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https://twitter.com/FoulTerritoryTV/status/1737204758681657564 Ole glass arm Tommy Shelby has thoughts.
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maffew buildings posted:he must be really stoked that he's on a superteam and he can live at his parents house, wow, quite the off-season If he lives there for a couple of years, he should be able to save up enough to buy an apartment in LA.
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bawfuls posted:He was a piece of the Mookie Betts trade yes So the Red Sox got nothing for Mookie Betts? It's even worse than thought at the time?
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tadashi posted:So the Red Sox got nothing for Mookie Betts? It's even worse than thought at the time? LA got: Betts: self-explanatory Price: Dodgers moved him to the pen after a while where he was actually pretty okay. Red Sox got: Verdugo: Averaged as a ~2ish WAR guy for four years with the Red Sox, not amazing but also not a guy you'd complain too much about having around. Recently dumped to the Yankees. Downs: Had a miserable cup of coffee with the Red Sox before getting dumped to the Nats. Wong: Finally got an extended MLB look this year and put up some miserable batted ball numbers alongside decent defensive metrics. So the Red Sox got four years of an okay-but-not-great OF regular, a failed former top prospect, and a backup catcher for Betts and dumping Price's salary.
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Even if Verdugo had lived up to the loftiest projections of his potential at the time of the trade, the Red Sox still lose that trade
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mcmagic posted:https://twitter.com/Yankees/status/1737193641641218059 And he's an INF, so "just past a diving Jeter" will grace the airwaves yet again
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If the Yankees were really serious about Jeters they would acquire the pitcher in the Mariners system named (Derek) Jeter (Pedro) Martinez.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Even if Verdugo had lived up to the loftiest projections of his potential at the time of the trade, the Red Sox still lose that trade I mean, what was the last trade where a superstar player was moved and the consensus after the fact is that it is the team that moved the superstar for prospects ended up "winning" the trade? Arenado, Goldschmidt, Betts, Diaz, etc etc it's the team that gets the known really good player that always comes out looking better. Even something like the Chapman trade where the Cubs massively overpaid can still be looked at as "yeah Gleyber turned out to be a nice piece but the Cubs got a loving ring out of the deal." Maybe you could make the argument for Soto since SD ended up squandering and then flipping him to somebody else? Generally speaking though no matter how highly they're touted prospects aren't actually worth guys who've established themselves as superstars.
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The team getting prospects basically never wins. The most they can hope for is it being an even trade but even that is pretty rare. Even the Soto trade is probably at best an even deal.
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https://twitter.com/BobKlap/status/1737221542524690887 He's not going to the Yankees.
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Yankees are about to trade for Mookie, clearly.
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They better have a backup plan in place to get a pitcher because they aren't getting Yamamoto.
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:The team getting prospects basically never wins. The most they can hope for is it being an even trade but even that is pretty rare. but yeah for players of Betts caliber it's essentially impossible to get back sufficient prospect value
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Enjoyed seeing Shields on the hall of fame ballot this year.
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Sydin posted:I mean, what was the last trade where a superstar player was moved and the consensus after the fact is that it is the team that moved the superstar for prospects ended up "winning" the trade? Arenado, Goldschmidt, Betts, Diaz, etc etc it's the team that gets the known really good player that always comes out looking better. Even something like the Chapman trade where the Cubs massively overpaid can still be looked at as "yeah Gleyber turned out to be a nice piece but the Cubs got a loving ring out of the deal." Maybe you could make the argument for Soto since SD ended up squandering and then flipping him to somebody else? Generally speaking though no matter how highly they're touted prospects aren't actually worth guys who've established themselves as superstars. Trading Mark Teixeira got the Rangers two WS appearances.
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I remember listening to a Sox game where their radio announcers went through the full five stages of grief in one inning of Shields giving up a load of dingers. Like a 20 minute speedrun from "Nah Shields is a good pitcher and this bad stretch is a blip, he'll right the ship" to "honestly at this point just leave him out there, why not? Game's lost anyway maybe they can figure out something worth fixing while he's getting annihilated."
