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Blackula Vs. Tarantula posted:But why? Why do they have to do this? It just seems like they are all choosing to Kids do what other kids do
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Blackula Vs. Tarantula posted:But why? Why do they have to do this? It just seems like they are all choosing to How would we ever hear about the ones who don't?
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Air Skwirl posted:It's just compared to his other accomplishments in high school, that one is lacking. Like, I would expect most people who get into Cornell have higher scores. I scored a 1470 on the SATs, did not get into Cornell, mostly because I never applied to Cornell, but I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have gotten in even if I had, I didn't get in to Washington State University. A 1460 is like top 4%, and depending on year is solid 96 to 98th percentile score. It may not be a brag number to you but it's more than good enough.
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Panfilo posted:https://twitter.com/LibertyCappy/status/1736755698355060873?t=HGh-Yk8yo50DJ9ZXWs5GYw&s=19 The point being “North Koreans can enjoy the night sky?”
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iwentdoodie posted:A 1460 is like top 4%, and depending on year is solid 96 to 98th percentile score. It may not be a brag number to you but it's more than good enough. I think a lot of people ragging on the SAT are assuming it’s out of 2400 and not 1600 but I could be wrong.
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Panfilo posted:https://twitter.com/LibertyCappy/status/1736755698355060873?t=HGh-Yk8yo50DJ9ZXWs5GYw&s=19 Wow it's crazy that that's all that happened. North Korea became communist and then everyone left them to themselves for 70 years.
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tokin opposition posted:those are proto-boomers
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I thought the stupid part wasn't a kid whining in a video that they didn't get into their dream school because the standards are so high and their extracurriculars weren't good enough, it was that the other poster shared it as "kid upset that they didn't get into their dream school because they're white and the slot was taken by a POC for diversity" and their excuse for smearing this kid and lying was "it was a satire but maybe watch your words more carefully next time."
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Panfilo posted:https://twitter.com/LibertyCappy/status/1736755698355060873?t=HGh-Yk8yo50DJ9ZXWs5GYw&s=19 I mean if you want to just admit that capitalism is the handmaiden of fascism that's cool with me
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Baron von Eevl posted:I thought the stupid part wasn't a kid whining in a video that they didn't get into their dream school because the standards are so high and their extracurriculars weren't good enough, it was that the other poster shared it as "kid upset that they didn't get into their dream school because they're white and the slot was taken by a POC for diversity" and their excuse for smearing this kid and lying was "it was a satire but maybe watch your words more carefully next time." "You know, the words we put in your mouth. Watch those."
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Fister Roboto posted:Wow it's crazy that that's all that happened. North Korea became communist and then everyone left them to themselves for 70 years. Also South Korea was essentially a military dictatorship until the late 80s. It was definitely one until the early 60s.
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Also wasn't NK the economic powerhouse of the two until like the late 60s?
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Blackula Vs. Tarantula posted:But why? Why do they have to do this? It just seems like they are all choosing to Because that is what is modelled as success and being cool in the media they consume. Were you never a teenager?
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Data Graham posted:Also wasn't NK the economic powerhouse of the two until like the late 60s? I wouldn't call either of them a powerhouse at the time but NK had a higher standard of living at least into the '70s.
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Blackula Vs. Tarantula posted:But why? Why do they have to do this? It just seems like they are all choosing to They don’t have to. There are plenty of kids who don’t but you don’t hear about them or see them. (I know, I teach teenagers.) Don’t get me wrong, it’s hard to be a teenager in the 2020s- it has always been hard to be a teenager- but there are plenty of different ways to be a kid, even today.
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The other thing is a lot of kids are rightfully credulous of the “everybody must go to a university or you’ll never have a good job!” Mantra that many of us grew up on. Tons of kids are wisening up because their parents are now young enough to be saddled with five or six figure debt from college and making the same money as people who got certifications or just started work at 18 or whatever. My dad was a welder and my mom dropped out of college after a year and they told me from day 1 “you’re going to college because that’s what you need to do” and even with a Master’s I probably have roughly a similar quality of life as they did at my age. And I got lucky with my career, honestly.
