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Welcome to the Federation Starship SS Buttcrack!
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# ? Dec 19, 2023 00:09 |
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# ? May 27, 2024 16:47 |
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As with insurrection, only watch the early episode Jeremiah Chriton with the director's commetary riffing on it.
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# ? Dec 19, 2023 00:31 |
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There’s a Farscape thread in SFWF. Kind of dead tho
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# ? Dec 19, 2023 00:32 |
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Tunicate posted:As with insurrection, only watch the early episode Jeremiah Chriton with the director's commetary riffing on it. TBH, Farscape is similar to TNG in that if you skip the first 2 thirds of season 1 you lose very little as the show doesn't really find itself until then.
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# ? Dec 19, 2023 00:41 |
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Watch it all. Experience bij
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# ? Dec 19, 2023 02:54 |
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There is enough call backs and character moments that are referenced later that it's worth watching it all. That said, the early episodes can be a little rough in style and plot.
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# ? Dec 19, 2023 03:17 |
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HD DAD posted:Vic Fontaine rules Indeed. Of course, for me, I think this comes down to my dad's side of the family being a bunch of Hoboken Italians.
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# ? Dec 19, 2023 03:43 |
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I do not like Vic Fontaine. I do not like his episodes. Give me more Vulcan baseball shenanigans.
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# ? Dec 19, 2023 03:58 |
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I bet Vic Fontaine is a baseball fan
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# ? Dec 19, 2023 04:22 |
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:I bet Vic Fontaine is a baseball fan He's never bet on a game, but he can introduce you to a bookie.
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# ? Dec 19, 2023 05:13 |
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Speaking of that kind of thing, when are they ever gonna take us back to Sigma Iotia II (aka the mobster planet)?
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# ? Dec 19, 2023 06:07 |
Jimbone Tallshanks posted:Speaking of that kind of thing, when are they ever gonna take us back to Sigma Iotia II (aka the mobster planet)? It seems ripe for Lower Decks though.
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# ? Dec 19, 2023 06:11 |
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They've probably transformed their society into one dedicated to personal fitness and the pursuit of knowledge anyways.
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# ? Dec 19, 2023 06:19 |
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Jimbone Tallshanks posted:Speaking of that kind of thing, when are they ever gonna take us back to Sigma Iotia II (aka the mobster planet)? I heard tie in novels revisit it in TNG era, and they have patterned their entire society off of kirk's enterprise, so they just kind of easily assimilate into the federation.
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# ? Dec 19, 2023 06:31 |
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Tonight's episode of DS9, "Sanctuary," features a refugee crisis. The Skrreeans have just recently been liberated because the species that conquered them were in turn conquered by some group calling itself "the Dominion" (nothing at all ominous about that), and now they're following a religious prophecy that's led them through the Eye of the Universe (the wormhole) to what they hope is the planet Kentanna (which they assume is Bajor). Didn't like how this one ended. After all the help they receive from the Federation and Bajor, the Skrreeans come across as ungrateful bastards just because they're being offered a promising, fertile planet to resettle on instead of being allowed to settle on a planet that can't handle an influx of three million people after having been stripped of nearly all of its resources over the last fifty years by the Cardassians. But the Bajorans also came across as slightly hypocritical to me, given that their religion and faith in the Prophets is one of the cornerstones of their society and is what helped them endure 50 years of occupation... but when it's some other race's religious prophecy? Oh no, we have to look at things realistically all of the sudden, we've run projections that say the outlook's not good, we can't take the risk that your prophecy might not be true. It also feels weird that nobody offered a compromise of having most of the Skrreeans settle on the other planet while a smaller group goes to Bajor to see if maybe they really can use their farming skills to help restore the land and end the famine, and if it doesn't, they can be relocated to the other planet to join the rest of their people.
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# ? Dec 19, 2023 07:23 |
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I mean, there's a difference between "We've kept our religious traditions for centuries and it shapes our identity" and "We decided less than an hour ago that this planet none of us have actually visited is our sacred promised land". And given that the Skreean's only other cultural traits seemed to be 'sexist and rude', I can't blame the Bajorans for not wanting them.
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# ? Dec 19, 2023 09:36 |
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Refugees with a weird religion are sexist and rude. Oooooh, allegory... We wear rags on our heads and our skin flakes off so people consider us dirty. Some writer saw the ferengi and were like, "hold my beer".
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# ? Dec 19, 2023 11:00 |
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Jimbone Tallshanks posted:Speaking of that kind of thing, when are they ever gonna take us back to Sigma Iotia II (aka the mobster planet)? Just like on earth, the gangster planet is now the Jersey Shore planet
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# ? Dec 19, 2023 12:35 |
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Jimbone Tallshanks posted:Speaking of that kind of thing, when are they ever gonna take us back to Sigma Iotia II (aka the mobster planet)? I think the original plan for Trials and Tribbl-actions was to send the DS9 crew there, only to find they’ve now modeled themselves after the TOS crew.
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# ? Dec 19, 2023 13:27 |
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We ended up getting something similar in Prodigy, in the end.
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# ? Dec 19, 2023 13:41 |
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It may show up in Lower Decks eventually.
