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Holy poo poo, Bjorn Nyland and his buddy are absolutely trashing on the new Model S build quality. So much water intrusion that the doors and windows don't work. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg06vzVxKRw
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mysteryberto posted:Sure I look very briefly at the temperature display after cranking my knob How am I the first person to quote this
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Elviscat posted:The car is flawless if you're the most insanely boring person in the entire world and never, ever interact with the non-driving-related features, I agree. What do you do in your car other than drive it?
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The Slack Lagoon posted:What do you do in your car other than drive it? Work, sex, sleep, eat, cook, read, watch movies, play video games
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The Slack Lagoon posted:What do you do in your car other than drive it? Cry, mostly.
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The Slack Lagoon posted:What do you do in your car other than drive it? Our next door neighbor is very obviously suffering from some sort of mental illness including, but not limited to, hoarding. She goes at gets fast food and sits in the driveway of her house and eats. Literally feet from her house, she sits and eats in her car, very slowly. It's baffling.
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Nfcknblvbl posted:Holy poo poo, Bjorn Nyland and his buddy are absolutely trashing on the new Model S build quality. So much water intrusion that the doors and windows don't work. Meanwhile Elon's talking about selling upgraded door seals on the cybertruk so it can be a boat. Does insurance cover deliberately driving your car into a lake?
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Dec 19, 2023 18:25
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The Slack Lagoon posted:What do you do in your car other than drive it? Sit around and wait for dance practice to end. One time I stayed all day in the parking lot of the library waiting for my wife to get out of school. We had to leave the VRBO at 11am and classes ended at 5pm, so me and the dog just hung out in the car writing code. Well, the dog slept.
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morothar posted:In contrast, and while y’all are getting your knickers in a twist here: our ID4’s cabin is warm, and the window has been defrosted when I get in a 6:50 in the morning. The heated seats and steering wheel are on as well, while my phone connects through CarPlay, and continues to play the podcast I was listening to while brushing my teeth and getting dressed. Yeah, that's how I feel about the Model 3's touch screen. I like the UI for setting things up while I'm stationary, and then I don't mess with it while I'm driving. I think turn signals as buttons would drive me nuts, though.
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BAD AT STUFF posted:I think turn signals as buttons would drive me nuts, though. I thought this at first, and then I remembered life on the motorcycle, and that was okay, so whatever.
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cruft posted:Sit around and wait for dance practice to end. I sit in my car for over an hour with A/C blasting writing code while I wait for my daughter to get off school. Beats the stop-and-go driving in traffic I'd have to do if I were to show up later.
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What a clusterfuck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr3mFzh0KSk Its worth a watch.
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Kia in Canada is holding back cars from dealerships apparently because they think if their sales numbers are too strong this year the head office will cut their ad budget across the country next year https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kia-canada-car-sales-1.7063216 quote:New Kia vehicles that have arrived from overseas are sitting on a storage lot in Wolverton, Ont., purposely locked up even though customers have been waiting months and months — some well over a year — to get their vehicles.
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Xiahou Dun posted:What about a huge knifeswitch like in a Frankenstein movie. Or little molly-guarded toggles like on a jet fighter. Mini knew the way to righteousness, but lost their way:  Normal Barbarian posted:Cry, mostly. About sums it up for me.
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bird with big dick posted:Work, sex, sleep, eat, cook, read, watch movies, play video games All of these, because I drive a campervan.
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Squibbles posted:Kia in Canada is holding back cars from dealerships apparently because they think if their sales numbers are too strong this year the head office will cut their ad budget across the country next year Yeah this kind of bullshit is really driving the nail in my desire to potentially get an EV9. I was already annoyed with the dealership service dept fuckups and now this, cool cool cool. They're trying for the whole toyota/honda approach of taking customers for granted speedrun without a couple decades of being actually good
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I see it's come up a little bit here, but I stumbled on a "used" 2022 Bolt EUV at a dealership nearby that has less than 10k miles for about $13k less than the equivalent new EUV would be. It says it has a branded title, and also says that it was an OEM buybackquote:***OEM BUYBACK***Original Battery has been inspected and fully compliant to all State and Federal Laws Is this just something to stay away from at all costs, or this just like a weird gap in lemon laws and repair lead times that caused a bunch of these perfectly fine vehicles to end up dumped on the secondary market?
