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Phy: Jun 27, 2008; Fun Shoe

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# ? Dec 20, 2023 18:37

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# ? May 27, 2024 19:42

MikeJF: Dec 20, 2003

# ? Dec 20, 2023 19:35

Khanstant: Apr 5, 2007

skasion posted:

This is a franchise where the movie where they go to the 80s and save the whales is one of the “good ones”

Yeah, the movies are supposed to be bad, just have fun with em. One off Star Trek movies handed to people would be cool. They're not in an alternate universe, there's no interaction possible with the shows or "canon" it's just a unique take on Star Trek elements to tell a story.

# ? Dec 20, 2023 19:54

Earth Day: Dec 11, 2023; by Fluffdaddy

Memorable Moments!

Exhibit "A" in my Supreme Court case against pretty much everything that Secret Hideout has produced regarding Star Trek would be a lack of truly iconic moments or pieces of dialogue. But I am prepared to be convinced otherwise!

Please share your most potent examples of the Nu-Treks at their finest! No epic space battles (boring), but great scenes and quotes. ("Yum yum" does NOT count.)

# ? Dec 20, 2023 20:41

Arc Light: Sep 26, 2013

dr_rat posted:

Hey he did direct and have a story by credit on this episode of CSI, and I haven't seen it but come on it's CIS it's got to be garbage!

I rest my case on why Tarantino is the worst writer/director of the 21st century, and would be awful at star trek.

The basic pitch of "R-rated Tarantino Trek" sounds absolutely awful, but his episode of CSI is actually a pretty good demonstration that he can work within constraints.

I haven't seen that CSI episode since it aired, but it was absolutely the television equivalent of PG-13, and honestly, iirc it was better than most of CSI in terms of pacing, writing, and especially the soundtrack. 18 years later, and I still remember it introduced me to The Turtles via Outside Chance.

So, tl;dr, there's no reason Tarantino would need to make an R rated Trek, because he's 100% capable of working at the PG/PG-13 rating.

# ? Dec 20, 2023 21:09

Earth Day: Dec 11, 2023; by Fluffdaddy

Bilirubin posted:

Oh great, ANOTHER Soong

# ? Dec 20, 2023 21:50

Pwnstar: Dec 9, 2007; Who wants some waffles?

OGS-Remix posted:

He can complete Roddenberry's vision of having Spock assassinate Kennedy.

Red Dwarf already had Kennedy assassinate Kennedy so it's hard to go on from there.

# ? Dec 20, 2023 22:43

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

I think this is probably the doomsday scenario for the Trek IP

https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1737578064543109352?s=20

# ? Dec 20, 2023 23:01

nine-gear crow: Aug 10, 2013

FlamingLiberal posted:

I think this is probably the doomsday scenario for the Trek IP

https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1737578064543109352?s=20

Coming soon*, Star Trek: The Search For More Tax Write Offs.

*Never released for public consumption.

Seriously though Double :rip:

Prodigy. Zaslav with take a chainsaw to it for a kickback even harder than Paramount already did.

# ? Dec 20, 2023 23:04

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

Prodigy is over at Amazon now though so I doubt that would change. WBD has done a lot of that kind of thing themselves, with licensing certain shows or films to other companies to bring in revenue. That's usually why you see things like Westworld or the one season Watchmen show getting pulled from Max.

# ? Dec 20, 2023 23:13

T.C.: Feb 10, 2004; Believe.

Haha, I said to myself that this was clearly in response to Disney buying everything and them trying to get bigger to compete. Then I looked at the market caps of all three and lol it's not that!

Star Trek just needs someone to start a poorly thought out new channel or media delivery service every once in a while that they need a big name for for. That's where Star Trek really brings its A game. This will give twice as many chances for people to come up with new badly thought out distribution plans!

It's actually funny that at least three star trek projects have started this way (arguably more if you consider the full current slate of shows as one big push for the online service rather than just discovery). Like, why don't you already have shows if you're so excited to start these things? I'm not complaining, but?

# ? Dec 20, 2023 23:16

nine-gear crow: Aug 10, 2013

T.C. posted:

Haha, I said to myself that this was clearly in response to Disney buying everything and them trying to get bigger to compete. Then I looked at the market caps of all three and lol it's not that!

Star Trek just needs someone to start a poorly thought out new channel or media delivery service every once in a while that they need a big name for for. That's where Star Trek really brings its A game. This will give twice as many chances for people to come up with new badly thought out distribution plans!

It's actually funny that at least three star trek projects have started this way (arguably more if you consider the full current slate of shows as one big push for the online service rather than just discovery). Like, why don't you already have shows if you're so excited to start these things? I'm not complaining, but?

So Discovery for P+, Voyager for UPN... What was the third one?

# ? Dec 20, 2023 23:21

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

There was supposed to be a Star Trek Phase 2 for an aborted Paramount Network that was intended to launch in the 1970s

I think only two would apply

# ? Dec 20, 2023 23:23

maybeadracula: Sep 9, 2022; by sebmojo

OGS-Remix posted:

He can complete Roddenberry's vision of having Spock assassinate Kennedy.

