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Those are all very different games and 7 remake won’t be as interesting for you if you haven’t played the original since it’s not really a remake and you won’t fully appreciate the gimmick. I think you’d enjoy XV the most if 14 is your only point of reference, since it’s not turn based and the world is nice and open.
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Oh man asking which FF game to play first is like asking which dark souls is the best.
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MarcusSA posted:Oh man asking which FF game to play first is like asking which dark souls is the best. the answer to which one to play first is always ds1r though. there's no other answer
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Dec 22, 2023 00:01
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Tell people to start with DS2 for the comedy option.
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Mr Newsman posted:Looking to play a Final Fantasy game - never played the franchise other than maxing out a job in the FF14 trial. This was pretty fun but I don't have time these days to do an MMO at the level I'd get into it at. My favorites are: 5 1 6 10 9 7 12 4 15 2 3 I've never played 8, 13, or 16, and 11/14 are MMOs and completely different. MarcusSA posted:Oh man asking which FF game to play first is like asking which dark souls is the best. Best is one thing, but I really do think people should try DS1 first, because the world is awesome, but the gameplay of each subsequent game has gotten harder, so going back to it later might be kind of boring.
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FFVIIR runs pretty well on Deck, at least 40fps during action scenes, the only noticeable graphical downgrade is slightly crunchy hair. It also has possibly the finest combat system I've ever played, it's real good. FFXV bears the scars of a troubled development process, but I love it all the same and it is indeed pretty chill. The combat really clicked for me, dancing around in the air hitting everything was just incredibly fun. E: there's also a crossover with XIV that they added, it's pretty cute.
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Mr Newsman posted:Looking to play a Final Fantasy game - never played the franchise other than maxing out a job in the FF14 trial. This was pretty fun but I don't have time these days to do an MMO at the level I'd get into it at. for 9/12-16, you're more or less fine playing them as-is. ff15 has a pretty terrible/confusing story, but it's probably going to the most straightforward step from ff14. the music's fantastic, and it's actually mainly by yoko shimomura, not uematsu or soken. after that, i'd probably do 10, whether remastered or not, and then you can even do ff7 remake or 1-9 emulated ff6 is probably a fun way to get into emulation, and it's one of the best games together with ff7. some games have issues with wonky english translations (tactics), but ff6 is fairly straightforward there have been rumours about some proper remakes of ff9 and final fantasy tactics, but those rumours are so old who's to say if they're real right now tl;dr: 14 -> 15 or 10 (remastered/emulated) -> ff7remake -> 6/7/9 (emulated) depending on which strikes your fancy https://twitter.com/CRTpixels/status/1461386650039164932 https://twitter.com/CRTpixels/status/1485672863193612293 https://twitter.com/ruuupu1/status/1356205335174778881 kliras fucked around with this message at 00:21 on Dec 22, 2023 |
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Astilbra is super great on the OLED deck because the colors really pop.
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I got stuck somewhere in Astlibra in the first cave and I couldn’t figure out where to go so now I’m playing Sandrock. True story.
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Subjunctive posted:I got stuck somewhere in Astlibra in the first cave and I couldn’t figure out where to go so now I’m playing Sandrock. True story. Ok not gonna lie this happened to me as well. You have to go back and talk to the first girl in town and when she asks if you are looking for the scale you have to say no lol. I said yes like 5 times and couldn’t figure out wtf I was supposed to do.
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In my absolutely subjective opinion, the GBA versions of FF1, 2, 4, 5, and 6 are the best versions. They combine the best version of the graphics with additional content that is separate from the story but still fun. And for FF1 it removes the archaic Vancian magic system in favor of MP like literally every other game in the series.
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MarcusSA posted:Ok not gonna lie this happened to me as well. People just figure that out?!? Thank you.
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Subjunctive posted:People just figure that out?!?
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MarcusSA posted:Oh man asking which FF game to play first is like asking which dark souls is the best. I wondered if it was gonna rile the thread up at all. Thanks for the input everyone. Will probably just start with 15 and see how it goes. Chill is good.
