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mortons stork
Oct 13, 2012

SplitSoul posted:

Denmark signed an agreement with the U.S. to host American troops and military equipment. It cannot be revised for the next decade. It also stipulates that American troops cannot be charged for crimes committed against Danes on Danish soil. Mette Frederiksen is likely the worst PM in this country's history and that's saying something.

i have this idea that the americans have spent the past however many decades getting their paratroopers in the key loci of power and they just do overt banana republic poo poo like this to europe now because this is how they wanna roll

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SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

A Buttery Pastry posted:

1 billion Danes

This is the most horrific turn of phrase I've read since I learned about the term they have for wounded Palestinian kids whose entire families were exterminated.

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!
If the number of Danes grows too large I support nuking for population control tbh.

Palladium
May 8, 2012

Very Good
✔️✔️✔️✔️

Tankbuster posted:

lmao extraterritorial rights. Unequal treaties eh?

at least the dying qing dynasty actually fought the invaders before signing them

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018
Probation
Can't post for 11 hours!

SplitSoul posted:

Denmark signed an agreement with the U.S. to host American troops and military equipment. It cannot be revised for the next decade. It also stipulates that American troops cannot be charged for crimes committed against Danes on Danish soil. Mette Frederiksen is likely the worst PM in this country's history and that's saying something.

Is it specifically limited to American troops, or can any American have a really fun vacation in Denmark now?

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Gripweed posted:

Is it specifically limited to American troops, or can any American have a really fun vacation in Denmark now?

Just the troops for now. The PM said the following verbatim:

"We have no expectation that any outrageous crimes will occur, we're talking about American soldiers."

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!
I'm laughing in Japanese.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Orange Devil posted:

If the number of Danes grows too large I support nuking for population control tbh.

there are more pigs in Denmark than people

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

SplitSoul posted:

Just the troops for now. The PM said the following verbatim:

"We have no expectation that any outrageous crimes will occur, we're talking about American soldiers."

Lol.

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018
Probation
Can't post for 11 hours!

mawarannahr posted:

there are more pigs in Denmark than people

yes we aware Denmark is majority Danish.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

https://twitter.com/vonderleyen/status/1737378025224770012
https://twitter.com/vonderleyen/status/1737377984367993306
EU: Migration Pact agreement will lead to a “surge in suffering” – European Institutions Office

www.amnesty.eu posted:

Reforms agreed today by the EU on the Pact on Migration and Asylum will set European asylum law back for decades to come and lead to greater human suffering, said Amnesty International.

Today’s political agreement on a set of legislative proposals, will reform EU migration and asylum policy through a set of regulations governing how states respond to people arriving in Europe. The deal reached today by the European Commission, Council of the EU, and European Parliament will diminish the rights of people on the move.

quote:


This agreement will set back European asylum law for decades to come. Its likely outcome is a surge in suffering on every step of a person’s journey to seek asylum in the EU.
Eve Geddie, Director of Amnesty International’s European Institutions Office

“This agreement will set back European asylum law for decades to come. Its likely outcome is a surge in suffering on every step of a person’s journey to seek asylum in the EU. From the way they are treated by countries outside the EU, their access to asylum and legal support at Europe’s border, to their reception within the EU, this agreement is designed to make it harder for people to access safety,” said Eve Geddie, Director of Amnesty International’s European Institutions Office.

“The Pact will almost certainly cause more people to be put into de facto detention at EU borders, including families with children and people in vulnerable situations. There will be reduced safeguards for people seeking asylum in the EU, with more people channelled through substandard border asylum procedures, rather than receiving a fair and full assessment of their asylum claims.”

“The Migration Pact also falls short of concretely supporting states where people first arrive in Europe including Italy, Spain or Greece. Instead of prioritising solidarity through relocations and strengthening protection systems, states will be able to simply pay to strengthen external borders, or fund countries outside the EU to prevent people from reaching Europe.”