Red Dwarf had the best take on this I think

# ? Dec 20, 2023 23:53

John Wick of Dogs: Mar 4, 2017; A real hellraiser

nine-gear crow posted:

So Discovery for P+, Voyager for UPN... What was the third one?

Babylon 5 for TNT

# ? Dec 20, 2023 23:55

pyrotek: May 21, 2004

FlamingLiberal posted:

I think this is probably the doomsday scenario for the Trek IP

https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1737578064543109352?s=20

A good reminder I need to buy all the DVDs and Blu-rays next year

# ? Dec 21, 2023 00:40

HD DAD: Jan 13, 2010; Generic white guy.; Toilet Rascal

pyrotek posted:

A good reminder I need to buy all the DVDs and Blu-rays next year

SNW on UHD looks loving amazing.

# ? Dec 21, 2023 00:41

Boxturret: Oct 3, 2013; Don't ask me about Sonic the Hedgehog diaper fetish

Was the Red Dwarf JFK assassination episode based on Roddenberry's dream of Spock shooting him, or was it just a coincidence?

# ? Dec 21, 2023 00:49

BIG HEADLINE: Jun 13, 2006; "Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

My "The Inner Fight" LDS4E9 shirt finally shipped from Titmouse today. I was getting ready to fire off a "it's one week shy of two months, fellas, what the gently caress" email.

# ? Dec 21, 2023 01:16

T.C.: Feb 10, 2004; Believe.

FlamingLiberal posted:

There was supposed to be a Star Trek Phase 2 for an aborted Paramount Network that was intended to launch in the 1970s

I think only two would apply

I'm counting phase two being rolled over into TMP

# ? Dec 21, 2023 04:51

Taear: Nov 26, 2004; Ask me about the shitty opinions I have about Paradox games!

Earth Day posted:

Memorable Moments!

Exhibit "A" in my Supreme Court case against pretty much everything that Secret Hideout has produced regarding Star Trek would be a lack of truly iconic moments or pieces of dialogue. But I am prepared to be convinced otherwise!

Please share your most potent examples of the Nu-Treks at their finest! No epic space battles (boring), but great scenes and quotes. ("Yum yum" does NOT count.)

Are we talking just the 2009 onwards films or the new series?
Because LDS has loads of moments!

# ? Dec 21, 2023 09:02

John Wick of Dogs: Mar 4, 2017; A real hellraiser

Discovery has a poo poo ton of memorable moments, it's an over the top melodrama most of the time.

For example: The Klingon chancellor decapitates a baby in front of the Senate. It's stupid but also hilarious and memorable as hell

# ? Dec 21, 2023 13:05

PriorMarcus: Oct 17, 2008; ASK ME ABOUT BEING ALLERGIC TO POSITIVITY

John Wick of Dogs posted:

Discovery has a poo poo ton of memorable moments, it's an over the top melodrama most of the time.

For example: The Klingon chancellor decapitates a baby in front of the Senate. It's stupid but also hilarious and memorable as hell

Ironically I don't remember that at all.

# ? Dec 21, 2023 13:50

Arc Light: Sep 26, 2013

"This is the power of math, people!!"

Because even though I can't remember much of any given part of season 2, that bit will stick around forever

# ? Dec 21, 2023 14:08

Eighties ZomCom: Sep 10, 2008

John Wick of Dogs posted:

Discovery has a poo poo ton of memorable moments, it's an over the top melodrama most of the time.

For example: The Klingon chancellor decapitates a baby in front of the Senate. It's stupid but also hilarious and memorable as hell

She didn't though? She threw a baby's head at the Senate, claiming it was her child, to cover up him joining the Time Monks. And I think the baby head was fake too, but the Senate didn't get a good look at it.

# ? Dec 21, 2023 14:19

Ethics_Gradient: May 5, 2015; Common misconception that; that fun is relaxing. If it is, you're not doing it right.

Pwnstar posted:

Farscape is cool because its an isekai where the main characters special power is being too crazy to deal with.

I also love how rather than having all the non human characters centre themselves around the human, he is constantly dismissed and belittled.

# ? Dec 21, 2023 14:46

John Wick of Dogs: Mar 4, 2017; A real hellraiser

Eighties ZomCom posted:

She didn't though? She threw a baby's head at the Senate, claiming it was her child, to cover up him joining the Time Monks. And I think the baby head was fake too, but the Senate didn't get a good look at it.

It was fake but from the in universe audience perspective she just decapitated a baby and they cheered

# ? Dec 21, 2023 14:50

Brawnfire: Jul 13, 2004; 🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
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Ethics_Gradient posted:

I also love how rather than having all the non human characters centre themselves around the human, he is constantly dismissed and belittled.

Congrats, you look like this region of the Galaxy's hated fascist species, but you don't even have their abilities. Or any abilities.

# ? Dec 21, 2023 15:27

MikeJF: Dec 20, 2003

Brawnfire posted:

Congrats, you look like this region of the Galaxy's hated fascist species, but you don't even have their abilities. Or any abilities.