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I just can't believe there's so many. Do these guys not know the definition of "final"
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What’s the deal with all these fantasies
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History Comes Inside! posted:Those are all very different games and 7 remake won’t be as interesting for you if you haven’t played the original since it’s not really a remake and you won’t fully appreciate the gimmick. Sorry for the double post but curious what about the gimmick makes it a less interesting option? Does the game not work as a standalone option even if it's not a true 7 remake? I'm only asking since I'm coming in totally blind. Not sure if this is like playing red Dead redemption 2 without playing 1 or if it's like popping in to some games DLC without playing the base. Probably won't bother with emulating in the series if that changes anything. Edit: can also find the general final fantasy thread if this is off topic Mr Newsman fucked around with this message at 01:03 on Dec 22, 2023 |
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Mr Newsman posted:Sorry for the double post but curious what about the gimmick makes it a less interesting option? Does the game not work as a standalone option even if it's not a true 7 remake? E: This is probably a pretty big spoiler for FF7R My understanding is that the story changes in several key ways from the original, and the game seems to acknowledge that these are changes, implying that the characters are defying their fate.
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FF7R almost completely follows the plot of FF7 but (minor spoiler)the parts where it deviates from the original game's plot are themselves an aspect of the remake's plot. This means if you played FF7 and know the original plot like "oh this guy dies here" you won't be as confused about what's going on. You can still play the remake without being totally confused, it's just an enhanced experience. Having never played FF7, maybe read the wikipedia plot summary of FF7 before FF7R-- it's really not as necessary as you'd think to be able to play FF7R, it's very welcoming to ignorant folks and is a really fun game. jokes fucked around with this message at 01:05 on Dec 22, 2023 |
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Late to the party, but I use Warpinator on the Deck and Winpirnator on my Windows PC to sync files. Doesn't do autosyncing but lets you control what gets moved and where it goes more than Syncthing. Its also much faster than FTPS or SCP over SSH too.
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Mr Newsman posted:Sorry for the double post but curious what about the gimmick makes it a less interesting option? Does the game not work as a standalone option even if it's not a true 7 remake? it works fine there's just a new thing with fate ghosts that works fine in the story but also is kind of there to add some uncertainty in what's going to happen for people who did play 7 (original). if you didn't, you won't know or appreciate the differences but it's hard to say you're losing out on anything super important tbh for 1-6 the pixel remasters are perfectly good versions with a bunch of rough edges filed off of 1-3. they don't have bonus content from the gba or other re-releases but on the other hand you're unlikely to bother with the bonus dungeons so i wouldn't consider it a loss (and imo the bonus content wasn't good in the first place, but some people do love it) 7-8 are jury-rigged patched up versions of a 25 year old codebase where the original source code was lost 9 is a unity rewrite of the whole engine presumably 10 and 12 are actual ports that are semi-modern though nothing's getting 10 rid of its dependence on av sync in cutscenes
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jokes posted:Having never played FF7, maybe read the wikipedia plot summary of FF7 before FF7R-- it's really not as necessary as you'd think to be able to play FF7R, it's very welcoming to ignorant folks and is a really fun game. Brilliant - both of those posts make sense. Just gonna start with 15 I think since it's heavily discounted but good to know.
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Mr Newsman posted:Sorry for the double post but curious what about the gimmick makes it a less interesting option? Does the game not work as a standalone option even if it's not a true 7 remake? FF thread is probably better for details but you can play FF7R with no knowledge of original FF7 and be fine. That's how I did it and while there are some twists that you appreciate more by knowing the original story you won't be totally lost if it's your first encounter with Cloud and company.
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I'm the guy who absolutely loved FF1 and was super happy with the, what, 50-level bonus Wind dungeon? Earth was like 10 levels? Then they went up from there for Fire, Water, and Wind. Beating Death Machine/Omega and Shinryu after like a dozen attempts was super satisfying.
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I never played the original and enjoyed the hell out of FF7R. It’s just a goodass game.
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You should play 7 up to Wall Market so you can fully appreciate how much more involved they made the Cloud cross dressing subplot.
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I really really really wanted to like FF7R more than I did, but the constant interruptions in gameplay and the braindead companion AI ("The boss is preparing for an obvious massive attack that'll kill anyone it hits...let's get a closer look!") meant I just couldn't finish it. I should just go back and do it, I was only a few chapters away from the end. Sounds like part 2 at least hopefully fixes the problem of stopping the gameplay every 5 min to climb a ladder or go through a tight passage.
