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A fun thing about the Capaldi era is, despite Moffat moving away from convoluted myth arcs, that era features the (accidentally) biggest and craziest self-causation timeloop in the whole show. By the end of it there are three timelines: 1) the First Doctor refused to regenerate and died at the South Pole 2) the Doctor lived 13 lives and died at Trenzalore 3) the Doctor survived Trenzalore Except it was the Twelfth Doctor from Timeline 3 who went back and ended up convincing the First Doctor to go on, so Timeline 3 created Timeline 2 and then went on to create itself, pulling two entire timelines up by their bootstraps. Even when he's trying to keep things simple, Moffat fills the margin with doodled headache-inducing time travel shenanigans, is the moral of the story
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I see 121 new posts got posted so far today, but thankfully Tom Baker is still alive.
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Dec 18, 2023 20:48
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Edward Mass posted:I see 121 new posts got posted so far today, but thankfully Tom Baker is still alive. Don't jinx it. We've all seen the pictures from that article.
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Dec 18, 2023 20:51
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Edward Mass posted:I see 121 new posts got posted so far today, but thankfully Tom Baker is still alive. Great, you shrank him another 5cm
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Dec 18, 2023 20:54
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I see the name pop up on twitter trends from time to time, get a little panicky, and each time it's just thousands of posts to the effect of "oh thank god he's still alive." But what's causing Tom Baker to trend in the first place? DOCTOR WHO AND THE MYSTERY OF THE ALGORITHM
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Dec 18, 2023 20:55
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Usually it's a picture of Tom with cats
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Dec 18, 2023 20:59
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“This culturally relevant person who flies just under the radar enough that nobody has realized he has to be like, 170 at this point” would make a good story.
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Dec 18, 2023 20:59
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Dec 18, 2023 21:01
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He did an interview where he said he views the other Doctors with vague contempt recently enough that the clickbait sites will pass it around periodically for awhile, lol.
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Dec 18, 2023 21:01
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For whatever reason, I actually kinda love these photos and don’t really get the same kind of dread others seem to get from them. The man is 88 years old and still has that mischievous twinkle in his eye. I get a genuine sense of satisfaction that Tom’s had such a long life and still clearly feels some joy for the role he’s best known for. Pertwee, Troughton, and Hartnell all died relatively young, especially the latter two. Tom is nearing 90, which is awesome.
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Dec 18, 2023 22:23
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Yeah he looks great for his age and I like that he has the same silhouette even in the hair, just older. In 30-40 years the thread will come around on his youthfulness in those pics compared to their own.
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Dec 18, 2023 23:15
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Of course, I was very, very drunk at the time.
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Dec 18, 2023 23:19
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I adore that he has his old Doctor hairstyle back. Having the short curly look he sported in Day of the Doctor always felt kind of weird. Give me a mess of wild hair for the wild alien man who likes jelly babies.
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Dec 18, 2023 23:22
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Big Mean Jerk posted:For whatever reason, I actually kinda love these photos and don’t really get the same kind of dread others seem to get from them. The man is 88 years old and still has that mischievous twinkle in his eye. I get a genuine sense of satisfaction that Tom’s had such a long life and still clearly feels some joy for the role he’s best known for. Troughton and Hartnell both dying at 67 really puts McGann being 64, Capaldi being 65, and how much life expectancy and lifestyle have changed and impact longevity.
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Boxturret posted:When I watched that seson I was kinda not feeling 12 and legitamately hoped they were serious that Clara had been the doctor too the whole time lol. Like a much later version that came to help themselves out. Yeah that'd be my pitch for the show; a whole season which is secretly a set of multidoctor stories. Also an episode where the Doctor finds someone in a desolate landscape being pursued across by their worst enemies. It would be called Quarry of the Daleks.
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Dec 18, 2023 23:24
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Yeah, when I first saw the thumbnail my immediate reaction was,"Oh wow, he's aged a huge amount the last few years" but then I opened them and he's still got that "Tom" look in his eyes, like he's in on a joke that the rest of the Universe doesn't know and wouldn't understand if they did.
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2house2fly posted:A fun thing about the Capaldi era is, despite Moffat moving away from convoluted myth arcs, that era features the (accidentally) biggest and craziest self-causation timeloop in the whole show. By the end of it there are three timelines: Now you see, that's what everybody gets wrong. It's all one timeline.
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I love the timeline fuckery from the Pandorica/Big Bang, where Eleven pops out of nowhere to set up the future where everything worked out That's the kind of time travel bullshit there needs to be more of (and then once it oversaturates the market, we go back to the basics for a fresh start)
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Big Mean Jerk posted:For whatever reason, I actually kinda love these photos and don’t really get the same kind of dread others seem to get from them. The man is 88 years old and still has that mischievous twinkle in his eye. I get a genuine sense of satisfaction that Tom’s had such a long life and still clearly feels some joy for the role he’s best known for. I love the photos, but I can feel a Tom Baker dropping off the world and I don't like that.
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Whybird posted:I want to see that dude with the forehead hatch from Dalek come back as an antagonist. "Human who knows about the existence of time travel and wants to use that information to advance humanity (but will create a nightmare technodystopia future in the process)" is a cool as hell idea. So, that actually happened in the comics. He comes back, blames the Doctor for his mother's death, kidnaps every companions from 11 and before, and there is a big to do.
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I’m on Runaway Bride. A couple thoughts: 1. They mentioned Narys in The Star Beast. I thought they were going for a Maris-style joke like in Frasier, but I forgot she was actually in The Runaway Bride. 2. Who schedules their wedding on Christmas? Is this a British thing?