The agreement reached today also allows countries to opt out of a broad range of EU asylum rules in times of increased arrivals and in case of so-called ‘instrumentalisation’ of migrants or ‘force majeure’. These exemptions risk, in practice, breaching international obligations under refugee and international human rights law. These undermine a common, humane response to people in need of protection, place people at risk of severe human rights violations, and risk normalising disproportionate emergency measures at European borders, setting a dangerous precedent for the right to asylum globally.

At the same time, this agreement reinforces the EU’s dependence on states beyond its borders to manage migration, building on recent deals with Albania, Libya, Tunisia, and Türkiye. Rather than investing in dignified reception within the EU and expanding safe and regular pathways to allow people to reach protection in Europe without relying on dangerous journeys, this amounts to a further step towards externalising border control and evading Europe’s refugee protection responsibilities.

quote:


“Amnesty International has long called on EU institutions and member states to put human rights at the centre of negotiations on EU asylum reforms. However, after years of complex negotiations, the EU now risks sleepwalking into a system in even greater need of reform than the current one.”
Eve Geddie, Director of Amnesty International’s European Institutions Office

“Amnesty International has long called on EU institutions and member states to put human rights at the centre of negotiations on EU asylum reforms. However, after years of complex negotiations, the EU now risks sleepwalking into a system in even greater need of reform than the current one.”

“The Pact won’t solve the pressing problems facing asylum systems in the EU, including underinvestment in asylum and reception systems, unlawful and often violent pushbacks, policies that deny people the right to asylum, and impunity at EU borders. Without renewed commitment to enforcing EU law and ensuring accountability for pushbacks and other violations, the Pact will do nothing to improve protections for asylum seekers in Europe – or improve Europe’s common response to migration. We continue to call on the EU to address these well-documented violations and take steps to ensure a human rights compliant, sustainable, and well-resourced response to people arriving at Europe’s borders.”

Background

Today, the European Parliament and the Council of the EU reached a political agreement on several key files of the New Pact on Migration and Asylum, including the Asylum Procedures Regulation (APR), Asylum and Migration Management Regulation (AMMR), Screening Regulation, the Crisis and Force Majeure Regulation, and the Eurodac Regulation.

However, talks will continue at a technical level up until February 2024, with a formal adoption expected before the European Parliament elections in June 2024.

Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007



More👏color👏revolutions👏

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Lord of Pie posted:

More👏color👏revolutions👏

its a shame farmers are so racist cause the whole french spewing manure on public buildings thing is my jam

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

Tankbuster posted:

lmao extraterritorial rights. Unequal treaties eh?

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang




velkommen til uligeværdige traktater, kælling *tar ladegreb*

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

SplitSoul posted:

Denmark signed an agreement with the U.S. to host American troops and military equipment. It cannot be revised for the next decade. It also stipulates that American troops cannot be charged for crimes committed against Danes on Danish soil. Mette Frederiksen is likely the worst PM in this country's history and that's saying something.

going to become a troop and beat up zodium irl while saying the navy seal copypasta

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Somebody shot up a university in Prague, at least 15 dead. Why would Putin and Hamas do this?!

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

44% increase :thumbsup:
744 people deported from Germany to Turkey in first 10 months of 2023

www.turkishminute.com posted:

The number of deportations from Germany to Turkey has risen, marking a substantial increase from 515 in 2022 to 744 between January and October 2023, the Neuen Osnabrücker Zeitung, a German regional daily, reported on Thursday.

According to the newspaper, which cites an answer from the Federal Ministry of the Interior to a question from Clara Buenger, a member of the Bundestag for the Die Linke opposition party, 13,512 people were deported from Germany in the first 10 months of 2023, a significant increase compared to the 12,945 deportations last year.

There have been fewer deportations in recent years, Neuen Osnabrücker Zeitung said, mainly due to the coronavirus pandemic. in 2021, 11,982 people were deported, compared to 10,800 in 2020.

The pre-pandemic level has still not been reached again, the daily said, adding that 22,097 people were deported in 2019.

The main destination countries so far this year have been Austria, Georgia, North Macedonia, Moldova and Albania, according to the daily.

It was also pointed out that while 515 people were deported to Turkey in 2022, the figure rose to 744 in the first 10 months of this year. There were only 361 deportations in 2021.