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FISHMANPET posted:I see it's come up a little bit here, but I stumbled on a "used" 2022 Bolt EUV at a dealership nearby that has less than 10k miles for about $13k less than the equivalent new EUV would be. It says it has a branded title, and also says that it was an OEM buyback Its a strong "Buyer Beware" situation at a minimum. The car might be fine or it might be an unrepairable mess. Who knows.
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It means it was lemon lawed. There are a number of these floating around due to the long lead times on the battery recall, but you would have to do your homework on whether this specific one was the same. Also note that 2022 is too new for the used vehicle tax credit unless you wait 2 weeks.
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gwrtheyrn posted:It means it was lemon lawed. There are a number of these floating around due to the long lead times on the battery recall, but you would have to do your homework on whether this specific one was the same. Also note that 2022 is too new for the used vehicle tax credit unless you wait 2 weeks. They stopped doing the battery recall because it was expensive. Now you get a software kludge that reduces your effective range.
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slidebite posted:What a clusterfuck
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cruft posted:They stopped doing the battery recall because it was expensive. Now you get a software kludge that reduces your effective range. Well there you go, apparently applies to MY20-22. Statement about tax stuff still applies
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Fuckit, it's this: https://mosaicchevrolet.com/sale/used-chevrolet-bolt-euv-premier-zumbrota-mn/2022-chevrolet-bolt-euv-premier-1g1fz6s00n4108370 What else would I want to investigate with that? According to the linked Experian title report, the manufacturer buyback is the only "issue" with the car. Does it lose the original GM warranty because its used?
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Three Olives posted:BMW iDrive preset buttons. They are not radio presets, I mean, they can be, or they can be presets for anything in the iDrive system, navigation destination, radio station, tire pressure, anything you could select in iDrive could be set to be accessed directly with a physical button. New Peugeot 308, 408 and 3008 have programmable ”iToggle” touchgreen ”buttons” where user can set functions he would like access quickly. 
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Vegetable posted:I skipped through this, but couldn’t really figure out what the issue was. Sounds like his car unexpectedly needed a new battery, his dealership tried to overcharge him and it blew up his insurance premiums? And Hyundai corporate then stepped in, hoping to make things right but not having committed to anything? Yeah it was a bit of a mess, the format of them sitting in a car talking to the windscreen also did them no favours. The guy is local and used to have a car show on one of the channels here but I guess that got axed and he’s gone freelance.
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Vegetable posted:I skipped through this, but couldn’t really figure out what the issue was. Sounds like his car unexpectedly needed a new battery, his dealership tried to overcharge him and it blew up his insurance premiums? And Hyundai corporate then stepped in, hoping to make things right but not having committed to anything? Collision repair place makes estimate, takes photos, says battery protector looks basically fine so they have no idea with only slight scratches. No impact damage visible. Insurer writes car off due to cost to repair and owner is now without a car, loses clean driving record. Owner reaches out to Hyundai too late, car is already written off and gone. Basically, sounds like: Was the battery even actually damaged? Why is a battery worth more than the entire new car? (This is likely due to mandatory public insurance IMHO, parts go universally full pop due to single payer) IMHO the owner really needed to do some diligence on his part so isn't completely blameless, but between him being kinda clueless, a dealer likely taking advantage of the situation and the insurer not doing more than the bare minimum required, it was just a cluster all around. If there is a silver lining it sounds like corporate is looking to get involved on all EV battery packs going forward, but sheesh. priznat posted:Yeah it was a bit of a mess, the format of them sitting in a car talking to the windscreen also did them no favours. The guy is local and used to have a car show on one of the channels here but I guess that got axed and he’s gone freelance. But yeah, the format is awkward and clunky. Trying so hard to be casual it seems forced. slidebite fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Dec 19, 2023 |
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slidebite posted:Oh poo poo, yeah, now that you mention it didn't he do that driving show with.... Dagmar Midcap? I remember her, no him so much. I don't recall that one, but he would always have little useless driving tips instead of ads on global tv iirc.. "Driving down the road? don't forget to have your hands at 10 and 2!" or some goofy poo poo lol
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Elviscat posted:It really ruins the best aspect of electric cars, which is plugging them in overnight to charge, fast charging them before doing them off is stupid. Yes, the rental companies really should build in-house charging infrastructure, it could make the return process even more convenient than it has been. A quartet of parking spots could be centered on a charger with 1 DCFC and 4 L2 outlets. But as long as the infrastructure is lacking that is understandably. It makes sense a rental company will bill you if their staff has to drive out to fill it up. If instead they have to drive out and charge for half an hour the system won't work.
