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Linus: Adblock is stealing. Also Linus: 
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Both are true I bet
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Dec 21, 2023 20:35
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down1nit posted:Both are true I bet
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Dec 21, 2023 20:42
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He drops things too
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Dec 21, 2023 20:45
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gently caress linus
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Dec 21, 2023 20:48
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beep by grandpa posted:gently caress linus I will not.
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Dec 21, 2023 20:55
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Mr.Radar posted:Linus: Adblock is stealing. So is this one of those suspiciously cheap android TV boxes that comes pre-loaded with every piece of malware and spyware that they could get their hands on?
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Dec 21, 2023 21:21
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onn. is Walmart's house brand so I won't say no but it at least is not directly sourced from Temu
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Cyrano4747 posted:So is this one of those suspiciously cheap android TV boxes that comes pre-loaded with every piece of malware and spyware that they could get their hands on? The malware-infested boxes are just running a skinned version of the phone version of Android. The ONN box is a certified Android TV/Google TV device running the proper Android TV OS so it's clean, and people also checked it for the malware stuff found on the generic boxes and it didn't have any of that. https://www.android.com/certified/partners/ They're cheap mostly because low specs and being a Walmart house brand.
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Dec 21, 2023 22:05
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FULLY LOADED
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Buy the Onn, get STube and enjoy no ads and sponsorblock. Thank the linus
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Dec 21, 2023 22:32
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Mr.Radar posted:Linus: Adblock is stealing. He never said "don't use an adblock", he just wants people to be honest with themselves and admit that using adblock on an ad supported free service is fundamentally piracy. He's literally never been militantly anti-piracy like everyone seems to paint him as. He's also just correct on his adblock take, as someone who uses adblock. It's piracy and I'm fine with that.
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Dec 22, 2023 01:59
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Adblock is piracy in the same way that piracy is theft
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BurritoJustice posted:He never said "don't use an adblock", he just wants people to be honest with themselves and admit that using adblock on an ad supported free service is fundamentally piracy. He's literally never been militantly anti-piracy like everyone seems to paint him as. Oh hell na
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Dec 22, 2023 02:00
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I would download a car if I could.
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Dec 22, 2023 02:02
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BurritoJustice posted:He's also just correct on his adblock take, as someone who uses adblock. It's piracy and I'm fine with that. it's not piracy lmao. piracy is copyright infringement and is illegal. it's not illegal to block ads (yet) it's piracy when you change the channel during a commercial! AHHH
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Dec 22, 2023 02:03
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Theft of services
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Dec 22, 2023 02:04
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Obviously we should all just be good consumers and absorb content like we absorb the pink homogeneous slime that is obviously the optimal sustenance as it contains all the macro- and micro-nutrients that the average human needs.
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Dec 22, 2023 02:12
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Inept posted:it's piracy when you change the channel during a commercial! AHHH Podcasters do make this exact argument
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I mean, I think you should be honest with yourself - if you are watching ad-supported content and running an adblocker, you are fundamentally leeching off of the system. I place myself squarely within this category and don't mind it a bit because I want the ad-supported ecosystem to die and be replaced by something better, but I can understand a YouTube creator calling out this same basic fact and saying they don't like adblockers from a position of their own rational self-interest. It's a little bit different for YouTube vs. podcasts as far as I understand it because YouTube has more direct metrics on how many ads actually reached a user browser, and therefore it is possible for a significant share of users running adblockers to directly cause a proportional share in payout reduction. With podcasts I would assume your payments are based on a combination of referrals and subscriber/listener count, as there's no direct way for the advertisers to know how many users listen to a given ad. Eletriarnation fucked around with this message at 02:24 on Dec 22, 2023 |
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:Obviously we should all just be good consumers and absorb content like we absorb the pink homogeneous slime that is obviously the optimal sustenance as it contains all the macro- and micro-nutrients that the average human needs. Insane strawman, I literally said I use adblock and like it. I just don't see the moral difference between adblock and piracy (I know there is a legal difference). YouTube is only free to watch because of ads, if everyone installed an adblocker tomorrow then YouTube would either cease to exist or would move to being an entirely paid service. You're not even just sticking it to the man by stealing from Google, YouTube just doesn't pay the creator you're watching when you're an adblock view. Fundamentally, you're watching content that has a price to entry and not paying the price. You're even directly costing the provider money, in the cost of streaming it to you, in a way that traditional piracy obviously doesn't.
