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16-bit Butt-Head posted:literally all of them but mick foley are republicans mannerup fucked around with this message at 05:12 on Dec 17, 2023 |
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I don't think CM Punk is a chud.
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Dec 17, 2023 04:56
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John Yossarian posted:I don't think CM Punk is a chud. CM Punk is, however, a dumb rear end in a top hat
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Dec 17, 2023 04:56
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Paul Revere 3000 posted:Mick Foley and I think Batista are not chuds. It's safe to assume every other pro wrestler is a chud until confirmed otherwise. Batista's mom is a lesbian so he's super pro LGBTQ and generally just a cool guy.
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Dec 17, 2023 04:57
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mannerup posted:isn't Kevin Nash a centrist Democrat or some flavor of that type? kevin nash is a democrat 16-bit Butt-Head fucked around with this message at 05:01 on Dec 17, 2023 |
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Dec 17, 2023 04:58
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i dont consider batista in the same category as mick foley for one thing batista hasnt been dropped on his head as much
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Dec 17, 2023 04:59
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imo the thing that is telling about batista and nash is that both got into wrestling for the money and not out of any love for the business so they can be considered smart wrestlers especially nash who went out of his way to wrestle as little as possible while getting as much money as possible
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Dec 17, 2023 05:00
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jessa venture is also very leftist and tried to start a wrestlers union after joining the screen actors guild and realizing unions were pretty good but then hulk hogan screwed him over before he could get the wrestlers union off the ground
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Dec 17, 2023 05:02
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It's come up that old wrestlers literally complain that young wrestlers just work out and play video games in the locker room rather than get in fights for ridiculous reasons
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Dec 17, 2023 05:11
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Ghost Leviathan posted:It's come up that old wrestlers literally complain that young wrestlers just work out and play video games in the locker room rather than get in fights for ridiculous reasons BACK IN MY DAY THE STEINER BROTHERS BEAT THE poo poo OUT OF YOU AND SHOVED A PENCIL IN YOUR rear end in a top hat AND YOU LIKED IT
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Dec 17, 2023 05:12
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John Yossarian posted:It sounds like some wrestlers, like Ric Flair, are still stuck in kayfabe. There's something kinda pathetic about that.
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Dec 17, 2023 05:12
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:imo the thing that is telling about batista and nash is that both got into wrestling for the money and not out of any love for the business so they can be considered smart wrestlers especially nash who went out of his way to wrestle as little as possible while getting as much money as possible
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Dec 17, 2023 05:13
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mannerup posted:I recall reading that about Nash and found it respectable, a guy who knew how much the business gave a poo poo about him so he milked it for what it was worth without giving an ounce extra. If he had just been selfish that would be one thing, his terrible booking and shoving himself and his friend into the main even in WCW helped kill the company
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Dec 17, 2023 05:15
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I also don't like Vince Russo. He sounds like an idiot.
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WoodrowSkillson posted:If he had just been selfish that would be one thing, his terrible booking and shoving himself and his friend into the main even in WCW helped kill the company John Yossarian posted:I also don't like Vince Russo. He sounds like an idiot.
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Dec 17, 2023 05:23
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I also can't wait till Vince McMahon dies and all these stories will come flooding out. Right now I don't think anyone will talk poo poo about him because they're scared of being blacklisted.
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Dec 17, 2023 05:25
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mannerup posted:lmao I don't think I have ever heard a positive story about Russo, its just been people making GBS threads on him or Cornette threatening to murder him and his family The Nitro book about the history of WCW did a really good job of making Russo seem incredibly sympathetic leaving WWF for WCW, but that was about it.
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Dec 17, 2023 05:51
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John Yossarian posted:I also don't like Vince Russo. He sounds like an idiot. you think to yourself russo cant possibly be that stupid then you hear him talk in an interview and you realize he's even stupider than the stories said he was lol
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Dec 17, 2023 06:16
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:jessa venture is also very leftist and tried to start a wrestlers union after joining the screen actors guild and realizing unions were pretty good but then hulk hogan screwed him over before he could get the wrestlers union off the ground https://411mania.com/wrestling/jesse-ventura-on-why-he-gave-up-on-a-wwe-union-hogan-selling-him-out-more/ posted:“Vince is lucky I didn’t go for the Senate because had I’d gone into the Senate, I would have started a senatorial investigation as to why pro wrestlers are called ‘independent contractors’ when they’re not. You work for one company. They order you around, control your whole life. How are you possibly an independent contractor? Except, they don’t have to pay your social security. That’s why. And so Vince is lucky that I never got to the Senate because I would have investigated that because, to me, look at the thousands of dollars it [has] cost all of us wrestlers to have to pay 15% or whatever it is as an independent contractor on our taxes.
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Dec 17, 2023 06:37
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mannerup posted:thanks for pointing this out, didn't realize he was that powerful backstage during his tenure of WCW (and was one of the elements that brought it down). was it Russo who got tna kicked off tv temporarily? like the network had a clause in the contract that if Russo was found to be working there the contract would over, and then he accidentally went out an email from a tna account or something?