Yeah well at least he can visit a sauna.

# ? Dec 21, 2023 15:30

Brawnfire: Jul 13, 2004; 🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
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As well he should, dude needs to relax

He's going crackers

# ? Dec 21, 2023 15:33

skasion: Feb 13, 2012; Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?

It�s not the species that�s fascist, it�s just the peacekeepers in particular. There�s a whole other empire of Sebaceans who are a completely different kind of rear end in a top hat (guys who turn their royals into statuary)

# ? Dec 21, 2023 15:55

Burning_Monk: Jan 11, 2005; Mad, Bad, and Dangerous to know

Brawnfire posted:

As well he should, dude needs to relax

He's going crackers

_{fine, I'll bite.}

CRACKERS... DON'T... MATTER!

# ? Dec 21, 2023 16:31

Earth Day: Dec 11, 2023; by Fluffdaddy

Taear posted:

Are we talking just the 2009 onwards films or the new series?
Because LDS has loads of moments!

LDS is stacking the deck. Live action only!

# ? Dec 21, 2023 16:40

Eighties ZomCom: Sep 10, 2008

John Wick of Dogs posted:

It was fake but from the in universe audience perspective she just decapitated a baby and they cheered

It's been a while since I watched it but I thought she blamed Voq/Tyler for the baby decapitation and had him "executed".

# ? Dec 21, 2023 16:45

John Wick of Dogs: Mar 4, 2017; A real hellraiser

I thought she was telling everybody she executed both of them to show how hardcore she was

# ? Dec 21, 2023 16:52

TheDeadlyShoe: Feb 14, 2014

Burning_Monk posted:

_{fine, I'll bite.}

CRACKERS... DON'T... MATTER!

i've always wondered if they 100% trashed that rigel puppet after it got crackered up

# ? Dec 21, 2023 19:17

W.T. Fits: Apr 21, 2010; Ready to Poyozo Dance all over your face.

Earth Day posted:

Memorable Moments!

Exhibit "A" in my Supreme Court case against pretty much everything that Secret Hideout has produced regarding Star Trek would be a lack of truly iconic moments or pieces of dialogue. But I am prepared to be convinced otherwise!

Please share your most potent examples of the Nu-Treks at their finest! No epic space battles (boring), but great scenes and quotes. ("Yum yum" does NOT count.)

Oh man, that's gonna be easy, there's so many great moments from Lower Decks-

Earth Day posted:

LDS is stacking the deck. Live action only!

... okay, that narrows it down considerably, but still doable with what little modern Trek I've seen!

SNW season 2, episode 7, "Those Old Scientists," the subplot with Una trying to figure out why Boimler is so nervous around her, only to find out from Mariner that it's because he has a poster of Una pinned up next to his bunk. Near the end of the episode, they clear up the misunderstanding, and reveal that it's a recruiting poster - Una was a major inspiration for Boimler to join Starfleet, and the existence of the poster shows that not only is she eventually accepted, but even held up as a standard for future generations to aspire to follow.

# ? Dec 21, 2023 19:41

xerxus: Apr 24, 2010; Grimey Drawer

Earth Day posted:

Memorable Moments!

Exhibit "A" in my Supreme Court case against pretty much everything that Secret Hideout has produced regarding Star Trek would be a lack of truly iconic moments or pieces of dialogue. But I am prepared to be convinced otherwise!

Please share your most potent examples of the Nu-Treks at their finest! No epic space battles (boring), but great scenes and quotes. ("Yum yum" does NOT count.)

code:


LORCA: You'd take food out of the mouths of the only two men standing between you and death?
MUDD: drat right I would. Because this is all Starfleet has left me. I used to have a life, Captain. A good one. A respectable business. That all got blown up, because of your goddamn war.
LORCA: Starfleet didn't start this war.
MUDD: Of course you did. The moment you decided to boldly go where no one had gone before. What do you think would happen when you bump into someone who didn't want you in their front yard?
TYLER: You're siding with the enemy?
MUDD: I'm not siding with anyone. But I sure as hell understand why the Klingons pushed back. Starfleet arrogance. Have you ever bothered to look out of your spaceships down at the little guys below? If you had, you'd realise that there's a lot more of us down there than there are you up here, and we're sick and tired of getting caught in your crossfire.

I really like this exchange because it's a rare glimpse at a different perspective. Just two good actors stealing the scene.

# ? Dec 21, 2023 19:50

Cojawfee: May 31, 2006; I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

PriorMarcus posted:

Ironically I don't remember that at all.

How could you forget? He cuts the baby's head off and then shouts "I F*CKING LOVE SCIENCE! FOR THE WIN LOL"

# ? Dec 21, 2023 20:37

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# ? May 27, 2024 19:42

HD DAD: Jan 13, 2010; Generic white guy.; Toilet Rascal

Cojawfee posted:

How could you forget? He cuts the baby's head off and then shouts "I F*CKING LOVE SCIENCE! FOR THE WIN LOL"

Tbh I wish the actual scene was this

# ? Dec 21, 2023 21:38

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