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John Wick of Dogs posted:Riker is sketchy on occasion. I think we're meant to conclude scientist wife is delusional due to trauma, and that Riker doesn't have a reason to "lie", but it is entirely possible he's a sex pest. I must have completely surpressed your second example. What episode is that?
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I always read Riker forcing himself on Troi in that memory as representative of the violation-in-progress by the telepath, not a real memory. Riker turns into the telepath character in that scene, even.thotsky posted:I must have completely surpressed your second example. What episode is that? Violations Squiggle fucked around with this message at 17:04 on Dec 21, 2023 |
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Grey Cat posted:So this is jamaharon? "Hey baby wanna cyber" This IS cybersex Risa Home Edition for incel exhibitionists 
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redshirt posted:Worf's greatest moment was fighting to the death over and over in the Dominion prison, with his fight coach Martok. Worf, son of Mogh, House of Martok, slayer of Gowron, Jem'Hadar wrestling camp silver medalist.
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Jimbone Tallshanks posted:Worf, son of Mogh, House of Martok, slayer of Gowron, Jem'Hadar wrestling camp silver medalist. Dumb rear end Gowron had it coming too, like many times over!
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Squiggle posted:I always read Riker forcing himself on Troi in that memory as representative of the violation-in-progress by the telepath, not a real memory. Riker turns into the telepath character in that scene, even.
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TNG Worf is v different than DS9 Worf if only in terms of how much rear end they let him kick Also like the Klingon Weeaboo thing coming to the surface more in DS9
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Monkey Fracas posted:TNG Worf is v different than DS9 Worf if only in terms of how much rear end they let him kick His whole "I must sleep on the Defiant" thing was pathetic. He's a big baby.
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Dec 21, 2023 17:22
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Sleeping rear end cheek to rear end cheek on a rowdy klingon ship? No problem. Sleeping in your own quarters on a space station? Can't be done.
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I still want Worf prosecuted for his crimes on Risa. #JusticeForRisa
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redshirt posted:I still want Worf prosecuted for his crimes on Risa. Honestly that was loving ridiculous. Vacations are for people that don't want to work anymore, better commit terrorism on this expensive weather system. The fact Jadzia could even love someone so anti all expenses paid sex-vacation after that is impossible to believe.
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Is there a cooler weapon than the Ferengi whip?
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Grey Cat posted:Honestly that was loving ridiculous. Agreed 100%. Although maybe that says a lot more about Jadzia than we are willing to accept. Worf did straight up terrorism on Risa, as a Starfleet officer! He should at minimum have been forced out of Starfleet for that.
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If you're going there think of all the stuff Data did. He always had an excuse but he pulled some serious poo poo.
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Big rear end On Fire posted:If you're going there think of all the stuff Data did. He always had an excuse but he pulled some serious poo poo. Give one example equal to Worf intentionally loving up a planet's atmosphere controls cuz he was pissy.
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Squiggle posted:I always read Riker forcing himself on Troi in that memory as representative of the violation-in-progress by the telepath, not a real memory. Riker turns into the telepath character in that scene, even. Given the other people's memories are also real, my take was always that the memory starts out real and then gets warped by the memory stealer guy cause he wants the traumatic feelings. Riker remembers sacrificing an ensign to contain a warp core breach, and then Jev's injection is constantly yelling at him "YOU KILLED HER" and Crusher's memory is of PIcard showing her Jack's corpse and Jev becomes her husband. So yea, I figured they maybe got a bit intimate with the poker chips and riker was talking about missing her, and then when she said no he left cause anything else would be wildly out of character for him.
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Does Riker ever do anything unethical in the entire series?
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punishedkissinger posted:Does Riker ever do anything unethical in the entire series? Depends if you count the other Riker becoming a terrorist.
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punishedkissinger posted:Does Riker ever do anything unethical in the entire series? A Riker
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redshirt posted:Give one example equal to Worf intentionally loving up a planet's atmosphere controls cuz he was pissy.
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Big rear end On Fire posted:I'm not saying Data's actions are worse than Worf's but here goes. Data stabbed Troi, stole a shuttle and abandoned the crew (of the ENT, his post etc), beat up other Starfleet personnel and exposed a Federation spying program (IX). I need to rewatch that Risa episode. I don't really remember it at all. Under the influence of what? You don't really need to watch the Risa episode, it's honestly one of the worst.
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Yea, each of those instances that I can recall Data was either acting under some kind of outside influence or was doing the right thing. Worf was mad that Jadzia wanted to wear a sexxy bathing suit so he did a terrorism.
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Riker is like Mr. Enthusiastic Consent. I bet he even let's the holodeck say no.
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CainFortea posted:Yea, each of those instances that I can recall Data was either acting under some kind of outside influence or was doing the right thing. I'd like to know if anyone died because of Worf's hijinks. It was never stated, but given the global severe storms, it's possible.
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punishedkissinger posted:Does Riker ever do anything unethical in the entire series? Arguably, one thing got retconned as bad after the fact: at one point Riker casually trades some bio-mimetic gel to an alien freighter captain. Later on that stuff was established to be extremely dangerous, and tightly controlled under Federation law.
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CainFortea posted:Yea, each of those instances that I can recall Data was either acting under some kind of outside influence or was doing the right thing.
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Riker initially covers for Pressman during the Pegasus incident, that's pretty unethical
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Cookie Cutter posted:Riker initially covers for Pressman during the Pegasus incident, that's pretty unethical Wasn't he under orders to do so
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Hollismason posted:Wasn't he under orders to do so Yes, but you aren't supposed to follow illegal orders. The first duty of every Starfleet officer is to the truth, whether it's scientific truth or historical truth or personal truth! It is the guiding principle on which Starfleet is based, and if you can't find it within yourself to stand up and tell the truth about what happened, you don't deserve to wear that uniform.
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Riker phasered the poo poo out of some clones of himself The cloning was illegal and unethical but it was already done
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"One William Riker is unique, perhaps even special. But a hundred of him, a thousand of him diminishes me in ways I can't even imagine." I wonder what Tom would have done
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maybeadracula posted:Riker phasered the poo poo out of some clones of himself They weren't viable yet.
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CainFortea posted:They weren't viable yet. They didn't really check how sentient they were before they just started blasting though
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maybeadracula posted:They didn't really check how sentient they were before they just started blasting though They weren't even fully formed yet, they were all jelly and goopy and not responding to outside stimulii
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Just watched the "killing your own clone is still murder!!" DS9 ep
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Let's all admit we've all broken Federation law once or twice.
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dr_rat posted:Yeah going down the road of "why isn't this obviously available tech actually used how it 100% would be if available" is a road the Star Trek writers really don't want to go down. I like to justify in-universe that tech doesn't have 100% penetration, and that the Federation is deeply conservative about general adoption of powerful technologies especially when it comes to personal augmentations or cybernetics. Rutherford is probably a real outlier in that he has an implant and in a more serious show would probably get no small amount of flak for it. Strange New Worlds really emphasizes that the Federation is ball-shrinkingly terrified of any sort of genetic engineering and I would assume that that fear extends to cybernetics as well if not nearly as strongly. Prosthetics that are near-perfect replacements for limbs are ok, but a prosthetic that really boosts your capabilities is gonna get some side-eye.
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Will and Tom Riker go through the transporter with an orchid and end up merged back together. He then gets in a shuttlecraft with Kira and goes warp 10 turning them both into salamanders. Their salamander babies base their culture on a box set of The Sopranos and go on to conquer the galaxy. At what point in the timeline is it most ethical to go back to in order to prevent it all from happening, and how?
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