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# ? Dec 19, 2023 14:59 |
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Angry Salami posted:And given that the Skreean's only other cultural traits seemed to be 'sexist and rude', I can't blame the Bajorans for not wanting them. Absolutely fair, regardless of the legitimacy of religious matters.
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# ? Dec 19, 2023 19:31 |
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Eighties ZomCom posted:It may show up in Lower Decks eventually. Would have been a good Season 1 "The Cerritos specializes in second contact" plot Ransom and Shaxs all in double-breasted suits brushing up on their "ey, oh, youse guys"
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# ? Dec 19, 2023 20:02 |
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HD DAD posted:Vic Fontaine rules He sucks, gently caress weird american love of the 50s and 60s
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# ? Dec 19, 2023 20:02 |
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Taear posted:He sucks, gently caress weird american love of the 50s and 60s Sisko all but turns to the camera and says this at one point
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# ? Dec 19, 2023 20:07 |
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FuturePastNow posted:Sisko all but turns to the camera and says this at one point Yeah he warms up to Vic eventually but his first response to the program when he is shown it was "you know I could only take the back entrance to these places at best during this time period"
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# ? Dec 19, 2023 20:10 |
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Taear posted:He sucks, gently caress weird american love of the 50s and 60s Amazing what happens when a group of Gen Xers and Baby Boomers in their late 20s to early 50s write a TV show in the 90s.
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# ? Dec 19, 2023 20:13 |
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Taear posted:He sucks, gently caress weird american love of the 50s and 60s The mere act of continuing to make Star Trek is an act of American nostalgia for the 60s
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# ? Dec 19, 2023 20:18 |
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Tonight's episode of DS9, "Rivals," was a fun one. Sleezy conman shows up on the station, gets his hand on some weird gaming device that alters probability, uses it to establish a casino to steal Quark's business, then ends up losing everything as his luck takes a turn for the worse. Plus, a fun B plot with O'Brien getting heated over a one-sided rivalry against Bashir in racquetball. I think my favorite part was O'Brien preparing for the charity match Quark set up, with Keiko coming over, tying a headband on him, giving him a kiss and encouraging him to kick Bashir's rear end. Couldn't help but think in that moment, "drat, O'Brien's gotta be the luckiest guy on the station." And wouldn't you know it...
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# ? Dec 20, 2023 04:13 |
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# ? Dec 20, 2023 05:25 |
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Finally saw Seven's heels in the episode "One" when they were filming from less standard angles. Those can't be Starfleet standard issue.
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# ? Dec 20, 2023 05:45 |
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Atlas Hugged posted:Finally saw Seven's heels in the episode "One" when they were filming from less standard angles. Those can't be Starfleet standard issue. There's nothing about Seven's standard outfit that is Starfleet standard issue.
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# ? Dec 20, 2023 05:53 |
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I am impressed Voyager ended without Jeri Ryan trying to murder Rick Berman at any point.
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# ? Dec 20, 2023 08:25 |
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nine-gear crow posted:I am impressed
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# ? Dec 20, 2023 11:43 |
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I mean maybe they all tried and Berman is just insane lucky and just somehow obliviously Mr Magoo'ed his way out of all the entirely justified murder attempts?
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# ? Dec 20, 2023 13:24 |
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dr_rat posted:I mean maybe they all tried and Berman is just insane lucky and just somehow obliviously Mr Magoo'ed his way out of all the entirely justified murder attempts?
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# ? Dec 20, 2023 15:03 |
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Arivia posted:Weirdly enough my watch over the last year and a bit (I’d never seen TNG end to end before) had me appreciating Wesley a lot more. As a gifted kid myself, Wesley annoyed me as a Trek-watching kid, because he was just like me and I was tired of watching kid’s media with smart/special kids showing all the adults up. I watched Trek because it WAS about adults, shut up Wesley! I also like Wesley more now than I used to, and I get kinda annoyed a bit with the 'Shut up Wesley' stuff. One of things I like the most about TNG is that there is rarely any manufactured conflict between the members of the cast (at least when they are all in their normal state of mind/not possessed). Picard largely encourages the crew to speak up and give opinions on whatever problem they are facing, and if someone says 'hey, something weird is happening', they check on it. Sure, Wesley isn't actually crew for most of the show but he is shown to be loving smart repeatedly, so when they don't even bother to listen at all, to me it comes off more as bad writing for the rest of the crew.
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# ? Dec 20, 2023 16:45 |
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"Datalore" is especially lovely writing because the thing Picard is telling Wesley to shut up about is giving a report on the task he explicitly told him to do
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# ? Dec 20, 2023 16:48 |
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Datalore is one of those situations (I'd argue Man of the People is another) where the crew is so loving stupid you wonder how they remember to breathe. I get that Data is an android who is continually learning about humanity and growing in his ability to "act" human, but when he suddenly begins exhibiting signs of stuff he normally doesn't do, that's probably a reason to be concerned, guys! IIRC, Lore twirls his mustache almost from the moment he is brought aboard, and yet no one sees any harm in showing him the ops console or taking him on a tour through sensitive areas of the ship. It's a Star Trek trope but a particularly dumb one.
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# ? Dec 20, 2023 16:53 |
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# ? May 27, 2024 16:47 |
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Everybody love thr shut up Wesley ecene but no one ever remembers that he was the only sane man in that scene
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# ? Dec 20, 2023 16:59 |