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Rosalind posted:Any recommendations for games like Vampire Survivors that are good mindless games that are on sale right now? I'd love one with slightly more RPG elements if such a thing exists. Check out Death Must Die. They took the VampSurv formula and mashed it with Hades with a bit of Diablo and I think it's amazing. https://store.steampowered.com/app/2334730/Death_Must_Die/
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kliras posted:
Tactics had a remaster and retranslation on the PSP. It's much better than the original, though there's a slowdown bug for some animations that you'll need to find a patch for.
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History Comes Inside! posted:What’s the deal with all these fantasies Final my rear end! They keep loving making them
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wanted to say that Unsighted is half off on Steam rn and it is a very cool top down Zelda/metroidvania-like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3_y7qqfWTI here is a trailer of it looking cool. the action is very satisfying, featuring parries and active reloading
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Rosalind posted:Any recommendations for games like Vampire Survivors that are good mindless games that are on sale right now? I'd love one with slightly more RPG elements if such a thing exists. Brotato is a lot fun and it’s under $5. Lots of weapons and items/stat modifiers, gives you a feeling of more control than VS.
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I threw down the couple bucks for brotato just now. It looks pretty fun
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History Comes Inside! posted:I will never use emulationstation when steam ROM manager adds them to collections grouped by system anyway, it’s just an extra layer of abstraction nobody needs Would you mind trying to get a Famicom Disk System game to show up for you? Nothing I did ever worked, and so I switched to emulation station instead - but like you i'd prefer to have everything in the actual Steam menu
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Nitrousoxide posted:Accurate. It's a story about a bunch of bros going for a cross-country drive in their tricked out car and the hijinks they get to on the way. I see this opinion a lot, but I don't think it's an accurate description of FF15. I think one of the things FF15 does best is that it has this strong foreboding/melancholy feeling accompanying its whole "journey." As you drive around and camp and stuff there's this powerful "calm before the storm" feeling (that ends up being justified). Honestly, I don't think there's a lot of "light-hearted road-trip" stuff happening during the game's story? I'm struggling to think of much that could really be called "hijinks," outside of "your friends telling jokes sometimes." The main plot is mostly bad stuff happening with Noctis taking some time to spend time with his friends amidst it all. So there's strong themes of comradery, but the story itself isn't light-hearted at all. Hell, the game literally begins with a giant tragedy! It's only truly light-hearted for the first, like, 30-60 minutes. All of this is why I like FF15 a lot, though. I think it excels at "vibes" and does a great job of leaving a big impact on the player. edit: So I guess my main issue with the "FF15 is about friends going on a road trip" opinions is that they really sell the game short and give the misleading impression that it's some sort of slice-of-life story. If all I knew about the game was those descriptions, I probably wouldn't have been interested in playing it (since I usually don't get that into slice-of-life stuff). My more debatable opinion is that I also think FF15's core plot is remarkably good and coherent for an FF game. The main problem is that the game itself isn't great at communicating information about its plot/setting. It's a situation where someone would benefit a lot from viewing side media (like those anime shorts + the silly CGI movie). That's a significant flaw of the game, but if someone does do those things it's actually a very well thought-out setting and plot. I wish the game itself did a better job with that stuff, because it's really the main thing holding its plot back. Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 04:45 on Dec 22, 2023 |
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MarcusSA posted:Oh man asking which FF game to play first is like asking which dark souls is the best. Lies of P.
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This is reminding me I need to get back to FF6, I played up until The Big Thing but haven't continued much past that.
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grieving for Gandalf posted:wanted to say that Unsighted is half off on Steam rn and it is a very cool top down Zelda/metroidvania-like Big hyper light drifter vibes from the art, to me. I never finished that one.
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Isn’t ff15 the one where you have to go deep Into a bunch of outside media like movies to get the plot?
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No, there’s a prequel movie that explains how you get to the start but it doesn’t really matter to the main plot. But any time a games company puts out supplemental media people love acting like it’s all critical information and not just a cool extra.
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