. Maybe Ejiro Evero but in that situation he'd just keep Hackett as OC since they're BFFs. Woody didn't hire Parcells...... Leon Hess did. Also, we know for sure Saleh sucks. Bring the next guy, they can't be worse.
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"You can't fire your DC when you're on the cusp of barely making the playoffs!  "
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Bjork Bjowlob posted:If Saleh goes, so does Douglas and vice versa. I have no idea who would be the GM candidates in this situation, but there's no way Douglas gets to pick another HC, nor would an incoming GM expect to keep Saleh. Ok, so then an incoming GM has to work with Rodgers and/or deal with taking their cap medicine. Perhaps not the biggest obstacle, but it's going to certainly affect the pool of candidates. Still seems like the three's fortunes are all tied together.
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:Ok, so then an incoming GM has to work with Rodgers and/or deal with taking their cap medicine. Perhaps not the biggest obstacle, but it's going to certainly affect the pool of candidates. The only model that would work for the Jets is what they did in Denver. A HC who knows what the gently caress they are doing with some clout and he gets to hire whoever he wants as GM and in the FO.
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mcmagic posted:The only model that would work for the Jets is what they did in Denver. A HC who knows what the gently caress they are doing with some clout and he gets to hire whoever he wants as GM and in the FO. I know a great candidate who meets all that criteria that will soon be available.
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:I know a great candidate who meets all that criteria that will soon be available. I would drive up to boston to get him.
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Blind Pineapple posted:I think that grade was more “well if you really wanna pick a QB here, he’s the best option I guess” and the Steelers desperately needed a QB. I don’t remember him being widely viewed as an immediate starter or high ceiling guy even on a team with an otherwise ok roster. There was also a lot of “But if this does work, it’ll be really cool” kind of narrative reasons around drafting him too. We've seen Brock Purdy in a Steelers-like offense, for 4 years at Iowa State and he sucked!
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mcmagic posted:Woody didn't hire Parcells...... Leon Hess did. Also, we know for sure Saleh sucks. Bring the next guy, they can't be worse.
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mcmagic posted:I would drive up to boston to get him. You know he'd do it again.
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sirtommygunn posted:You know he'd do it again. You know he despises woody johnson and rightly views the Jets fracnhise as a pathetic joke right?
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mcmagic posted:You know he despises woody johnson and rightly views the Jets fracnhise as a pathetic joke right? Sounds like a Jets fan!!!
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mcmagic posted:You know he despises woody johnson and rightly views the Jets fracnhise as a pathetic joke right? Are you Bill????? efb
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:Sounds like a Jets fan!!! Lmao
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Posted about it in the NFCN thread but it's not surprising at all that Barry isn't getting let go until the end of the season. It's pretty widely assumed that his contract is up then and considering none of the position coaches inspire confidence or have playcalling experience keeping Barry in place is likely the best option available.
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:Are you Bill????? Unlike Bill, I would take 20 million a year from Woody to run his dogshit team
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Hot Diggity! posted:Posted about it in the NFCN thread but it's not surprising at all that Barry isn't getting let go until the end of the season. It's pretty widely assumed that his contract is up then and considering none of the position coaches inspire confidence or have playcalling experience keeping Barry in place is likely the best option available. Packers DC is an eternally hated position.
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I really like Mike Tomlin and don't him to go, but it does feel like the first time things just aren't working out in the locker room. Or as someone pointed out above, the managing of the players he's known for is failing somewhere. I think 1 losing season out of 16 will cause fans to overreact (me included), because we're spoiled sausage people.
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Relentlessboredomm posted:let tomlin come home to tampa, we have rock bottom expectations unlike the filthy PA savages Bowles having that roster with baker friggin mayfield at QB at .500 deserves to keep that job
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mcmagic posted:Bowles having that roster with baker friggin mayfield at QB at .500 deserves to keep that job I like the way you think.
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I mean I don't think Bowles is a good coach but it's hard to argue that he's done a good job this year................
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Bucs should fire Bowles and promote the OC I hope the Bucs win the NFCS. They have some actually good players who can do stuff and Baker is exciting for both teams
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Shes Not Impressed posted:I really like Mike Tomlin and don't him to go, but it does feel like the first time things just aren't working out in the locker room. Or as someone pointed out above, the managing of the players he's known for is failing somewhere. Not a steelers fan but Pickens has to go, he’s a problem and it’s only going to get worse
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mcmagic posted:I mean I don't think Bowles is a good coach but it's hard to argue that he's done a good job this year................ he absolutely has not. he's got a charmin soft schedule, minimal major injuries, and most of the losses have come from Bowles defense making GBS threads the bed. the best thing he did was hire Canales. in any other division this team is fighting for 6 wins
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Ron Rivera is a fine person, a mediocre head coach and the biggest drizzled poo poo of a head football operations person I have ever seen.
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Is he a decent DC? Idk why but he does seem just gosh darn lovable. Can’t stay mad at him.
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He seems like a good "culture" add for a team. And by that, I mean you give him an office where his computer doesn't actually work and he has plenty of film to watch and players can come in to talk with him whenever, but he doesn't actually do anything. It's important that he doesn't know the last part.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Bucs should fire Bowles and promote the OC This sounds familiar.  How’d it turn out last time?
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Relentlessboredomm posted:he absolutely has not. he's got a charmin soft schedule, minimal major injuries, and most of the losses have come from Bowles defense making GBS threads the bed. the best thing he did was hire Canales. in any other division this team is fighting for 6 wins It's this. Tomlin would have 9-10 wins with this roster and schedule. With that said, Bowles just coached his best game as TB HC.
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I feel like Bowles is like EXACTLY replacement level. It does look like he's doing less of filling his staff with his buddies than he did with the Jets.
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mcmagic posted:Bowles having that roster with baker friggin mayfield at QB at .500 deserves to keep that job I hope the bucs agree
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