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I scored a single point higher than my friend on our GEDs 😎
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Leon Sumbitches posted:There's a sub forum for spam? 
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Panfilo posted:https://twitter.com/LibertyCappy/status/1736755698355060873?t=HGh-Yk8yo50DJ9ZXWs5GYw&s=19 I mean everyone in both countries is miserable just for different reasons.
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Baron von Eevl posted:I thought the stupid part wasn't a kid whining in a video that they didn't get into their dream school because the standards are so high and their extracurriculars weren't good enough, it was that the other poster shared it as "kid upset that they didn't get into their dream school because they're white and the slot was taken by a POC for diversity" and their excuse for smearing this kid and lying was "it was a satire but maybe watch your words more carefully next time." Standards are absurdly high in a lot of places these days, though. My cousin had an over 4.0 GPA, was a state level musician, multiple AP classes, a ton of extracurriculars including team sports, and she was lucky as gently caress to get into UGA. A state school. In 2016. I can't even imagine what it's like now
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Yorkshire Pudding posted:saddled with five or six figure debt from college and making the same money as people who got certifications or just started work at 18 or whatever It makes me quite sad that people think a university education is only as valuable as the job it gets you. Sometimes it’s just cool to really know a lot about a subject. University should be free anyway, because an educated populous is good for society, but it definitely shouldn’t only be viewed as a way to get a high paying job.
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Scientastic posted:It makes me quite sad that people think a university education is only as valuable as the job it gets you. Sometimes it’s just cool to really know a lot about a subject. The problem os that since it is so ruinously expensive, you kinda have to choose something that will eventually makenyou money. If it were free I imagine a lot of people would be taking courses without planning to rake a job in that field
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Improbable Lobster posted:The problem os that since it is so ruinously expensive, you kinda have to choose something that will eventually makenyou money. If it were free I imagine a lot of people would be taking courses without planning to rake a job in that field Also the fact that it's pressured on you at an early age means most kids are gonna make a wrong decision in regards to what to spend time and money on.
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Riot Carol Danvers posted:Standards are absurdly high in a lot of places these days, though. My cousin had an over 4.0 GPA, was a state level musician, multiple AP classes, a ton of extracurriculars including team sports, and she was lucky as gently caress to get into UGA. A state school. In 2016. Unless you're specifically trying for an ivy league, or a specific 4 year program that doesn't accept transfers, a decent community college is a much better path to getting into a competitive school. Not every state has a good community college system unfortunately, but those that do will often also have transfer programs where fufilling the program guarantees access to the statr university system. Of course an HS guidance counselor will often steer kids away from that path because it doesn't pad their numbers like bragging about how many of their students go straight to a prestigious university. I was accepted at UC campuses on transfer I had no hope of getting into fresh out of HS, and I had a GPA that was barely 3.0 when I transfered.
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Improbable Lobster posted:The problem os that since it is so ruinously expensive, you kinda have to choose something that will eventually makenyou money. If it were free I imagine a lot of people would be taking courses without planning to rake a job in that field I just want to interject that America isn't everywhere. I did my undergraduate degree for free in Ireland back in the 90s, and my masters in classics cost about 2,000 euro. America is a ridiculously broken country, which makes acquiring a higher education a thing which creates a literal lifelong debt. This is not normal, this is not acceptable. Getting a degree does not actually cost half a million dollars, that is laughably stupid.