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jisforjosh posted:Troughton and Hartnell both dying at 67 really puts McGann being 64, Capaldi being 65, and how much life expectancy and lifestyle have changed and impact longevity. Fun fact that highlights this: Tom Cruise is currently older than William Hartnell when he started playing the Doctor.
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Detective No. 27 posted:I’m on Runaway Bride. A couple thoughts: Doesn't Donna explicitly say she did it because she hates Christmas?
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SirSamVimes posted:Doesn't Donna explicitly say she did it because she hates Christmas? I probably missed that line. I know exactly one person who hates Christmas and it’s because it’s his birthday.
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Detective No. 27 posted:I probably missed that line. I know exactly one person who hates Christmas and it’s because it’s his birthday. It's also my mom's birthday, but she just hates the holiday because her mother and brother died and now she can only think of their absence on Christmas. She used to love the holiday. Anyway, that bit of trauma needlessly shared aside, anyone else here play the Doctor Who TRPG?
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Fair Bear Maiden posted:Now you see, that's what everybody gets wrong. It's all one timeline. It's not even really a line, it's more like a great, big ball of wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey... stuff.
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Fair Bear Maiden posted:Now you see, that's what everybody gets wrong. It's all one timeline. Would you describe it as a big ball of something-something? Detective No. 27 posted:2. Who schedules their wedding on Christmas? Is this a British thing? The Doctor says the exact same thing. Well, minus the British part. The strange thing is that at least two people scheduled their wedding for Christmas since the priest has another wedding party arriving.
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Detective No. 27 posted:I’m on Runaway Bride. A couple thoughts: I let out a hearty guffaw at the continuation of the Narys hate from Runaway Bride in Star Beast.
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Yeah, Nerys turns up at both of Donna's weddings, it's a good gag.
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MikeJF posted:I said before, but the Master ravaging Gallifrey is at least a decent setup to say 'a bunch of Time Lords hopped in TARDISes to get away and are now floating around the universe' The entire thing needs to be a lie The Master told her. It just doesn't work any other way. PriorMarcus posted:But why can't they just travel to anywhere else other than New York and get in the Tardis? It's kind of a nonsense conceit, though I'm aware all of this show is a nonsense conceit. Bicyclops posted:That second thing can be fun. Not that anyone paid attention to the lore behind Myst, but the D'Ni (the people who created Linking Books) turn out to be just some offshoot of a much eviler group of people. Detective No. 27 posted:I probably missed that line. I know exactly one person who hates Christmas and it’s because it’s his birthday. Yes, yes, I know. I'm Pagan. Shush. The joke doesn't work without the conceit.
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LividLiquid posted:My read on this is that they could have if The Doctor didn't have, and read, the end of that book. At that point the events got locked in and he couldn't interfere in his own timeline to save them. Warthur fucked around with this message at 08:44 on Dec 19, 2023 |
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Warthur posted:The problem with this - or possibly the opportunity this creates - is that this opens the door to the Master doing stuff like creating fwke historical accounts of his schemes working and planting them in the Doctor's way, to convince the Doctor they are fixed points in time and thus preventing the Doctor from attempting to interfere in the first place. That'd be super fun!
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Tangential, but this conversation reminded me of Missy's,"Oh.... how did SHE get in there!?!" reaction to Clara being inside the Dalek shell 
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Mail the doctor a letter saying your birthday is a fixed point in time and he has to swing by to close the paradox loop.
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Jerusalem posted:Tangential, but this conversation reminded me of Missy's,"Oh.... how did SHE get in there!?!" reaction to Clara being inside the Dalek shell Missy in that episode is probably my favorite Michelle Gomez performance. Her dancing to the Daleks shouting exterminate? Chefs kiss.
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LividLiquid posted:The big problem with this is that it maintains everything wrong with undoing the resolution to Day of the Doctor and leaves the Master as the irredeemable monster who slaughtered every child on Gallifrey. I guess if you really wanted to you could retcon it to being just the citadel he destroyed? I always figured that Gallifrey was inhabited by Gallifreyans, and the Citadel was the capital and held most of the Time Lords, the ruling class.
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Detective No. 27 posted:I probably missed that line. I know exactly one person who hates Christmas and it’s because it’s his birthday. yeah, because you only get one set of presents
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PriorMarcus posted:I always figured that Gallifrey was inhabited by Gallifreyans, and the Citadel was the capital and held most of the Time Lords, the ruling class. Yeah, I think this is how it works. If you live in the Citadel you're a tinelord and have the genetic priveleges that come with that title, in addition to shelter, education, etc. If you live outside the Citadel then you're a nomad without benefits, a defector like the Doctor, or part of an isolationist religious cult. I guess particularly prominent Gallifreyians also have palatial estates that exist outside the Citadel, but that's it.
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Open Source Idiom posted:Yeah, I think this is how it works. If you live in the Citadel you're a tinelord and have the genetic priveleges that come with that title, in addition to shelter, education, etc. If you live outside the Citadel then you're a nomad without benefits, a defector like the Doctor, or part of an isolationist religious cult. I think there's other cities on Gallifrey, like Arcadia, but they seem to be identical to our cities, a mix of the poor and the none Time Lord high class.
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I've not re watched any new who, so this question is resulting from my poor memory. Why does the Doctor in the recent specials refer to Donna as "his best friend ever". They only had one season together
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