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AlmightyBob posted:was it Russo who got tna kicked off tv temporarily? like the network had a clause in the contract that if Russo was found to be working there the contract would over, and then he accidentally went out an email from a tna account or something? it was and the company was TNA lol
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Dec 17, 2023 08:04
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it wasnt a tna account either russo himself accidentally emailed a wrestling journalist notes he wrote for tna's announcers who reported it and spike tv found out and kicked TNA off the network who had already told TNA to not hire Russo again because he was brand poison
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Dec 17, 2023 08:07
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:it wasnt a tna account either russo himself accidentally emailed a wrestling journalist notes he wrote for tna's announcers who reported it and spike tv found out and kicked TNA off the network who had already told TNA to not hire Russo again because he was brand poison lol wrestling promoters are just as smart as the C-suite of contract drug manufacturing plants
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Dec 17, 2023 08:11
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dixie carter may very well be the dumbest person to have ever been in charge of a wrestling promotion which is no small feat because there are a lot of stupid people involved in wrestling
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Dec 17, 2023 08:12
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she almost sold TNA to a pair of neo nazis lol
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:she almost sold TNA to a pair of neo nazis lol Ah yes, the Harris twins. I completely forgot they were involved for a bit. There's a story about them in ECW showing off their neo nazi tattoos to the owner Paul Heyman, who is Jewish and his mother was a holocaust survivor.
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:dixie carter may very well be the dumbest person to have ever been in charge of a wrestling promotion which is no small feat because there are a lot of stupid people involved in wrestling A trailblazer in the field, she's one in a million
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Dec 17, 2023 08:53
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mannerup posted:thanks for pointing this out, didn't realize he was that powerful backstage during his tenure of WCW (and was one of the elements that brought it down). I find it hard to really blame Nash for all of that because he must have noticed that he was given the keys to an insane asylum that was on fire. There were very few ways to right that ship and even fewer people willing to cooperate on them; Kevin Nash was basically standing in front of a huge bonfire with a cup of water and had the choice between trying to put out the fire and having a drink while staying warm.
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:dixie carter may very well be the dumbest person to have ever been in charge of a wrestling promotion which is no small feat because there are a lot of stupid people involved in wrestling Remember that time before Hogan came in when she had a meeting with the whole roster where she told them they all better listen to her and follow her orders or else they'd be gone? And remember how TNA thought it would be a good idea to show video of this meeting on their own show? Well, at least Impact learned after many years and actually deleted the video from Youtube, but the internet never forgets: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-90oQncIL6M And then the next time she was in an angle it was because Hogan and Bischoff stole the company from her in storyline and Sting was doing everything to get the company back to Dixie, even though for once in TNA's long miserable existance, things were actually somewhat improving.
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Grendels Dad posted:I find it hard to really blame Nash for all of that because he must have noticed that he was given the keys to an insane asylum that was on fire. There were very few ways to right that ship and even fewer people willing to cooperate on them; Kevin Nash was basically standing in front of a huge bonfire with a cup of water and had the choice between trying to put out the fire and having a drink while staying warm. yes and no. He was a booker during some of the highest highs in terms of ticket sales and ppv buys. He did not only come to influence in 2000 or whatever when things were already declining rapidly. As a high profile example, Nash and his friends are why all of the "vanilla midgets" - Chris Jericho, Dean Malenko, Perry Saturn, Eddie Guerrero, he who shall not be named, etc all moved from WCW to WWF. All them at some point were very popular, and 3 of them became world champions. Nash was in close with Hogan and they subsequently had the ear of Bischoff. There is a reason of all people to end Goldberg's streak, it was Nash. I do not blame him for looking out for #1 in a business that does that all the time, but he took it to new levels and actively drove guys out of the company that could have indeed helped right the ship, all while protecting Hogan and his other friends from any consequences. Edit: btw the book The Rise and Fall of WCW is a great read. it is hilarious how incompetently the company was run nearly for its entire existence, with a 5 year span of luck and accidental good decisions giving it a moment in the sun. WoodrowSkillson fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Dec 18, 2023 |
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Is this real? They actually put this on TV? That's insane
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WoodrowSkillson posted:Edit: btw the book The Rise and Fall of WCW is a great read. it is hilarious how incompetently the company was run nearly for its entire existence, with a 5 year span of luck and accidental good decisions giving it a moment in the sun. Is this the one? https://www.amazon.ca/NITRO-Incredible-Inevitable-Collapse-Turners/dp/0692139176
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Llyr posted:Is this real? They actually put this on TV? The prevailing theory for why TNA kept having money pumped into it is that Dixie's father viewed it as a toy to keep his idiot daughter occupied and away from his fossil fuel business.
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wesleywillis posted:Is this the one? I misspoke https://www.amazon.com/Death-WCW-R-D-Reynolds/dp/1770411763
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Llyr posted:Is this real? They actually put this on TV? For as bad as Vince is (and he's really bad), he at least knows that if he's going to air a speech like that he should call himself "Mr McMahon" and do it as a heel promo.
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Llyr posted:Is this real? They actually put this on TV? its real lol
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Dec 19, 2023 19:05
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dixie carter hired all of the people on the cover of The Death of WCW at the same time and they did the same thing they did to WCW only faster and stupider
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Regrettable posted:Ah yes, the Harris twins. I completely forgot they were involved for a bit. There's a story about them in ECW showing off their neo nazi tattoos to the owner Paul Heyman, who is Jewish and his mother was a holocaust survivor.  holy poo poo
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Seth Pecksniff posted:
if it helps at all, iirc it cost the Harrises their jobs on the spot, and their CVs have been increasingly shabby and barren ever since Raven has a story about being shown those same tats and encouraging them to go show Heyman their new body art 
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:dixie carter hired all of the people on the cover of The Death of WCW at the same time and they did the same thing they did to WCW only faster and stupider And yet TNA still exists and puts on normal TV programs. I don’t even think their talent worry if checks are going to clear any more.
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