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Halloween Jack posted:What texts are you reading that say it's good to kill 15,000,000 people? I didn't even know Henry Kissinger wrote any comics! Rorschach doesn't kill 15,000,000 people. Rorschach does not want to kill 15,000,000 people. Rorschach breaks down in tears about while talking about how he might as well be one more corpse in the foundation of Veidt's new "utopia". What are either you or Fangz even talking about?
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At first, I thought I misunderstood you, because "That take" seemed to refer to the idea that Veidt was right. Then I realized that I typed "Rorschach was right" and not "Ozymandias was right" in the first place. Sorry!
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Lmao all good
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Man, apropos of Kissinger being brought up, it's good to reminded everyone that he is dead. Happy holidays!
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Dec 19, 2023 20:29
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I just feel bad about it. I came up with some really good cocktails on the spur of the moment with Scalia and McCain died, but for Kissinger I was really tired and still getting over COVID so I just popped the Glenmorangie.
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Halloween Jack posted:I just feel bad about it. I came up with some really good cocktails on the spur of the moment with Scalia and McCain died, but for Kissinger I was really tired and still getting over COVID so I just popped the Glenmorangie. Which reminds me I have some lavagulin I could pop for a delayed celebration...
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Halloween Jack posted:At first, I thought I misunderstood you, because "That take" seemed to refer to the idea that Veidt was right. Then I realized that I typed "Rorschach was right" and not "Ozymandias was right" in the first place. Sorry! What machine are you on that didn't auto-correct to "Magneto was right" ?
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Mr. Sinister certainly isn't right.
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Fangz posted:The other way round. Rorschach wants nuclear Armageddon to be back on the table. Even Manhattan refuses to accept the atrocity that would ensue if Rorschach would be allowed to live. That's why he kills him.  Flying Zamboni posted:You're right I forgot about this scene: 
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Flying Zamboni posted:You're right I forgot about this scene:
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I loving love that his dilz is the sun.
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Just a tweak but it's actually significant that Rorschach goes to investigate the killing of the Comedian not just because it's a murder but because it's the murder of a superhero, notable in itself, who despite his age was clearly fighting back and lost against a superior opponent- and his first thought, reinforced by Dr Manhattan's breakdown later, is someone is going around targeting superheroes- and he's also a superhero. (Pretty much the last active one, at that) It's pretty rational self-interest from that perspective. He also happens to have the bad luck to be completely wrong in this assumption, and to tell it to the actual killer, who goes on to orchestrate more faked evidence to throw him further off the trail.
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Flying Zamboni posted:You're right I forgot about this scene: lol
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Oh yeah that is a good point, thank you for pointing that out
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Ghost Leviathan posted:He also happens to have the bad luck to be completely wrong in this assumption, and to tell it to the actual killer, who goes on to orchestrate more faked evidence to throw him further off the trail.
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I think it's worth pondering how much of Ozy's actions come from a "rational" assessment of the cold war and trying to avoid Armageddon and how much is him trying to soothe his bruised ego after the Comedians "smartest man on the cinder" crack. Ozy did a lot through proxies and staff, but for some reason beating Comedian to death with his bare hands was the optimal strategy to close that leak. Rorschach has massive personal problems but Ozy's tend to get overlooked. Probably due to being rich and respected not a smelly hobo.
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Fangz posted:The other way round. Rorschach wants nuclear Armageddon to be back on the table. Even Manhattan refuses to accept the atrocity that would ensue if Rorschach would be allowed to live. That's why he kills him. For as weird as this take is, I like how it speculates on how Doctor Manhattan might view Rorschach. I think the assessment is wrong because Rorschach is as complex and the circumstances of his origin and existence are as inexplicable as Laurie's, so Manhattan would totally get off on that. But I like the thought that Rorschach's rigidness affects Manhattan's view of him and wish the comics or movie had gone into that more. From memory, the only other interaction they have is when Rorschach tells him about his mask-killer theory and Manhattan tells him to gently caress off.
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garycoleisgod posted:I think it's worth pondering how much of Ozy's actions come from a "rational" assessment of the cold war and trying to avoid Armageddon and how much is him trying to soothe his bruised ego after the Comedians "smartest man on the cinder" crack.
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I need to reread this comic now that I don't smoke weed twice a day and have nominally better retention
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Halloween Jack posted:I've always assumed that he also wanted revenge for the Comedian beating him the first time they fought (which is not clearly stated but implied, I think). I haven't ever noticed this implication, where's it from?
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well idk about physical confrontations but wasn't the Comedian the one who totally embarrassed young Ozymandias in a flashback by going on a rant about how bullshit they all were?
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Martman posted:well idk about physical confrontations but wasn't the Comedian the one who totally embarrassed young Ozymandias in a flashback by going on a rant about how bullshit they all were? 
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the idea of the world's smartest man getting feinted into the same uppercut again and again is v funny ozy: no you can't just give me the ol' one-two again and again comedian: lol, lmao
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[getting the old razzledazzle eight times consecutively] I am studying his limitations
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Alan Moore's Punch-Out!! (featuring Mr. Comedian) *Pixel art by Dave Gibbons & John Higgins
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well why not posted:[getting the old razzledazzle eight times consecutively] I am studying his limitations Hahaha
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well why not posted:[getting the old razzledazzle eight times consecutively] I am studying his limitations
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I forgot how the Comedian looks like rough trade in that panel. I've got your Hooded Justice right here
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well why not posted:[getting the old razzledazzle eight times consecutively] I am studying his limitations [lying face down in a puddle of my own blood and spit] download complete
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I didn't remember this until someone pointed it out, but Ozy getting his rear end kicked by the Comedian also comes up in the magazine interview with him in a later issue. He kinda/sorta dodges the question. In retrospect, it's also funny to me that Rorschach and Nite Owl could have easily subdued Ozymandias and his mutant tiger if they had brought, like, a couple of submachine guns instead of a stupid laser pen.
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Yeah but Batman doesn’t use guns. But cool laser gadgets are ok.
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Halloween Jack posted:I've always assumed that he also wanted revenge for the Comedian beating him the first time they fought (which is not clearly stated but implied, I think). That was always my assumption.
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Schwarzwald posted:[lying face down in a puddle of my own blood and spit] download complete analysed optimum duelling combat strategy gambit [wait until he’s old and throwing him off a balcony] well why not fucked around with this message at 23:17 on Dec 20, 2023 |
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well why not posted:analysed optimum duelling combat strategy gambit [wait until he’s old and throwing him off a balcony] Dammit Ozy, you've done it again! Time to relax for five hours in my pleasure pyramid.
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smartest man on earth [just goes to a haters apartment to gently caress them up]
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josh04 posted:Dammit Ozy, you've done it again! Time to relax for five hours in my pleasure pyramid. "he may have won in the short term but pride goes before a... fall." 
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Horizon Burning posted:"he may have won in the short term but pride goes before a... fall." "Better write that down."
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Zack’s top 4 letterbox’d list is pretty obvious but it’s still cool to hear ‘em
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I like that he chose apocalypse now: a visual spectacle with various cuts. I still need to watch the ones beyond the theatrical though.
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