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Saukkis posted:It makes sense a rental company will bill you if their staff has to drive out to fill it up. If instead they have to drive out and charge for half an hour the system won't work. You're not wrong, but I feel like you failed to consider how eager companies would be to pay fewer employees.
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Having been through the rental car return line at Phoenix more times than I care to count, I get why they charge rates that high, and I don't think "put chargers at the location" is a workable solution at scale. If you get 100 returns an hour, let's assume 20 are EVs and 5 aren't fully charged, you either install and maintain 5 private DCFC stalls to recharge them in time or you have a few dozen EVs sitting idle overnight to slow-charge.
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Cenodoxus posted:Having been through the rental car return line at Phoenix more times than I care to count, I get why they charge rates that high, and I don't think "put chargers at the location" is a workable solution at scale. If you get 100 returns an hour, let's assume 20 are EVs and 5 aren't fully charged, you either install and maintain 5 private DCFC stalls to recharge them in time or you have a few dozen EVs sitting idle overnight to slow-charge. At that scale it probably makes sense to have several DCFC stalls and they may even be able to operate at profit, but it's more difficult question for smaller facilities. Of course there is the option of giving a small discount if someone is willing to rent an EV at 20% charge and give them the coordinates to the nearest fast charger.
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Saukkis posted:Yes, the rental companies really should build in-house charging infrastructure, it could make the return process even more convenient than it has been. A quartet of parking spots could be centered on a charger with 1 DCFC and 4 L2 outlets. All the EV rental areas at airports that I've seen have L2 chargers, they're just doing the normal money grubbing rental company bullshit.
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DoLittle posted:New Peugeot 308, 408 and 3008 have programmable ”iToggle” touchgreen ”buttons” where user can set functions he would like access quickly. Which is a crying shame compared to the old 208/2008/3008 piano keys which made a very satisfying clunk every time you used them 
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Nextgen CarPlay integration is still on apple's website, saying vehicle announcements coming in late 2023. I'll buy something new around next Summer and was going to possibly weigh this in my decision because it sounds cool to have my navigation info right behind the wheel and I'm fine without having a lot of physical controls, but it's looking less and less likely that we'll hear anything by the end of the year. https://www.apple.com/ios/carplay/ Basically Apple is dependent on Honda or Mercedes or someone to make this announcement themselves, but no one announces new model now, since their 2024 models have already rolled out and that's what they want people to buy.
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Have any Tesla owners here gotten the holiday update with this "High Fidelity Park Assist" that's been making headlines? If so, can anyone weigh in on whether it's accurate enough to be a worthy replacement for ultrasonic sensors?slidebite posted:Basically, sounds like: Any competently designed EV will have some protective plating between the battery and the road, precisely so that road debris doesn't cause the whole thing to go up in flames. For there to be any damage to the battery, that would have to have either been punctured or horribly dented. As to be whether they're being overly cautious or just using that as an excuse to pad the bill, it's hard to say - for a dealership with limited experience with EVs, both are roughly equally plausible. For what it's worth: Some years ago, I remember seeing an article about a Tesla owner who received an obscene repair bill for a minor fender-bender. The itemized bill included several hours of labor to disconnect the main battery cables, despite the fact that the repair in question shouldn't have required anyone to put their hands anywhere near any high-voltage circuits.
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Cockmaster posted:Have any Tesla owners here gotten the holiday update with this "High Fidelity Park Assist" that's been making headlines? If so, can anyone weigh in on whether it's accurate enough to be a worthy replacement for ultrasonic sensors? https://twitter.com/EVBaymax/status/1735817849409868098 What if we did the 360 camera that other cars have but made it really lovely using a bunch of "technology"?
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I just got the update but I'm not going to hop into my car just to try it out. I'll report on it tomorrow morning.
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Saukkis posted:Yes, the rental companies really should build in-house charging infrastructure, it could make the return process even more convenient than it has been. A quartet of parking spots could be centered on a charger with 1 DCFC and 4 L2 outlets. They already have L2 infrastructure but they gonna charge you as though they don't
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Squibbles posted:Kia in Canada is holding back cars from dealerships apparently because they think if their sales numbers are too strong this year the head office will cut their ad budget across the country next year god i love the efficiency of capitalism
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It seems like pure hubris to think this story would not get out. People who are waiting on vehicles with deposits down should be PISSED.
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