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Dec 22, 2023 02:29
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Not signing up for BlueChew using your favorite channel's referall code is piracy.
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Dec 22, 2023 02:33
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One time I cut a tag off a mattress and then I changed my identity so the law would never catch me.
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Inept posted:it's piracy when you change the channel during a commercial! AHHH If television companies paid each program per view, then had precise tracking that didn't pay the program if a user changed channel in the ad break, I'm sure it would be more of an issue for the actors in your favourite television show. I'm sure the television companies would loving love that, but right now it's a very different scheme. You cannot seriously expect full time YouTubers, funded from ad revenue, to not give a poo poo about adblock.
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Dec 22, 2023 02:43
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:I would download a car if I could. Man I bought a 3d printer specifically so I could download poo poo and not pay for it.
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:Obviously we should all just be good consumers and absorb content like we absorb the pink homogeneous slime that is obviously the optimal sustenance as it contains all the macro- and micro-nutrients that the average human needs. Are... are you referencing The Stuff?
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BurritoJustice posted:You cannot seriously expect full time YouTubers, funded from ad revenue, to not give a poo poo about adblock. Most full time youtubers are doing patreons and merchandising because ad revenue is poo poo because youtube is a monopoly
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Dec 22, 2023 02:57
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That's why you get rid of ads and just do product placement.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAExoSozc2c Agreed
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Using an ad blocker means the creator isn't making money off of you from youtube monetization, but it doesn't mean they're not making off of you period.
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If YouTubers wanted money maybe they should have gotten a real job 
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Harminoff posted:That's why you get rid of ads and just do product placement. billion dollar idea: use AI to insert product placement into existing videos you hit a mid-roll and steve nexus is suddenly holding a delicious coca cola in an 8 fingered hand
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Cathode Ray Dude's been having a poo poo time of it it seems: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9hvrwEBvIE Glad he's doing better, but still oof at all these things going wrong at once.
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Branch Nvidian posted:Cathode Ray Dude's been having a poo poo time of it it seems: came here to post this
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30K for a partial sewer line replacement seems like it's at least double what it should be. I hope he didn't get fleeced, but we'll never know.
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Branch Nvidian posted:Cathode Ray Dude's been having a poo poo time of it it seems: Just want to add, he is correct about the sewer pipe, we have an 90 year clay one that we have been told is in good condition but also that it could randomly fail and cost us like $20k to replace. Fortunately we have the money, but we lived in a gentrified neighborhood where basically you are either poor or upper-middle class and it's the kind of thing people lose their houses over. SpartanIvy posted:30K for a partial sewer line replacement seems like it's at least double what it should be. I hope he didn't get fleeced, but we'll never know. Nope, I mean, it depends on a lot of factors, but we have $20k budgeted in our minds knowing at worse we would have to pay to repair an alley and not a street. Three Olives fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Dec 22, 2023 |
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“At least double what it should be” describes basically every home repair.
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Blue Moonlight posted:“At least double what it should be” describes basically every home repair. Also, when you suddenly you literarily can't poo poo in your own house until major repairs are done, turns out contractors have a ton of leverage over you and your decision making process and everyone loves contractors.
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Pigma_Micron posted:Are... are you referencing The Stuff?
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Inept posted:Most full time youtubers are doing patreons and merchandising because ad revenue is poo poo because youtube is a monopoly Yup, plus quite a few have different sponsorships so I suspect ads really don't bring much revenue for the creator, more for the platform than anything. YT, like any other large business, is using stupid manipulation tactics ("YoU'rE HuRtInG CrEaToRs") & they're failing because people see through the bullshit.
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