Criticizing the upward trend, Bünger said it means more and more people are being forced back against their will to countries where they are threatened with war, arbitrary detention, torture, extreme poverty or a lack of prospects.

She added that it would be much better to open up a path to a permanent right of residence for those people.

Bünger called the increase in deportations to Turkey particularly worrying, underlining that left-wing and pro-Kurdish opposition members in Turkey were being imprisoned en masse for the sole reason that they had campaigned for democracy and the right to self-determination.

“It is unacceptable that German authorities are deporting refugees from Turkey directly into the hands of their persecutors. The cronyism with the regime of [President Recep Tayyip] Erdoğan must end,” she added.

In late November, the Deutsche Welle Turkish service reported that the number of Turkish citizens attempting to enter Germany without a valid residence or travel document had increased significantly. The figures rose from 2,077 in 2019 to 9,094 last year, representing a 338 percent increase.

According to the information provided by the police, a total of 12,321 Turkish citizens entered Germany illegally between January and September 2023, and they anticipate this figure to reach 20,000 by the end of the year, suggesting that the number will increase tenfold compared to 2019.

Thousands of people had to flee Turkey in the aftermath of a coup attempt in July 2016, following which Turkey’s ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP) launched a widespread crackdown on non-loyalist citizens under the pretext of an anti-coup fight. These people, some of whom had to flee the country illegally by way of the Aegean Sea or Evros River land border because their passports had been canceled under state of emergency measures taken by the government, applied for asylum in Europe and other countries.

In addition to these people, many others are trying to move abroad, mostly to Europe, the United States and Canada, for better life and career opportunities.

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008


Will it be enough for the christian democrats to hold off AFD?

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
lol is this for real?

quote:

Also, any "agitation against supposed 'imperialism' and 'militarism" and any "rejection of nation states and the European Union" should be put on the index of banned organisations. The Administrative Court even declared it unconstitutional to "denigrate" the Bundeswehr (Armed Forces) and the secret service "as undemocratic and directed against the population."

https://twitter.com/2persian2darius/status/1737981909311857134?t=JTGLU_fD010jenZGq9qKsg&s=19

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/07/12/ymxu-j12.html


quote:

The SGP is appealing to the Supreme Court after the Berlin Administrative Court ruled that the SGP’s surveillance by the Secret Service is appropriate, because, it claimed, left-wing criticism of capitalism is unconstitutional in Germany.

crepeface has issued a correction as of 07:20 on Dec 23, 2023

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

lol that Twitter added a note from weird sex web site

the SGP is a trot party with no influence

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy
insanely funny that this is happening in germany again lmao

first as tragedy then as farce

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Truga posted:

insanely funny that this is happening in germany again lmao

first as tragedy then as farce

What do you mean again? That's always been the way of it. I remember ten-ish years ago when one of the state level secret police chiefs said very proudly that they survail the left party because they are anti constitutional. Also, remember that the Communist party is still the only party Germany ever banned.

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy
i thought they also banned the nazi party

webcams for christ
Nov 2, 2005

German parliament is full of Nazi parties though??

Jon Pod Van Damm
Apr 6, 2009

THE POSSESSION OF WEALTH IS IN AND OF ITSELF A SIGN OF POOR VIRTUE. AS SUCH:
1 NEVER TRUST ANY RICH PERSON.
2 NEVER HIRE ANY RICH PERSON.
BY RULE 1, IT IS APPROPRIATE TO PRESUME THAT ALL DEGREES AND CREDENTIALS HELD BY A WEALTHY PERSON ARE FRAUDULENT. THIS JUSTIFIES RULE 2--RULE 1 NEEDS NO JUSTIFIC



Joseph Stalin posted:

Some people think that the bourgeoisie adopted "pacifism" and "democracy" not because it was compelled to do so, but voluntarily, of its own free choice, so to speak. And it is assumed that, having defeated the working class in decisive battles, the bourgeoisie felt that it was the victor and could now afford to adopt "democracy." In other words, while the decisive battles were in progress, the bourgeoisie needed a fighting organisation, needed fascism; but now that the proletariat is defeated, the bourgeoisie no longer needs fascism and can afford to use "democracy" instead, as a better method of consolidating its victory. Hence, the conclusion is drawn that the rule of the bourgeoisie has become consolidated, that the "era of pacifism" will be a prolonged one, and that the revolution in Europe has been pigeonholed.