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Flesh Forge posted:There is just so much going on here I got the No Pussy Blues
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Pookah posted:I just want to interject that America isn't everywhere. I'm Canadian
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Yorkshire Pudding posted:The other thing is a lot of kids are rightfully credulous of the “everybody must go to a university or you’ll never have a good job!” Mantra that many of us grew up on. Tons of kids are wisening up because their parents are now young enough to be saddled with five or six figure debt from college and making the same money as people who got certifications or just started work at 18 or whatever. The thing that gets glossed over with a lot of “learn a trade” advice is that those often have their own long term costs, just in terms of physical health instead of money. Especially in construction. I did construction safety for a while and a lot of the longtimers bodies were just destroyed by the demands of their jobs after a while.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:The thing that gets glossed over with a lot of “learn a trade” advice is that those often have their own long term costs, just in terms of physical health instead of money. Especially in construction. I did construction safety for a while and a lot of the longtimers bodies were just destroyed by the demands of their jobs after a while. Also most longterm trades that pay well require training and certification that employers won't provide or if you're apprenticing are often incredibly competitive and have limited spots. Heck most student loan debt in the US is from people getting occupational training from private career colleges not liberal arts phds.
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It's funny (not ha-ha funny) that we've frogboiled ourselves from "get a college degree to get a head start on a career, you don't need one to survive or raise a family but it will guarantee you respect and prestigious employability right out the gate" to "get used to the idea of spending hundreds of $K on credit just to get to running-in-place parity with everyone else in your age group; if you can't afford it or aren't on board with taking on that debt and living in grinding poverty for decades to pay it off, make your peace with the regular kind of grinding poverty, pleb" in this, the country that has solved all of humanity's ancient problems through FREEDOM
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Coolness Averted posted:Unless you're specifically trying for an ivy league, or a specific 4 year program that doesn't accept transfers, a decent community college is a much better path to getting into a competitive school. A bachelor's program at a loving state school like UGA should not require Harvard level entry requirements. It's incredibly loving broken and UGA is yet another example of the whole "fake prestige" because the people in charge make hundreds of millions of dollars. UGA was a mid range safety school for people my age.
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Riot Carol Danvers posted:A bachelor's program at a loving state school like UGA should not require Harvard level entry requirements. It's incredibly loving broken and UGA is yet another example of the whole "fake prestige" because the people in charge make hundreds of millions of dollars. UGA was a mid range safety school for people my age.
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Riot Carol Danvers posted:A bachelor's program at a loving state school like UGA should not require Harvard level entry requirements. It's incredibly loving broken and UGA is yet another example of the whole "fake prestige" because the people in charge make hundreds of millions of dollars. UGA was a mid range safety school for people my age. What they're saying though is that transfer programs are to blame, and they're correct from what I've seen. A 2x2 transfer program means you get to increase your graduation rate for half the population increase you'd get from a traditional student, as well as offloading the first 2 years of a potential student's education (in which they are most likely to fail) onto a school where those numbers do not matter at all. On top of that, you can artificially inflate your intake standards which will make dumb people think you're a good school. UGA is still accepting kids with GEDs and a 2.1 GPA, they just "wash" them through one of a dozen feeder colleges first. Arsenic Lupin posted:The UC system is admitting lots of out-of-state and foreign students because they pay higher fees. This of course squeezes out California-raised students, whom the system is supposed to be for. Every institution preferentially accepts out of state students for exactly this reason
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Pookah posted:I just want to interject that America isn't everywhere. But how else would they attract top talent for administration???
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All the safety schools got a bump in credibility, and can therefore charge higher prices, once the education landscape started to fill up with "University of Cornholeville - Online" type places.
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poo poo Fuckasaurus posted:What they're saying though is that transfer programs are to blame, and they're correct from what I've seen. A 2x2 transfer program means you get to increase your graduation rate for half the population increase you'd get from a traditional student, as well as offloading the first 2 years of a potential student's education (in which they are most likely to fail) onto a school where those numbers do not matter at all. On top of that, you can artificially inflate your intake standards which will make dumb people think you're a good school. Ah, I see. I misunderstood. That's incredibly garbage and doesn't surprise me at all.
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