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bawfuls posted:how soon we forget Tatis for James Shields I'm talking stars. Cause there's lots of prospect for nice players where the team getting prospects wins.
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:Trading Mark Teixeira got the Rangers two WS appearances. Trading Greinke got the Royals two WS appearances and a win.
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live with fruit posted:Trading Greinke got the Royals two WS appearances and a win. the braves don't win in 2021 if they dont trade Pablo Sandoval
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Sydin posted:LA got: Don't forget the Sox decided they didn't want Graterol so he went to the Dodgers instead Sydin posted:I mean, what was the last trade where a superstar player was moved and the consensus after the fact is that it is the team that moved the superstar for prospects ended up "winning" the trade? Arenado, Goldschmidt, Betts, Diaz, etc etc it's the team that gets the known really good player that always comes out looking better. Even something like the Chapman trade where the Cubs massively overpaid can still be looked at as "yeah Gleyber turned out to be a nice piece but the Cubs got a loving ring out of the deal." Maybe you could make the argument for Soto since SD ended up squandering and then flipping him to somebody else? Generally speaking though no matter how highly they're touted prospects aren't actually worth guys who've established themselves as superstars. Does Carlos Gomez count as a superstar? 
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Intruder posted:Does Carlos Gomez count as a superstar? Only if you ignore his stats.
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I guess it depends on your definition of "winning" a trade. Like Sabathia was never going to reup with Cleveland so getting Brantley for him is a win, but if you compare their two careers post-trade it's more of a push Same thing with Randy Johnson. Yes Randy was much better than Garcia and Guillen but he was gone anyway
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Sydin posted:I mean, what was the last trade where a superstar player was moved and the consensus after the fact is that it is the team that moved the superstar for prospects ended up "winning" the trade? Arenado, Goldschmidt, Betts, Diaz, etc etc it's the team that gets the known really good player that always comes out looking better. Even something like the Chapman trade where the Cubs massively overpaid can still be looked at as "yeah Gleyber turned out to be a nice piece but the Cubs got a loving ring out of the deal." Maybe you could make the argument for Soto since SD ended up squandering and then flipping him to somebody else? Generally speaking though no matter how highly they're touted prospects aren't actually worth guys who've established themselves as superstars. depending on how you define "superstar" mccutchen for kyle crick and bryan reynolds back in 2018, or maybe bartolo colon for brandon phillips, grady sizemore, cliff lee and lee stevens in 02 but the fact that I'm having to go back 20 years for a maybe is probably proof of your argument lol
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FlamingLiberal posted:Andrew McCutchen is going back to Pittsburgh for another year I suppose it's the least either side could do considering his foot exploded last year.
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This is James "Innings Eater" Shields erasure.
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i am sorry to my white sox comrades, but the sox trading for shields and then him having just unleash an unholy run on some of the most dogshit pitching performances ever witnessed was so loving funny. e: first month on the south side 
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Big Game James!
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Because I am married to a weeb, we watch Japanese train tourism videos. I say this because it is background for the fact it have observed, in a video shot in Japan, a sign of Shohei Ohtani endorsing a steak restaurant. Could had him hawking Buona Beef. Dang it.
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R.D. Mangles posted:i am sorry to my white sox comrades, but the sox trading for shields and then him having just unleash an unholy run on some of the most dogshit pitching performances ever witnessed was so loving funny. The funniest thing is that the trade was mandated by the Padres owner after he called Shields out on the radio.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVFsq9FQBlc
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I play MLB The Show year round. New stuff ain't even really coming out anymore and I still enjoy hitting homers off idiots who use Nolan Ryan and just pitch fastballs down the middle.
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I'm probably the reason the SDS coffee pot gets a bigger upgrade than the actual game every year
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Sydin posted:LA got: Lol at the time it looked awful and well...they sure saved a few bucks!
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One of the wildest things about the Mookie trade is that people will still defend it and say Mookie was dead set on testing the FA market!
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Inspector_666 posted:One of the wildest things about the Mookie trade is that people will still defend it and say Mookie was dead set on testing the FA market! Never let hindsight get in the way of a bad argument.
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