This assumption is absolutely wrong.

Firstly, it is not true that fascism is only the fighting organisation of the bourgeoisie. Fascism is not only a military-technical category. Fascism is the bourgeoisie's fighting organisation that relies on the active support of Social-Democracy. Social-Democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism. There is no ground for assuming that the fighting organisation of the bourgeoisie can achieve decisive successes in battles, or in governing the country, without the active support of Social-Democracy. There is just as little ground for thinking that Social-Democracy can achieve decisive successes in battles, or in governing the country, without the active support of the fighting organisation of the bourgeoisie. These organisations do not negate, but supplement each other. They are not antipodes, they are twins. Fascism is an informal political bloc of these two chief organisations; a bloc, which arose in the circumstances of the post-war crisis of imperialism, and which is intended for combating the proletarian revolution. The bourgeoisie cannot retain power without such a bloc. It would therefore be a mistake to think that "pacifism" signifies the liquidation of fascism. In the present situation, "pacifism" is the strengthening of fascism with its moderate, Social-Democratic wing pushed into the forefront.

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy
i meant specifically the nsdap party, but fair

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011
you can openly post "Muslims are inherently violent and incompatible with living in western societies" in the rules based decorum version of this thread now. I got hit with a probe for calling it out lol

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

mila kunis posted:

you can openly post "Muslims are inherently violent and incompatible with living in western societies" in the rules based decorum version of this thread now. I got hit with a probe for calling it out lol
you have to respect german culture

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

mila kunis posted:

you can openly post "Muslims are inherently violent and incompatible with living in western societies" in the rules based decorum version of this thread now. I got hit with a probe for calling it out lol
I honestly didn't know what to say. I was surprised to see people post so openly like that.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

A Buttery Pastry posted:

you have to respect german culture

*unsafeties Browning*

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

mawarannahr posted:

I honestly didn't know what to say. I was surprised to see people post so openly like that.
the only activity the D&D eurothread really gets is when a new racist german guy starts posting their unfiltered opinions. the last time the thread was this active, GaussianCopula was posting about how awesome it was that refugees were drowning in the med, which finally ended his posting career after a long tenure as the resident racist.

Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005

A Buttery Pastry posted:

the only activity the D&D eurothread really gets is when a new racist german guy starts posting their unfiltered opinions. the last time the thread was this active, GaussianCopula was posting about how awesome it was that refugees were drowning in the med, which finally ended his posting career after a long tenure as the resident racist.

Has the Finnish Neo Nazi guy returned? :thunk:

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


A Buttery Pastry posted:

the only activity the D&D eurothread really gets is when a new racist german guy starts posting their unfiltered opinions. the last time the thread was this active, GaussianCopula was posting about how awesome it was that refugees were drowning in the med, which finally ended his posting career after a long tenure as the resident racist.

germany knows about its racism problem. the racism thread is an important step

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

Horseshoe theory posted:

Has the Finnish Neo Nazi guy returned? :thunk:
no, finns were banned from the thread for not being european

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Wonder if he has a parachute called Ehre.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



SplitSoul posted:

*unsafeties Browning*

*Brauning

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

mila kunis posted:

you can openly post "Muslims are inherently violent and incompatible with living in western societies" in the rules based decorum version of this thread now. I got hit with a probe for calling it out lol

by a guy whose username is Blut, no less
we need another guy called Boden who will reply to every blut post with "I agree!"

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011

mawarannahr posted:

I honestly didn't know what to say. I was surprised to see people post so openly like that.

anyone posting FBI crime statistics and inferring "blacks are inherently more violent and a threat to our society" would be gone within seconds in d&d. how the gently caress is hat poo poo acceptable

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Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy
d&d eurothread has always been like that

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